49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
But Kyle had two picks at DC in a row that lasted a year.

Do you think that is a good success rate?

He had 4 coaches under him that became head coaches, 2 were DCs. So that's something. Championship teams need solid coaches otherwise the alternative is Mike McCarthy.
Kyle doesn't come across as a difficult boss, so working here is a desirable position.

I would prefer former Bengals DC, Lou Anarumo, from the available candidates.

I don't think Salah wants to come back (but I also think many forget how some viewed him when he was the DC, it wasn't always great).. IMO, DeMeco Ryans seemed more liked/trusted as DC.

I'm not totally sold on Ulbrich (loved when he was playing for us), but I don't like that being used as one of the reasons for him being a good fit. Kyle replaced Wilks because he "wasn't a good fit". We can't settle for just a good fit, we need someone special. Unique. Creative.

With Anarumo, his defense made it to the Super Bowl... and obviously being in the AFC, they tough teams to make it to the Super Bowl. Beating Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs, of all teams.

But maybe Lou won't be much of a "yes man" to Kyle's liking... So Kyle might prefer someone else.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Well, if we had a winning season, and we were in the play offs..with something to look forward to....

or had won a Superbowl in the last 30 years,

or hadn't gone from a season of 12-5 and playoff wins and a heart breaking Superbowl loss to a season of 6-11.

or didn't have a huge number of star players who are injured and may not come back as good next year as before.

or hadn't sacked half our coaching team.

or didn't have to pay $60 million to a quarterback we still aren't sure about.

or had a fluid salary cap.

or had some stability in the franchise.

We just mightn't have anything to complain about.

Well, you have certainly found a number of things to moan about. You are pushing it with some of them, though.

Yeah, it hasn't been a good season. There is little point in continuing to repeat this one. We are where we are.

Injuries? Yes, the bug has bitten deep and this is largely why the season has been so dismal. The injured players may not come back as good next year? Who knows? Maybe they will. Let's wait and see.

"we have just sacked half our coaching team"? This one is stupid. Who is moaning that we have just sacked a coach and told another that he won't get his job back but may be repositioned? The zone, for the most part, has been calling for Schneider's head for some time and now he has gone you put the firing forward on your list of things to moan about. Sorensen wasn't sacked but most of the zone wanted him out as DC and now he is. And that is also on your list of things to moan about. One sacking and one repositioning is hardly "half of the coaching team" or anywhere near it.

We don't have to pay 60m to our qb. We have him for another year then we can let him walk if we want. Fairly sure that would then end up being another entry on your list of things to moan about, in due course. I doubt we will give him 60m anyway, but there you are. Another pointless moan. You invent a possible salary then complain about it. Hey, Paraag wants to reassure you that you won't have to pay it. Quarterbacks are expensive. Bite on it.

A fluid salary cap? We have plenty of cap space, don't see this as an issue. According to OTC we are 8th on the list of overall cap room right now.

Stability in the franchise? Again, what are you talking about? There is no instability at any of the key positions, owner, GM, HC, President. We aren't looking to move the franchise. So what is the problem?

So, things to moan about. We are overdue a Lombardi. That was a s**te season and the number of injuries remains a concern.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Well, if we had a winning season, and we were in the play offs..with something to look forward to....

or had won a Superbowl in the last 30 years,

or hadn't gone from a season of 12-5 and playoff wins and a heart breaking Superbowl loss to a season of 6-11.

or didn't have a huge number of star players who are injured and may not come back as good next year as before.

or hadn't sacked half our coaching team.

or didn't have to pay $60 million to a quarterback we still aren't sure about.

or had a fluid salary cap.

or had some stability in the franchise.

We just mightn't have anything to complain about.

Well, you have certainly found a number of things to moan about. You are pushing it with some of them, though.

Yeah, it hasn't been a good season. There is little point in continuing to repeat this one. We are where we are.

Injuries? Yes, the bug has bitten deep and this is largely why the season has been so dismal. The injured players may not come back as good next year? Who knows? Maybe they will. Let's wait and see.

"we have just sacked half our coaching team"? This one is stupid. Who is moaning that we have just sacked a coach and told another that he won't get his job back but may be repositioned? The zone, for the most part, has been calling for Schneider's head for some time and now he has gone you put the firing forward on your list of things to moan about. Sorensen wasn't sacked but most of the zone wanted him out as DC and now he is. And that is also on your list of things to moan about. One sacking and one repositioning is hardly "half of the coaching team" or anywhere near it.

We don't have to pay 60m to our qb. We have him for another year then we can let him walk if we want. Fairly sure that would then end up being another entry on your list of things to moan about, in due course. I doubt we will give him 60m anyway, but there you are. Another pointless moan. You invent a possible salary then complain about it. Hey, Paraag wants to reassure you that you won't have to pay it. Quarterbacks are expensive. Bite on it.

A fluid salary cap? We have plenty of cap space, don't see this as an issue. According to OTC we are 8th on the list of overall cap room right now.

Stability in the franchise? Again, what are you talking about? There is no instability at any of the key positions, owner, GM, HC, President. We aren't looking to move the franchise. So what is the problem?

So, things to moan about. We are overdue a Lombardi. That was a s**te season and the number of injuries remains a concern.

In regards to sacking half the coaching staff, I don't think he's complaining about the act of firing those coaches, but complaining about the fact that they were so bad that we had to replace them. I wouldn't take him literally in regards to "half our coaching team", I think he's just talking about the coordinators (OC, DC, Special Teams Coordinator (STC)). We're replacing 2/3rds of our coordinators and I think that's the instability he's referring to.

The aging, injured players is a legitimate concern too. That's why the last Super Bowl loss hurts so much. Not sure we'll get a better chance any time soon. To ease some of this anxiety about next season, they need to have another good draft and bring in a good DC and STC. I hope they get it right.

Thank you, Kyle for abandoning your loyalty program. I'm when it comes to coaches now we just gotta do the same for some players.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I would prefer former Bengals DC, Lou Anarumo, from the available candidates.

I don't think Salah wants to come back (but I also think many forget how some viewed him when he was the DC, it wasn't always great).. IMO, DeMeco Ryans seemed more liked/trusted as DC.

I'm not totally sold on Ulbrich (loved when he was playing for us), but I don't like that being used as one of the reasons for him being a good fit. Kyle replaced Wilks because he "wasn't a good fit". We can't settle for just a good fit, we need someone special. Unique. Creative.

With Anarumo, his defense made it to the Super Bowl... and obviously being in the AFC, they tough teams to make it to the Super Bowl. Beating Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs, of all teams.

But maybe Lou won't be much of a "yes man" to Kyle's liking... So Kyle might prefer someone else.

I agree. I'd be ok with Saleh as long as he brings his staff from NY with to him (including Ulbrich and maybe we can snatch Boyer as STs coach), but the move is nostalgic at best. This defensive scheme (like the offense) has become stale and teams have figured how to attack it. We need a refresher. A coach that's a bit more aggressive. Anarumo was a great coordinator for the Bengals who knows how to scheme against Mahomey and Co. His downfall is due to cheap ownership allowing key players to leave via free agency.

If we can't pluck Jim Schwartz from Cleveland, I'm on board with Lou…

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
So many broken parts, so little stickytape.

So many whiny fans.

Coming up so close to only fall short 7 times in the last 15 seasons will do that.

__PRESENT

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Kyle Shanahan's record with the San Francisco 49ers when trailing in the 4th quarter has been notably poor. Here's a breakdown based on available information:

• When his team is trailing by 3 or more points entering the 4th quarter, Shanahan's record is 1-31.
  
  
• When his team is trailing by 8 or more points entering the 4th quarter, his record is 0-37.
  
  

These statistics highlight a consistent challenge for Shanahan's teams when it comes to mounting comebacks in the final quarter of games.

what are some other coaches records with this same data?
__PRESENT

Originally posted by miked1978:
__PRESENT

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Kyle Shanahan's record with the San Francisco 49ers when trailing in the 4th quarter has been notably poor. Here's a breakdown based on available information:

• When his team is trailing by 3 or more points entering the 4th quarter, Shanahan's record is 1-31.
  
  
• When his team is trailing by 8 or more points entering the 4th quarter, his record is 0-37.
  
  

These statistics highlight a consistent challenge for Shanahan's teams when it comes to mounting comebacks in the final quarter of games.

what are some other coaches records with this same data?
__PRESENT

When I looked it up Walsh was like 2-31 when trailing by 8 when entering the 4th quarter.

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
In regards to sacking half the coaching staff, I don't think he's complaining about the act of firing those coaches, but complaining about the fact that they were so bad that we had to replace them. I wouldn't take him literally in regards to "half our coaching team", I think he's just talking about the coordinators (OC, DC, Special Teams Coordinator (STC)). We're replacing 2/3rds of our coordinators and I think that's the instability he's referring to.

The aging, injured players is a legitimate concern too. That's why the last Super Bowl loss hurts so much. Not sure we'll get a better chance any time soon. To ease some of this anxiety about next season, they need to have another good draft and bring in a good DC and STC. I hope they get it right.

The alternative was not to sack Schneider and not to replace Sorensen. Everyone happy with that? My point is, complaining whether the team either did something or didn't do it is not a balanced response. If posters are complaining because Sorensen failed at the position, at the time of hiring there wasn't a massive choice. And they have barely wasted a second in firing him after one season, which I would usually consider insufficient time to make such an assessment. Schneider has deteriorated season by season but this season became seriously unacceptable. The point is, faced with the current circumstances the team have taken prompt action and now we can just hope that the replacements work out.

When key players get injured, that is a huge concern. I accepted that in my previous post and have always accepted it. Damned if I can come up with an explanation (since we dumped Baalke and his drafting). Other than that and the lack of a Lombardi, the list of "complaints" don't have any substance.

Listening to him right now, ummmm ummmmmm ummmmm ummmmmm

Drives me crazy

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I would prefer former Bengals DC, Lou Anarumo, from the available candidates.

I don't think Salah wants to come back (but I also think many forget how some viewed him when he was the DC, it wasn't always great).. IMO, DeMeco Ryans seemed more liked/trusted as DC.

I'm not totally sold on Ulbrich (loved when he was playing for us), but I don't like that being used as one of the reasons for him being a good fit. Kyle replaced Wilks because he "wasn't a good fit". We can't settle for just a good fit, we need someone special. Unique. Creative.

With Anarumo, his defense made it to the Super Bowl... and obviously being in the AFC, they tough teams to make it to the Super Bowl. Beating Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs, of all teams.

But maybe Lou won't be much of a "yes man" to Kyle's liking... So Kyle might prefer someone else.

I am sketchy on Lou.tbh and would rather avoid him. I hear you about Saleh, but he built the Jets D solid as well. Also we know he has the respect of other defensive minds like Bill B etc which counts for something. He learned how to be a DC here and was pretty bad his first year. To his credit he learned and grew. So I would not mind a reunion at all as I think it may take him a few years to become a HC again, if ever. Saleh also brought energy players respect. Wlikes and Sorensen ddidnt have that at all imo.

Agreed on Ulbrich. If he came in under Saleh np, but as our dc I am not feeling it all. Makes no sense.

Very refreshing to hear Kyle say he is open to anything on defense. That should help attract more candidates. Wilkes was odd because I love the man, but as DC he was a dud, but imo Kyle didn't set him up for success by forcing him into a a half baked scheme etc. It was all good intentions etc, but I want to see him get a solid DC and let him run with it.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
But Kyle had two picks at DC in a row that lasted a year.

Do you think that is a good success rate?

He had 4 coaches under him that became head coaches, 2 were DCs. So that's something. Championship teams need solid coaches otherwise the alternative is Mike McCarthy.
Kyle doesn't come across as a difficult boss, so working here is a desirable position.

Also the last two DC picks were coming off long ass seasons. They couldn't make a change until after the Super Bowl last yr and Wilks wasn't into mid February.

Folks acting like hasn't put together good coaches staffs lol. Only the Kyle hater club would make that kind of s**t up.

Originally posted by jimrat:
Listening to him right now, ummmm ummmmmm ummmmm ummmmmm

Drives me crazy

He should just do the Bill Belichick thing and say nothing, right?

Originally posted by jimrat:
Listening to him right now, ummmm ummmmmm ummmmm ummmmmm

Drives me crazy