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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Players missing big plays to put games away is Kyles teams fortay. Historically. Players NEVER step up at the most important times. It's not just Jimmy.

And yes Jimmy should've hit this. He deserves as much blame as anyone though there were countless other mistakes as always.

There's so many things that could have changed the outcome of ONE game

Agree... But his players continually failed. You think it's coincidence. I think it's a reflection of coaching. As I've said his players have a history of not making basic plays. Eventually that leads back to lack of coaching and lack of mental acuity.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?

Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?

Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.

What makes you say that?

Is a losing Head Coach in a position of power?
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

CMC fumbled on the first drive and Trent killed another early drive with 2 penalties. Kyle deserves a lot of blame for how that game ended, but I don't blame him for not jumping on KC the way we should have

Hi Charlie,

Kyle was uber conservative on offense late in the second and early in the third quarter.

Thats what lost us the game.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?

Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.

What makes you say that?

Is a losing Head Coach in a position of power?

Because he is in a set up where the power of the organisation is flowing through him.

John Lynch and the Yorks basically have given him the keys to the San Francisco 49ers kingdom without any accountability.

That's what real power looks like.

after a 6-11 losing season, John Lynch shouldn't be doing an interview with Kyle.

John Lynch should be doing an interview alone so he can answer questions about Kyle.

The real power is with Kyle than John.

The real power is with Kyle rather than the Yorks.

And Kyle loves it.

Kyle laps it up.
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Kyle has nothing to do with countless years of poor special teams? How many years did he put STs on the back burner.

And enough with snooty bs lol. You're the guy who threw a temper tantrum that we got CMC. You're not as brilliant as you think you are. Not saying that you're dumb but nobody can be that blatantly ignorant about CMC then act like your some football genius.

Explain how it's been on the back burner? They spent a f**king 3rd and 4th pick on a kicker and punter. They paid for a consistent pro-bowler in odum. They've put freaking Deebo back there to handle returns.

Brian Schneider has been a ST coach since 1997 and was Seattle's ST guy for a decade. What more do you want him to do?

Temper tantrum da f**k you talking about? I said they didn't need to trade for him if it was solely based off the run game. They didn't suck there before he came. I said his injury history is a thing (well look at that). I said I wanted to see what Kyle could do with him as a pass catcher. I said we don't need to spend a ton of money and high draft picks on RBs. They've shown they can find guys. They went to a SB with a career backup in mostert.

I've never said I was a genius about anything. I can separate being an emotional fan and being objective about something in here. I got no problem saying I'm wrong about something.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Hi Charlie,

Kyle was uber conservative on offense late in the second and early in the third quarter.

Thats what lost us the game.

🤣 too conservative too aggressive. Whole bunch of whining
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.

Troll comment without a doubt. How do you expect anyone to take you serious when you say stuff like this?
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 8, 2025 at 5:50 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.

Troll comment without a doubt. How do you expect anyone to take you serious when you say stuff like this?

Insult is ignorance. When you get close to the truth, the first thing that you learn is that other people will abuse you.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Hi Charlie,

Kyle was uber conservative on offense late in the second and early in the third quarter.

Thats what lost us the game.

🤣 too conservative too aggressive. Whole bunch of whining

No just too conservative.

All the time.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Insult is ignorance. When you get close to the truth, the first thing that you learn is that other people will abuse you.

Lul
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?

The Rams cause Jimmy is there.
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The point I and others are making is that Jimmy has done just fine without Kyle.

Fact is, some say, Kyle did not utilise Jimmy effectively and you can see that Kyle Shannahan is starting to do the same thing with Brock Purdy.

Brock's work in the red zone has Kyle's initials all over it. Conservative, conservative, conservative.

Add to that a kicker like moody who misses as many as he gets, and you can see why the fan base of the San Francisco 49ers is Uber frustrated with what they have seen recently.

Add this to the fact Kyle lost an unlosable Superbowl to Kansas City when 10-0 up and again playing Uber conservative offence, so much so that All World tight End George Kittle ended the game with one reception for two years and you get the picture. It all adds up.

Kyle makes the same mistakes, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

From Matt Ryan in the Superbowl to this year of mediocracy.

Except with Matt Ryan he got crucified for not being conservative. Fact is, he put his team in position to win the SB and they s**t the bed. They had a holding call that negated what basically would have iced the game after a big gain. They had a RB miss a block then the QB taking a sack knocking them out of FG range and a fumble. I haven't even got to the defense yet. Being up 38-3 then losing.

This past SB we scored on our last 3-4 possessions to keep giving us the lead. Once again his defense can't make a play.

In ATLANTA neither his offense nor defense made a play down the stretch to win. On offense plays were there to be made they didn't make them.

This past Superbowl his unit made the plays down the stretch. Him as HC/OC should be at worse 2-1 in Superbowls. Argument can be made 3-0 but 1st KC Superbowl there was definitely blame on Kyle for being conservative IMO.

In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

I've pointed this out before, but watch what Bruce Arians and Tom Brady did to the Chiefs before halftime of their Super Bowl.... watch their mentality in comparison to Kyle's.

Bucs had a 14-3 lead... but the Chiefs drove downfield, but the Bucs held them to 3 pts. So all the sudden, the Bucs only had a one score lead with under 1min to play before halftime. Hell 44 secs left on a 3rd down on the other side of the 40 yard line..

Kyle would have ran out the clock, to regroup in the locker room.

but the Bucs just kept attacking with only 40 secs to go. Attacking deep to get them in FG range... but that wasn't enough for them... with secs left to go, they kept attacking because they wanted a TD... not a FG. They got their TD.



That gave them a 21-6 starting the 3rd qtr. Chiefs got the ball first.. but believe they were stopped. But still the Bucs kept attacking for a TD...and was able to extend the lead. Basically allowing them to play coverage and chase around Mahomes.

Yep amazing how ppl seem to ignore this. SB 54. 49ers stop the Chiefs right before half. There's a shot of John Lynch in the booth jumping up and down making a TO gesture with his hands. Kyle instead runs out the clock. Dude has no football sense. Can't wait for the clown to get fired…
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Watching his interview where he said he wants to keep these same coaches around and it sounds like Kyle doesn't want to be here without his buddies. I wonder if he actually wants to be an O/C somewhere else?

Kyle just wants power.

He doesn't want to win, he just gets off on the power.

What makes you say that?

Is a losing Head Coach in a position of power?

Because he is in a set up where the power of the organisation is flowing through him.

John Lynch and the Yorks basically have given him the keys to the San Francisco 49ers kingdom without any accountability.

That's what real power looks like.

after a 6-11 losing season, John Lynch shouldn't be doing an interview with Kyle.

John Lynch should be doing an interview alone so he can answer questions about Kyle.

The real power is with Kyle than John.

The real power is with Kyle rather than the Yorks.

And Kyle loves it.

Kyle laps it up.

I hear you, same thing happened with Harbaugh. Jed lost control of him and the power dinamick of that relationship made Jed uncomfortable so he made the horrible mistake of letting Jim go without a replacement plan. 4 head coaches later and he found Kyle, and you think the same thing has happened with him?

We have to admit that we have issues finding coaches, drafting and developing QB's & O-Line guys. Nepotism and bad judgement is killing our franchise from a historic winning perspective.

With that said, my understanding is that the money is rolling in in regards to the business side of things so are things really going bad for everyone?
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

CMC fumbled on the first drive and Trent killed another early drive with 2 penalties. Kyle deserves a lot of blame for how that game ended, but I don't blame him for not jumping on KC the way we should have

Hi Charlie,

Kyle was uber conservative on offense late in the second and early in the third quarter.

Thats what lost us the game.

You might be mixing up the 2 SBs. It was the 19 sb where he got too conservative late in the 2nd. We stalled in the 3rd but it was also an adjustment period to Spags going straight man
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 8, 2025 at 5:59 PM ]
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