49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread | Page 5209

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:11 PM

SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We are in a complete rebuild situation right now after 8 freaking years! Get real.

Even if that were true, which it certainly isn't, why would that change my point? Our staff has already successfully rebuilt a roster… they seem like good candidates to be successful again.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:13 PM

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SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We are in a complete rebuild situation right now after 8 freaking years! Get real.

Even if that were true, which it certainly isn't, why would that change my point? Our staff has already successfully rebuilt a roster… they seem like good candidates to be successful again.

Perhaps why are we having to do it AGAIN? After 8 years is the better question.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Perhaps why are we having to do it AGAIN? After 8 years is the better question.

Because players get older and teams' windows tend to not last long periods of time, with extremely rare exception. We have had a 5 year window for SB contention as the result of their rebuild.

I don't know why I'm even bothering with you honestly.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:16 PM

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SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Perhaps why are we having to do it AGAIN? After 8 years is the better question.

Because players get older and teams' windows tend to not last long periods of time, with extremely rare exception. We have had a 5 year window for SB contention as the result of their rebuild.

I don't know why I'm even bothering with you honestly.

Coach JIM HARBAUGH never had a losing season in the NFL. Andy Reid wins consistently. I don't see them lose 4/8 seasons like Shany. The guy is just not as great or irreplaceable as you guys claim. He's very mid at best and even a CHOKER in the big games.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We are in a complete rebuild situation right now after 8 freaking years! Get real.

Even if that were true, which it certainly isn't, why would that change my point? Our staff has already successfully rebuilt a roster… they seem like good candidates to be successful again.

Are they tho? The OL has been a problem for years. The DL has had a lot of misses. The 1st round mistakes have been continuous. They have hit on a select few and I'm not sure the people that found those guys are still in the scouting department right now.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
Are they tho? The OL has been a problem for years. The DL has had a lot of misses. The 1st round mistakes have been continuous. They have hit on a select few and I'm not sure the people that found those guys are still in the scouting department right now.

That's very true.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:22 PM

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SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Are they tho? The OL has been a problem for years. The DL has had a lot of misses. The 1st round mistakes have been continuous. They have hit on a select few and I'm not sure the people that found those guys are still in the scouting department right now.

Yes they are, because they have a track record. They have shown they can successfully rebuild a league worst roster into a SB contender, in conjunction with their coaching, in a short period of time. That doesn't mean they will succeed again, and it doesn't mean they won't make mistakes along the way.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
As long as Shanahan has personnel control on top of his subpar coaching, this franchise is not going to get back anytime soon

Seems like an odd judgement considering how fast they turned the roster around in a complete rebuild situation.

If the 49ers never got 2 years outta prime CMC, Shanahan would probably been fired. CMC has been propping him up since the KC regular season game in 2022

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Coach JIM HARBAUGH never had a losing season in the NFL. Andy Reid wins consistently. I don't see them lose 4/8 seasons like Shany. The guy is just not as great or irreplaceable as you guys claim. He's very mid at best and even a CHOKER in the big games.

He also has walked into two talented rosters that weren't coached well. He's never had to rebuild anything since Stanford.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by socalfan21:
If the 49ers never got 2 years outta prime CMC, Shanahan would probably been fired. CMC has been propping him up since the KC regular season game in 2022

Always fun to twist a point that works against your argument into something that hypothetically would support it.

They did acquire CMC. That's a move they made to continue their SB window. That's exactly the type of positive that supports the idea that they know how to build a roster, lol.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
As long as Shanahan has personnel control on top of his subpar coaching, this franchise is not going to get back anytime soon

Seems like an odd judgement considering how fast they turned the roster around in a complete rebuild situation.

We are in a complete rebuild situation right now after 8 freaking years! Get real.

Dec 31, 2024 at 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Coach JIM HARBAUGH never had a losing season in the NFL. Andy Reid wins consistently. I don't see them lose 4/8 seasons like Shany. The guy is just not as great or irreplaceable as you guys claim. He's very mid at best and even a CHOKER in the big games.

He also has walked into two talented rosters that weren't coached well. He's never had to rebuild anything since Stanford.

LOL. What an excuse. He is the REASON they turned around. That says a lot of great things. He literally turned around University of San Diego, Stanford, Michigan, 49ers, Chargers. All were not winning programs until he arrived there. The common denominator is.....HARBAUGH.

Dec 31, 2024 at 1:09 PM

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I don't have any issue with Harbaugh. Pretty sad that we choose Baalke over him. Currently though this roster is really on shaky grounds. The last several drafts don't give me much confidence.

Dec 31, 2024 at 1:21 PM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We are in a complete rebuild situation right now after 8 freaking years! Get real.

I would have to disagree with that. This team Is a few missing pieces away from being legit contenders again.

Dec 31, 2024 at 1:23 PM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Perhaps why are we having to do it AGAIN? After 8 years is the better question.

Because players get older and teams' windows tend to not last long periods of time, with extremely rare exception. We have had a 5 year window for SB contention as the result of their rebuild.

I don't know why I'm even bothering with you honestly.

Coach JIM HARBAUGH never had a losing season in the NFL. Andy Reid wins consistently. I don't see them lose 4/8 seasons like Shany. The guy is just not as great or irreplaceable as you guys claim. He's very mid at best and even a CHOKER in the big games.

Just go a be chargers fan already and stop spamming this thread with JH. Mods need to put you on TO again.