49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Bill Walsh let Joe just do his own thing all game long?

Hahaha right?

in one breath it's he's too controlling in another breath it's Kyle is responsible for every single thing no matter what. They can't even argue properly…sound like a bunch of kids complaining just of complain.

So what did Kyle do good this year? Anyone? I'm trying to be positive but you guys can't name a song positive yet. Why not? Ny you always run away but anyone else?

It was a s**t year all around. The good coaches tho, when it's a down year for whatever reasons, know how to keep their teams motivated, not lose the locker room, and players still going out and playing hard. There were no subtle jabs by players, no media sound bites from players, it was still all positivity because of the culture he created it and because the players still believe in him.

Unlike some of our idiotic fans, players understand how bad this season was because all the injuries. So until the players start rebelling against the Kyle, there's no reason to listen to some of these idiotic fans who sit around licking the Cheeto dust of their fingers and acting like they know s**t.

Decent response... It's nice when you actually talk football instead of attacking posters every once in great great a while. There most definitely does seem to be good camaraderie and chemistry outside of homeboy quitting which I won't pin on Kyle. I said yesterday(all year) that he deserves another off-season to reload and get healthy.

With that said, I think you're driving my point that there was not a lot of good of anything coming out of this season. Very little like Puni, Green, JJ, and Lenoir but not much. We blew leads we shouldn't have, again. We turned the ball over. We didn't get turnovers, we were outscored by 75 points in the fourth, redzone was dismal, defense was bad, offense was bad, special teams was an embarrassment... .. . I could go on and on.

You guys think a HC has absolutely NOTHING to do with any of that. Me? I think it's a direct reflection of poor coaching. No tangibles, no discipline, no moxy in the 4th, very little player development and very little anyone playing above their average. Not is everything his fault? No but it still is his fault.

The buck stops with Kyle Shannahan.

End of story.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The buck stops with Kyle Shannahan.

End of story.

Perfect then. So hopefully going forward you stop posting the same dumb takes daily.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The buck stops with Kyle Shannahan.

End of story.

Perfect then. So hopefully going forward you stop posting the same dumb takes daily.

The Truth will set you FREE.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
you are talking about the Los Vegas Raiders who sack everybody, and no one wants to play there.

With the Niners Jimmy proved himself time and again.

We could have easily won two Superbowls with Jimmy, in fact we should have.

Except Kyle got in the way.

Yup totally Kyle's fault right here


worst QR rating in the 4th QR in Super Bowl history. I mean at this point you gotta be trolling.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The buck stops with Kyle Shannahan.

End of story.

Perfect then. So hopefully going forward you stop posting the same dumb takes daily.

He doesn't want Kyle to run everything, but Kyle is also responsible for everything lol. Make it make sense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Ok what do you think Kyle did well this year NY? We talk so much negativity in here but let's be positive about this season. No excuses just what Kyle did well please. Let's be positive please but I need you to enlighten me since you apparently understand more than me.

I noticed you skipped over the post of me showing your double standards. Wonder why?

4th in overall yards per game this yr.
2nd in yards per play.
13th in pts per game.
8th best in yards allowed
5th best in passing yards allowed this yr

I can explain to you the reasons for a down yr and why very easily, you don't want to have a objective conversation about it so what's the point

Move the ball but can't score. We have a FG kicker who Kyle continually puts out and outside of Chicago and LAR the first half the playcalling in the redzone was not good. We'll see how he does next year.

13th (14th according to ESPN Link) is nothing to write home about. Not for a guys who's supposed be tops as far as offensive ingenuity. Yes injuries didn't help.

8th best in yards allowed and 5th in pasa yards allowed? That's impressive Sorensen... Oh wait he gets fired for that. Unlike Shanahan he gets held accountable. Hm.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
you are talking about the Los Vegas Raiders who sack everybody, and no one wants to play there.

With the Niners Jimmy proved himself time and again.

We could have easily won two Superbowls with Jimmy, in fact we should have.

Except Kyle got in the way.

Yup totally Kyle's fault right here

Jimmy Garoppolo could have won a Super Bowl. https://t.co/5uNEFhOHZt pic.twitter.com/TO8scBYZXS

— Michael Hauff (@TheFFRealist) August 29, 2022

worst QR rating in the 4th QR in Super Bowl history. I mean at this point you gotta be trolling.

Kyle just let Jimmy cook!!

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

CMC fumbled on the first drive and Trent killed another early drive with 2 penalties. Kyle deserves a lot of blame for how that game ended, but I don't blame him for not jumping on KC the way we should have

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
you are talking about the Los Vegas Raiders who sack everybody, and no one wants to play there.

With the Niners Jimmy proved himself time and again.

We could have easily won two Superbowls with Jimmy, in fact we should have.

Except Kyle got in the way.

Yup totally Kyle's fault right here

Jimmy Garoppolo could have won a Super Bowl. https://t.co/5uNEFhOHZt pic.twitter.com/TO8scBYZXS

— Michael Hauff (@TheFFRealist) August 29, 2022

worst QR rating in the 4th QR in Super Bowl history. I mean at this point you gotta be trolling.

Players missing big plays to put games away is Kyles teams fortay. Historically. Players NEVER step up at the most important times. It's not just Jimmy.

And yes Jimmy should've hit this. He deserves as much blame as anyone though there were countless other mistakes as always. I could probably name 10 scenarios right now if I wanted. Once or twice, it's the players. 10+ times is the coaching.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The point I and others are making is that Jimmy has done just fine without Kyle.

Fact is, some say, Kyle did not utilise Jimmy effectively and you can see that Kyle Shannahan is starting to do the same thing with Brock Purdy.

Brock's work in the red zone has Kyle's initials all over it. Conservative, conservative, conservative.

Add to that a kicker like moody who misses as many as he gets, and you can see why the fan base of the San Francisco 49ers is Uber frustrated with what they have seen recently.

Add this to the fact Kyle lost an unlosable Superbowl to Kansas City when 10-0 up and again playing Uber conservative offence, so much so that All World tight End George Kittle ended the game with one reception for two years and you get the picture. It all adds up.

Kyle makes the same mistakes, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

From Matt Ryan in the Superbowl to this year of mediocracy.

Except with Matt Ryan he got crucified for not being conservative. Fact is, he put his team in position to win the SB and they s**t the bed. They had a holding call that negated what basically would have iced the game after a big gain. They had a RB miss a block then the QB taking a sack knocking them out of FG range and a fumble. I haven't even got to the defense yet. Being up 38-3 then losing.

This past SB we scored on our last 3-4 possessions to keep giving us the lead. Once again his defense can't make a play.

In ATLANTA neither his offense nor defense made a play down the stretch to win. On offense plays were there to be made they didn't make them.

This past Superbowl his unit made the plays down the stretch. Him as HC/OC should be at worse 2-1 in Superbowls. Argument can be made 3-0 but 1st KC Superbowl there was definitely blame on Kyle for being conservative IMO.

In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

I've pointed this out before, but watch what Bruce Arians and Tom Brady did to the Chiefs before halftime of their Super Bowl.... watch their mentality in comparison to Kyle's.

Bucs had a 14-3 lead... but the Chiefs drove downfield, but the Bucs held them to 3 pts. So all the sudden, the Bucs only had a one score lead with under 1min to play before halftime. Hell 44 secs left on a 3rd down on the other side of the 40 yard line..

Kyle would have ran out the clock, to regroup in the locker room.

but the Bucs just kept attacking with only 40 secs to go. Attacking deep to get them in FG range... but that wasn't enough for them... with secs left to go, they kept attacking because they wanted a TD... not a FG. They got their TD.



That gave them a 21-6 starting the 3rd qtr. Chiefs got the ball first.. but believe they were stopped. But still the Bucs kept attacking for a TD...and was able to extend the lead. Basically allowing them to play coverage and chase around Mahomes.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Move the ball but can't score. We have a FG who Kyle continually puts out and outside of Chicago and LAR the first half the playcalling in the redzone was not good.

13th (14th according to ESPN Link) is nothing to write home about.

8th best in yards allowed and 5th in pasa yards allowed? That's impressive Sorensen... Oh wait he gets fired for that. Unlike Shanahan he gets held accountable. Hm.

Like I said I can explain to you why they weren't as good but you will just call having $117M on IR an excuse. They were bad in the RZ a spot where your talent is suppose to show up. They lost 3 games purely off of ST issues.

13th in points per game when you lost two players that had 28TDs last yr is kinda a big.

Again you're not here to have an objective debate. You're so emotional about it acting like Kyle had never had success here. What a joke.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Move the ball but can't score. We have a FG who Kyle continually puts out and outside of Chicago and LAR the first half the playcalling in the redzone was not good.

13th (14th according to ESPN Link) is nothing to write home about.

8th best in yards allowed and 5th in pasa yards allowed? That's impressive Sorensen... Oh wait he gets fired for that. Unlike Shanahan he gets held accountable. Hm.

Like I said I can explain to you why they weren't as good but you will just call having $117M on IR an excuse. They were bad in the RZ a spot where your talent is suppose to show up. They lost 3 games purely off of ST issues.

13th in points per game when you lost two players that had 28TDs last yr is kinda a big.

Again you're not here to have an objective debate. You're so emotional about it acting like Kyle had never had success here. What a joke.

Kyle has nothing to do with countless years of poor special teams? How many years did he put STs on the back burner.

And enough with snooty bs lol. You're the guy who threw a temper tantrum that we got CMC. You're not as brilliant as you think you are. Not saying that you're dumb but nobody can be that blatantly ignorant about CMC then act like your some football genius.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Players missing big plays to put games away is Kyles teams fortay. Historically. Players NEVER step up at the most important times. It's not just Jimmy.

And yes Jimmy should've hit this. He deserves as much blame as anyone though there were countless other mistakes as always.

Kyle has never had that great QB to step up when it matters. There's a reason why NE and KC won as many SBs as they have. At some point your guys gotta make a f**king play. Why is that so hard for people to get? This isn't a video game,

that Jimmy play is a perfect example of setting the guy up to have success. Go make it happen! Brock had a s**t read on a hot route on 3rd down that would have changed the game. There's so many things that could have changed the outcome of ONE game that are outside of just coaching. How about you reconize that?

Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?