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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
this is the Jets we are talking about.. anything can and will happen

Nah jets always try to go big. They always try to get that big fish hire, even if the fit is bad.

jets have horrible ownership.

The Jets owner's 17 year old son is making GM decisions
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I am, I'm also calling out the guy who puts him out there. Now answer the question please. Thanks.

I'm not confident in any kicker making an almost 60 yard FG. I couldn't care less at the end of a season and he's trying to see if his kicker can build some confidence heading into the off season. Everyone knows how I feel about Moody and that pick. Folks were also all up in arms paying Gould. They went cheaper and it didn't f**king work.

If every single aspect of a football game is solely the result of what Kyle does…then again he's been one of the best in the league over the course of the past 5 yrs. That's a fact.

the problem with so many people's POV in here is you all think it's black and white. There is so many layers/context that go into everything. No one wants to have those debates though.

Yes a head coach is responsible for every aspect of the game. Do you guys really not know what a head coach is? You honestly don't seem to. I'm saying that with honest intent not to be a dick. I'm not saying a hc makes every single decision but he is the head coach of the entirety of the team. Making a decision to kick a FG at the 40 yard line with a kicker that has no confidence when the game is close was a dumb decision no matter how many excuses about EVERY SINGLE THING you guys make. There's an excuse for every single layer you guys make. I've talked layers upon layers upon layers of failures and nothing but excuses. No accountability at all.

But hey Sorensen...Deebo...Bosa...Moody... They get theirs.

And someone correct me... Even the announcers during Detroit brought up something along the lines of Shanny literally admitting something like he doesn't know how to coach or approach a kicker. It was something a long those lines and I scratched my head wondering isn't that part of coaching?!

Layers though... Negative like 75 points in the fourth. Choking games historically... No ability to come from behind in the 4th... Something like 1 and 25 and I'm being generous. Layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers.

So now Kyle is responsible for teaching correct kicking technique as well?? Lmao

Ya keep scratching your head because no HC is out there teaching kickers how to kick.
Kyle is responsible for every aspect of the San Fran Sisco 49ers program.

He is the head coach.
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle is responsible for every aspect of the San Fran Sisco 49ers program.

He is the head coach.

Um you spelt San Francisco wrong.
I'll post this in this thread too since it applies to the genius in charge.

Schneider needed to be fired, especially after he recommended picking Moody, but he does have a scapegoat feel to him. The last STC we fired in 2021, Richard Hightower, coordinated a top 5 unit in Chicago this year.

So who's the common denominator in all this?
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'll post this in this thread too since it applies to the genius in charge.

Schneider needed to be fired, especially after he recommended picking Moody, but he does have a scapegoat feel to him. The last STC we fired in 2021, Richard Hightower, coordinated a top 5 unit in Chicago this year.

So who's the common denominator in all this?

You can only spread as much money on your 53.
The art is to have an roster that wins on Offense and Defense, and has good ST Players to get the third Phase done.

Can you compare the money distribution on ST Players in Chicago and on the 49ers Roster?
Maybe the Roster makes the coach in Chicago, who knows
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'll post this in this thread too since it applies to the genius in charge.

Schneider needed to be fired, especially after he recommended picking Moody, but he does have a scapegoat feel to him. The last STC we fired in 2021, Richard Hightower, coordinated a top 5 unit in Chicago this year.

So who's the common denominator in all this?

You can only spread as much money on your 53.
The art is to have an roster that wins on Offense and Defense, and has good ST Players to get the third Phase done.

Can you compare the money distribution on ST Players in Chicago and on the 49ers Roster?
Maybe the Roster makes the coach in Chicago, who knows

You're probably right after money distribution when we have a top-heavy roster.

But a lot of this is asset management and situational football. It was their decision to draft Jake Moody. It was their decision to draft Mitch Wishnowsky in the 4th round and then give him a second contract when he's always been an average punter, at best (and was awful this year).

Kyle wasn't calling plays on Sunday. You couldn't tell me he shouldn't have had the defense out on the field on a 4th and 5 before the fake punt?
I read that Schneider was pounding the Table for Moody...
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I read that Schneider was pounding the Table for Moody...

he was a badass in college
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I read that Schneider was pounding the Table for Moody...

May he forever stub his toe when walking up to his bed.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I am, I'm also calling out the guy who puts him out there. Now answer the question please. Thanks.

I'm not confident in any kicker making an almost 60 yard FG. I couldn't care less at the end of a season and he's trying to see if his kicker can build some confidence heading into the off season. Everyone knows how I feel about Moody and that pick. Folks were also all up in arms paying Gould. They went cheaper and it didn't f**king work.

If every single aspect of a football game is solely the result of what Kyle does…then again he's been one of the best in the league over the course of the past 5 yrs. That's a fact.

the problem with so many people's POV in here is you all think it's black and white. There is so many layers/context that go into everything. No one wants to have those debates though.

Yes a head coach is responsible for every aspect of the game. Do you guys really not know what a head coach is? You honestly don't seem to. I'm saying that with honest intent not to be a dick. I'm not saying a hc makes every single decision but he is the head coach of the entirety of the team. Making a decision to kick a FG at the 40 yard line with a kicker that has no confidence when the game is close was a dumb decision no matter how many excuses about EVERY SINGLE THING you guys make. There's an excuse for every single layer you guys make. I've talked layers upon layers upon layers of failures and nothing but excuses. No accountability at all.

But hey Sorensen...Deebo...Bosa...Moody... They get theirs.

And someone correct me... Even the announcers during Detroit brought up something along the lines of Shanny literally admitting something like he doesn't know how to coach or approach a kicker. It was something a long those lines and I scratched my head wondering isn't that part of coaching?!

Layers though... Negative like 75 points in the fourth. Choking games historically... No ability to come from behind in the 4th... Something like 1 and 25 and I'm being generous. Layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers.

So now Kyle is responsible for teaching correct kicking technique as well?? Lmao

Ya keep scratching your head because no HC is out there teaching kickers how to kick.

You don't coach kickers, you cut them.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I read that Schneider was pounding the Table for Moody...

he was a badass in college

He was an 83% kicker in college.
Something is broken at the 49ers.

Someone needs to fix it.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I am, I'm also calling out the guy who puts him out there. Now answer the question please. Thanks.

I'm not confident in any kicker making an almost 60 yard FG. I couldn't care less at the end of a season and he's trying to see if his kicker can build some confidence heading into the off season. Everyone knows how I feel about Moody and that pick. Folks were also all up in arms paying Gould. They went cheaper and it didn't f**king work.

If every single aspect of a football game is solely the result of what Kyle does…then again he's been one of the best in the league over the course of the past 5 yrs. That's a fact.

the problem with so many people's POV in here is you all think it's black and white. There is so many layers/context that go into everything. No one wants to have those debates though.

Yes a head coach is responsible for every aspect of the game. Do you guys really not know what a head coach is? You honestly don't seem to. I'm saying that with honest intent not to be a dick. I'm not saying a hc makes every single decision but he is the head coach of the entirety of the team. Making a decision to kick a FG at the 40 yard line with a kicker that has no confidence when the game is close was a dumb decision no matter how many excuses about EVERY SINGLE THING you guys make. There's an excuse for every single layer you guys make. I've talked layers upon layers upon layers of failures and nothing but excuses. No accountability at all.

But hey Sorensen...Deebo...Bosa...Moody... They get theirs.

And someone correct me... Even the announcers during Detroit brought up something along the lines of Shanny literally admitting something like he doesn't know how to coach or approach a kicker. It was something a long those lines and I scratched my head wondering isn't that part of coaching?!

Layers though... Negative like 75 points in the fourth. Choking games historically... No ability to come from behind in the 4th... Something like 1 and 25 and I'm being generous. Layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers.

So now Kyle is responsible for teaching correct kicking technique as well?? Lmao

Ya keep scratching your head because no HC is out there teaching kickers how to kick.

I would type it but I'll just let Grok explain to you basic football and not waste my time on something so embarrassingly simple.. Let me/Grok educate you basic basic stuff. Like basic stuff.

  • Game Day Decisions: During games, the head coach makes critical decisions like when to go for a field goal, punt, attempt a fourth-down conversion, or manage the clock. They also handle in-game adjustments based on how the game is unfolding.
  • Accountability: Ultimately, the head coach is accountable for the team's performance. Their job security can often hinge on win-loss records, playoff appearances, and overall team success.
  • Player Development: Head coaches work on improving the skills of individual players, often through practice sessions, film study, and personal coaching. They decide who plays, how much they play, and in what positions.
  • Game Strategy: They develop game plans for both offense and defense, often in collaboration with coordinators. This involves analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of both their own team and the opposition to devise the best tactics.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/KMKHt9rKD7BYCJLoeEcHWdBvk

Here's Grok in great detail explaining HC responsibility with kickers to you. Like basic basic common sense. I'm seriously embarrassed you don't know this but I'm used to it by now.

  • Practice Management: The head coach oversees practice sessions where kickers work on their technique, accuracy, and distance. They ensure that kickers get enough reps in various scenarios, like kicking into the wind or from challenging angles.

  • Game Day Decisions: Decisions like whether to attempt a field goal, go for a two-point conversion instead of an extra point,

  • Performance Evaluation: The head coach assesses the performance of the kicker, making decisions about whether they should remain with the team or if changes need to be made.


  • ****Mental Preparation and Support: Head coaches also play a role in the mental preparation of kickers, understanding that this position can be particularly high-pressure. They might work on the kicker's confidence or manage their role in high-stress situations.******

  • Special Teams Coordination: Although there's usually a special teams coach handling the specifics, the head coach ensures that the special teams unit, including the kicker, is well-integrated into the overall team strategy.

While the day-to-day coaching of a kicker might be handled by a special teams coordinator, the head coach's strategic oversight, game management, and leadership significantly impact how kickers are utilized and perform within the team.

https://x.com/i/grok

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

You don't coach kickers, you cut them.
Who cuts them exactly? I'm not asking JimmyJimmyJimmy because he doesn't understand but you probably know this.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Jan 7, 2025 at 2:20 PM ]
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I am, I'm also calling out the guy who puts him out there. Now answer the question please. Thanks.

I'm not confident in any kicker making an almost 60 yard FG. I couldn't care less at the end of a season and he's trying to see if his kicker can build some confidence heading into the off season. Everyone knows how I feel about Moody and that pick. Folks were also all up in arms paying Gould. They went cheaper and it didn't f**king work.

If every single aspect of a football game is solely the result of what Kyle does…then again he's been one of the best in the league over the course of the past 5 yrs. That's a fact.

the problem with so many people's POV in here is you all think it's black and white. There is so many layers/context that go into everything. No one wants to have those debates though.

Yes a head coach is responsible for every aspect of the game. Do you guys really not know what a head coach is? You honestly don't seem to. I'm saying that with honest intent not to be a dick. I'm not saying a hc makes every single decision but he is the head coach of the entirety of the team. Making a decision to kick a FG at the 40 yard line with a kicker that has no confidence when the game is close was a dumb decision no matter how many excuses about EVERY SINGLE THING you guys make. There's an excuse for every single layer you guys make. I've talked layers upon layers upon layers of failures and nothing but excuses. No accountability at all.

But hey Sorensen...Deebo...Bosa...Moody... They get theirs.

And someone correct me... Even the announcers during Detroit brought up something along the lines of Shanny literally admitting something like he doesn't know how to coach or approach a kicker. It was something a long those lines and I scratched my head wondering isn't that part of coaching?!

Layers though... Negative like 75 points in the fourth. Choking games historically... No ability to come from behind in the 4th... Something like 1 and 25 and I'm being generous. Layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers.

So now Kyle is responsible for teaching correct kicking technique as well?? Lmao

Ya keep scratching your head because no HC is out there teaching kickers how to kick.

I would type it but I'll just let Grok explain to you basic football and not waste my time on something so embarrassingly simple.. Let me/Grok educate you basic basic stuff. Like basic stuff.

  • Game Day Decisions: During games, the head coach makes critical decisions like when to go for a field goal, punt, attempt a fourth-down conversion, or manage the clock. They also handle in-game adjustments based on how the game is unfolding.
  • Accountability: Ultimately, the head coach is accountable for the team's performance. Their job security can often hinge on win-loss records, playoff appearances, and overall team success.
  • Player Development: Head coaches work on improving the skills of individual players, often through practice sessions, film study, and personal coaching. They decide who plays, how much they play, and in what positions.
  • Game Strategy: They develop game plans for both offense and defense, often in collaboration with coordinators. This involves analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of both their own team and the opposition to devise the best tactics.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/KMKHt9rKD7BYCJLoeEcHWdBvk

Here's Grok in great detail explaining HC responsibility with kickers to you. Like basic basic common sense. I'm seriously embarrassed you don't know this but I'm used to it by now.

  • Practice Management: The head coach oversees practice sessions where kickers work on their technique, accuracy, and distance. They ensure that kickers get enough reps in various scenarios, like kicking into the wind or from challenging angles.

  • Game Day Decisions: Decisions like whether to attempt a field goal, go for a two-point conversion instead of an extra point,

  • Performance Evaluation: The head coach assesses the performance of the kicker, making decisions about whether they should remain with the team or if changes need to be made.


  • ****Mental Preparation and Support: Head coaches also play a role in the mental preparation of kickers, understanding that this position can be particularly high-pressure. They might work on the kicker's confidence or manage their role in high-stress situations.******

  • Special Teams Coordination: Although there's usually a special teams coach handling the specifics, the head coach ensures that the special teams unit, including the kicker, is well-integrated into the overall team strategy.

While the day-to-day coaching of a kicker might be handled by a special teams coordinator, the head coach's strategic oversight, game management, and leadership significantly impact how kickers are utilized and perform within the team.

https://x.com/i/grok

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

You don't coach kickers, you cut them.
Who cuts them exactly? I'm not asking JimmyJimmyJimmy because he doesn't understand but you probably know this.
pointing out was coaches supposedly do... this doesn't prove anything.. clueless ^^
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