49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The point I and others are making is that Jimmy has done just fine without Kyle.

Fact is, some say, Kyle did not utilise Jimmy effectively and you can see that Kyle Shannahan is starting to do the same thing with Brock Purdy.

Brock's work in the red zone has Kyle's initials all over it. Conservative, conservative, conservative.

Add to that a kicker like moody who misses as many as he gets, and you can see why the fan base of the San Francisco 49ers is Uber frustrated with what they have seen recently.

Add this to the fact Kyle lost an unlosable Superbowl to Kansas City when 10-0 up and again playing Uber conservative offence, so much so that All World tight End George Kittle ended the game with one reception for two years and you get the picture. It all adds up.

Kyle makes the same mistakes, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

From Matt Ryan in the Superbowl to this year of mediocracy.

Except with Matt Ryan he got crucified for not being conservative. Fact is, he put his team in position to win the SB and they s**t the bed. They had a holding call that negated what basically would have iced the game after a big gain. They had a RB miss a block then the QB taking a sack knocking them out of FG range and a fumble. I haven't even got to the defense yet. Being up 38-3 then losing.

This past SB we scored on our last 3-4 possessions to keep giving us the lead. Once again his defense can't make a play.

In ATLANTA neither his offense nor defense made a play down the stretch to win. On offense plays were there to be made they didn't make them.

This past Superbowl his unit made the plays down the stretch. Him as HC/OC should be at worse 2-1 in Superbowls. Argument can be made 3-0 but 1st KC Superbowl there was definitely blame on Kyle for being conservative IMO.

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In the last Superbowl last year vrs Kansas City, Kyle went uber conservative offensively when we were 10-0 up in the first haldf when Kansas City was on their Knees begging for mercy. Kyle actually showed Kansas City mercy. Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid. We should have been miles ahead at half time. We should have been out of sight so no matter what Kansas City did, they couldn't come back.

So, Kyle kind of rectified it by the last quarter but it was too late.

When you get into a pissing competition with Patrick Mahomes in over time, and then stupidly decided to receive the ball after winning the coin toss, you are setting Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid up to succeed and for Kyle and for Kyle's team, the San Francisco 49ers to fail.

Which we did. Again!

I've pointed this out before, but watch what Bruce Arians and Tom Brady did to the Chiefs before halftime of their Super Bowl.... watch their mentality in comparison to Kyle's.

Bucs had a 14-3 lead... but the Chiefs drove downfield, but the Bucs held them to 3 pts. So all the sudden, the Bucs only had a one score lead with under 1min to play before halftime. Hell 44 secs left on a 3rd down on the other side of the 40 yard line..

Kyle would have ran out the clock, to regroup in the locker room.

but the Bucs just kept attacking with only 40 secs to go. Attacking deep to get them in FG range... but that wasn't enough for them... with secs left to go, they kept attacking because they wanted a TD... not a FG. They got their TD.



That gave them a 21-6 starting the 3rd qtr. Chiefs got the ball first.. but believe they were stopped. But still the Bucs kept attacking for a TD...and was able to extend the lead. Basically allowing them to play coverage and chase around Mahomes.

Yep amazing how ppl seem to ignore this. SB 54. 49ers stop the Chiefs right before half. There's a shot of John Lynch in the booth jumping up and down making a TO gesture with his hands. Kyle instead runs out the clock. Dude has no football sense. Can't wait for the clown to get fired…

He believes he's smarter than everyone else, just look at the drafts. He's still a young guy, but he isn't growing in the head coaching role.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That's your response ? It's ok we gave up 21 points in 7 minutes at the end of the game and put up 0 points to boot in that same time frame (only 10 points in the half) BECAUSE KC did it to Tennessee and Houston ?!

I didn't say it was 'ok'. What I intimated was that a 10 point lead against that team with 7 minutes left didn't put us anywhere near an 'unlosable' situation because of what that team was capable of. We saw it time and time again.

That's what you responded to in case you're confused. The idea that this game was 'unlosable'.

what's funny is they want to ignore actual facts.. the KC team was bad ass that year

"Bad ass". Interesting take. We gave up a 10 point lead with half a quarter left in the Super Bowl to KC because they were "bad ass that year". Well that changes everything….

Yes glorydayz, you are so right. The money is rolling in so if that is the Yorks objective then they have achieved it but if winning is their objective?!?!?!

And as you say, the Kyle Shannahan era at the 49ers has followed more or less the Jim Harbough era.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That's your response ? It's ok we gave up 21 points in 7 minutes at the end of the game and put up 0 points to boot in that same time frame (only 10 points in the half) BECAUSE KC did it to Tennessee and Houston ?!

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I didn't say it was 'ok'. What I intimated was that a 10 point lead against that team with 7 minutes left didn't put us anywhere near an 'unlosable' situation because of what that team was capable of. We saw it time and time again.

That's what you responded to in case you're confused. The idea that this game was 'unlosable'.

what's funny is they want to ignore actual facts.. the KC team was bad ass that year

"Bad ass". Interesting take. We gave up a 10 point lead with half a quarter left in the Super Bowl to KC because they were "bad ass that year". Well that changes everything….

yeah lets pretend KC wasn't s**t, especially that playoff run.. to make a shiitty take

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
yeah lets pretend KC wasn't s**t, especially that playoff run.. to make a shiitty take

They only came back from big deficits multiple times

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That's your response ? It's ok we gave up 21 points in 7 minutes at the end of the game and put up 0 points to boot in that same time frame (only 10 points in the half) BECAUSE KC did it to Tennessee and Houston ?!

I didn't say it was 'ok'. What I intimated was that a 10 point lead against that team with 7 minutes left didn't put us anywhere near an 'unlosable' situation because of what that team was capable of. We saw it time and time again.

That's what you responded to in case you're confused. The idea that this game was 'unlosable'.

+ Show all quotes what's funny is they want to ignore actual facts.. the KC team was bad ass that year

"Bad ass". Interesting take. We gave up a 10 point lead with half a quarter left in the Super Bowl to KC because they were "bad ass that year". Well that changes everything….

yeah lets pretend KC wasn't s**t, especially that playoff run.. to make a shiitty take

Any team that makes a Superbowl isn't s**t

You are doing a lot of reverse engineering of history here.

We had our chance being 10 points up and uber conservative Kyle blew that chance

like he has blown all other ones he has been involved in at Superbowls.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Insult is ignorance. When you get close to the truth, the first thing that you learn is that other people will abuse you.

Troll comment is a troll comment. You're at the point where you have to making up stuff to continue a dumb pointless debate.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They only came back from big deficits multiple times

Erased a 24 point deficit and took a 4 point lead in 11 minutes. Yet our 10 point lead was 'unlosable', lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Insult is ignorance. When you get close to the truth, the first thing that you learn is that other people will abuse you.

Troll comment is a troll comment. You're at the point where you have to making up stuff to continue a dumb pointless debate.

The debate is the essence of who the San Francisco 49ers are. What does Troll even mean in the post fact checking era? Its just an opinion and you have your opinion so I could call you names. Being called a Troll or a Racist or a toxic man or anything is totally meaningless in today's modern society because the terms have been abused so much online by people who simply don't like someone else's opinion. Everything is meaningless now.

In a thousand years time, future historians will fire up an old archaic PC and use an ancient way of communicating called the internet to use this site to try and find out a bit about humans in the year 2025 and they will read the Kyle Shanahan thread and conclude that the people of the era were insane. Because of the meaningless hours that they spent online saying nothing!

In a thousand years time no one will remember who you or I or anyone else is and our whole existence will be just a few specks of dust.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That's your response ? It's ok we gave up 21 points in 7 minutes at the end of the game and put up 0 points to boot in that same time frame (only 10 points in the half) BECAUSE KC did it to Tennessee and Houston ?!

I didn't say it was 'ok'. What I intimated was that a 10 point lead against that team with 7 minutes left didn't put us anywhere near an 'unlosable' situation because of what that team was capable of. We saw it time and time again.

That's what you responded to in case you're confused. The idea that this game was 'unlosable'.

what's funny is they want to ignore actual facts.. the KC team was bad ass that year

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"Bad ass". Interesting take. We gave up a 10 point lead with half a quarter left in the Super Bowl to KC because they were "bad ass that year". Well that changes everything….

yeah lets pretend KC wasn't s**t, especially that playoff run.. to make a shiitty take

Any team that makes a Superbowl isn't s**t

You are doing a lot of reverse engineering of history here.

We had our chance being 10 points up and uber conservative Kyle blew that chance

like he has blown all other ones he has been involved in at Superbowls.

like i said before, you don't know what conservative means lol

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes glorydayz, you are so right. The money is rolling in so if that is the Yorks objective then they have achieved it but if winning is their objective?!?!?!

And as you say, the Kyle Shannahan era at the 49ers has followed more or less the Jim Harbough era.

They are trying to leave the football to the football guys, but in doing so the football guys start feeling powerful.

No matter the success, the football guys always felt the pressure of Eddie D. The pressure to win was always there and when he walked in the room there was no mistaking who had the power. Eddie D was a motivator and a shot caller and he had a profound effect on the football department as well as the business operations.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Agree... But his players continually failed. You think it's coincidence. I think it's a reflection of coaching. As I've said his players have a history of not making basic plays. Eventually that leads back to lack of coaching and lack of mental acuity.

So what about Tomlin? Dude hasn't won a SB since 2008 and that wasn't even his team. How about Harbs. He's about to have a 3x mvp at QB and nothing to show for it. they've continually failed for well over a decade with HOF QBs.

how about LaFleur? Had a 2X MVP QB snd had only found a way to lose. Outside of one McVay win (after scoring 3 pts in the first SB) and some dumb Philly special all the same supers bowls this past decade have been won by two QBs. Why is that? Why is EVERY other coach finding a way to loose except them?

like I said you're complaining lacks perspective.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That's your response ? It's ok we gave up 21 points in 7 minutes at the end of the game and put up 0 points to boot in that same time frame (only 10 points in the half) BECAUSE KC did it to Tennessee and Houston ?!

I didn't say it was 'ok'. What I intimated was that a 10 point lead against that team with 7 minutes left didn't put us anywhere near an 'unlosable' situation because of what that team was capable of. We saw it time and time again.

That's what you responded to in case you're confused. The idea that this game was 'unlosable'.

what's funny is they want to ignore actual facts.. the KC team was bad ass that year

"Bad ass". Interesting take. We gave up a 10 point lead with half a quarter left in the Super Bowl to KC because they were "bad ass that year". Well that changes everything….

+ Show all quotes yeah lets pretend KC wasn't s**t, especially that playoff run.. to make a shiitty take

Any team that makes a Superbowl isn't s**t

You are doing a lot of reverse engineering of history here.

We had our chance being 10 points up and uber conservative Kyle blew that chance

like he has blown all other ones he has been involved in at Superbowls.

like i said before, you don't know what conservative means lol

I know what conservative means when it comes to a football head coach giving his quarterback and offensive players the instructions to not make mistakes and therefore not try and score which is what Kyle has done a number of times in big games including Super bowls

Originally posted by glorydayz:
They are trying to leave the football to the football guys, but in doing so the football guys start feeling powerful.

No matter the success, the football guys always felt the pressure of Eddie D. The pressure to win was always there and when he walked in the room there was no mistaking who had the power. Eddie D was a motivator and a shot caller and he had a profound effect on the football department as well as the business operations.

Jed the guy who fired 3 HCs in 3 yrs? Dude spends more cash than damn near everyone.