49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Agree... But his players continually failed. You think it's coincidence. I think it's a reflection of coaching. As I've said his players have a history of not making basic plays. Eventually that leads back to lack of coaching and lack of mental acuity.

So what about Tomlin? Dude hasn't won a SB since 2008 and that wasn't even his team. How about Harbs. He's about to have a 3x mvp at QB and nothing to show for it. they've continually failed for well over a decade with HOF QBs.

how about LaFleur? Had a 2X MVP QB snd had only found a way to lose. Outside of one McVay win (after scoring 3 pts in the first SB) and some dumb Philly special all the same supers bowls this past decade have been won by two QBs. Why is that? Why is EVERY other coach finding a way to loose except them?

like I said you're complaining lacks perspective.

No matter how we slice it, those guys have rings.

Everyone else is guessing, while some guys have that winning formula. We used to have that here and it was created by Eddie D & Bill Walsh.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
They are trying to leave the football to the football guys, but in doing so the football guys start feeling powerful.

No matter the success, the football guys always felt the pressure of Eddie D. The pressure to win was always there and when he walked in the room there was no mistaking who had the power. Eddie D was a motivator and a shot caller and he had a profound effect on the football department as well as the business operations.

Jed the guy who fired 3 HCs in 3 yrs? Dude spends more cash than damn near everyone.

Are people still saying Jed is cheap.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The debate is the essence of who the San Francisco 49ers are. What does Troll even mean in the post fact checking era? Its just an opinion and you have your opinion so I could call you names. Being called a Troll or a Racist or a toxic man or anything is totally meaningless in today's modern society because the terms have been abused so much online by people who simply don't like someone else's opinion. Everything is meaningless now.

In a thousand years time, future historians will fire up an old archaic PC and use an ancient way of communicating called the internet to use this site to try and find out a bit about humans in the year 2025 and they will read the Kyle Shanahan thread and conclude that the people of the era were insane. Because of the meaningless hours that they spent online saying nothing!

In a thousand years time no one will remember who you or I or anyone else is and our whole existence will be just a few specks of dust.

What fact are talking about? You making s**t up lol. You can't even have a legit objective conversation about it. You don't even know what you arguing about. It's babbling nonsense and I've wasted enough time trying to talk to you

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes glorydayz, you are so right. The money is rolling in so if that is the Yorks objective then they have achieved it but if winning is their objective?!?!?!

And as you say, the Kyle Shannahan era at the 49ers has followed more or less the Jim Harbough era.

They are trying to leave the football to the football guys, but in doing so the football guys start feeling powerful.

No matter the success, the football guys always felt the pressure of Eddie D. The pressure to win was always there and when he walked in the room there was no mistaking who had the power. Eddie D was a motivator and a shot caller and he had a profound effect on the football department as well as the business operations.

I mean you are so right.

Eddie Debartolo put so much pressure on Bill Walsh, that the greatest head coach ever retired after an unexpected Superbowl win.

Bill Walsh in tears in his sons' arms after beating Cincinnati because Eddie De Bartolo had been so hard on him the year before when 14-2 San Francisco 49ers were beaten by the Minnesota Vikings in the first round of the play offs.

These days there are 20 different branches of the HR department, and the owners would barely get a chance to say boo to the head coach mmuch less interrogate him about every play after every game.

Kyle Shannahan is the power of the current San Francisco 49ers, and he loves it and everyone else, including the owners, better get out of his way.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
They are trying to leave the football to the football guys, but in doing so the football guys start feeling powerful.

No matter the success, the football guys always felt the pressure of Eddie D. The pressure to win was always there and when he walked in the room there was no mistaking who had the power. Eddie D was a motivator and a shot caller and he had a profound effect on the football department as well as the business operations.

Jed the guy who fired 3 HCs in 3 yrs? Dude spends more cash than damn near everyone.

Are people still saying Jed is cheap.

We do tend to spend a lot on mistakes.

Eddie D being such a dick that he made arguably the greatest HC ever retire is not a thing to be praised

Originally posted by glorydayz:
No matter how we slice it, those guys have rings.

Everyone else is guessing, while some guys have that winning formula. We used to have that here and it was created by Eddie D & Bill Walsh.

Who cares about rings from over 15 yrs ago and 12 yrs ago? So you telling me if Kyle won one more game he gets to be untouchable and can't be criticized for the rest of his football career? He has a winning formula even though he hasn't won in over 15 yrs lol? Nah that just shows you how for damn hard it is to win it all.

According to you they haven't won s**t in forever and that's with one guy being given a HOF QB and the other has a likely 3x MVP.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We do tend to spend a lot on mistakes.

Just like every damn team. Grow up and look around

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Eddie D being such a dick that he made arguably the greatest HC ever retire is not a thing to be praised

Thats what constant pressure will do to you, it's all about results. Did you notice that same coach (Bill Walsh) came back to run the football operations??

Eddie D was a winner, didn't give a **** about hurting someones feelings. Not everyone is cut out to be a winner.

Bill Walsh was wired the same way, it was his way or his way! These guys shaped really tough men, guys would cut their fingers off for these leaders. The results speak for themselves.

Jed & Kyle are nice guys?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
The debate is the essence of who the San Francisco 49ers are. What does Troll even mean in the post fact checking era? Its just an opinion and you have your opinion so I could call you names. Being called a Troll or a Racist or a toxic man or anything is totally meaningless in today's modern society because the terms have been abused so much online by people who simply don't like someone else's opinion. Everything is meaningless now.

In a thousand years time, future historians will fire up an old archaic PC and use an ancient way of communicating called the internet to use this site to try and find out a bit about humans in the year 2025 and they will read the Kyle Shanahan thread and conclude that the people of the era were insane. Because of the meaningless hours that they spent online saying nothing!

In a thousand years time no one will remember who you or I or anyone else is and our whole existence will be just a few specks of dust.

What fact are talking about? You making s**t up lol. You can't even have a legit objective conversation about it. You don't even know what you arguing about. It's babbling nonsense and I've wasted enough time trying to talk to you

Im not making s**t up.

I'm examining in detail a number of things

A) Why Kyle Shannahan can't win Superbowls

B) Why we had such a s**t season at 6-11 last year

C) Why Kyle Shannahan has so much power at the San Francisco 49ers.

D) Why do Kyle Shannahan teams have such huge fade outs in the last quarter of games while they are leading

E) How does the San Francisco 49ers get back to being perennially competitive again next year

Eddie Debartolo always said to the press that all he wanted was for the San Francisco 49ers to be perennially competitive but what he really meant was he wanted to win the Superbowl...every year!

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Eddie D being such a dick that he made arguably the greatest HC ever retire is not a thing to be praised

Folks are mad at losing SBs while 80% of the league is mad if they don't make the playoffs or lose in the 1st rd. Folks lack perspective

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Eddie D being such a dick that he made arguably the greatest HC ever retire is not a thing to be praised

Maybe that's why those teams won and the current team losses

It's a fine line between pleasure and pain.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
No matter how we slice it, those guys have rings.

Everyone else is guessing, while some guys have that winning formula. We used to have that here and it was created by Eddie D & Bill Walsh.

Who cares about rings from over 15 yrs ago and 12 yrs ago? So you telling me if Kyle won one more game he gets to be untouchable and can't be criticized for the rest of his football career? He has a winning formula even though he hasn't won in over 15 yrs lol? Nah that just shows you how for damn hard it is to win it all.

According to you they haven't won s**t in forever and that's with one guy being given a HOF QB and the other has a likely 3x MVP.

You do realize we are a 5X Super Bowl Champion don't you? Believe it or not we didn't start playing football in the 2000's.

Who care's? Why do our fans still take photo's in front of that case holding those 5 Lombardi trophies from over 30 years ago?

You can't take a super bowl championship away from anyone who has won it.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Thats what constant pressure will do to you, it's all about results. Did you notice that same coach (Bill Walsh) came back to run the football operations??

Eddie D was a winner, didn't give a **** about hurting someones feelings. Not everyone is cut out to be a winner.

Bill Walsh was wired the same way, it was his way or his way! These guys shaped really tough men, guys would cut their fingers off for these leaders. The results speak for themselves.

Jed & Kyle are nice guys?

He came back after Eddie was gone. Wouldn't have come back for Eddie.

Bill Walsh was the winner. He built Camelot. Eddie just signed the checks.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You do realize we are a 5X Super Bowl Champion don't you? Believe it or not we didn't start playing football in the 2000's.

Who care's? Why do our fans still take photo's in front of that case holding those 5 Lombardi trophies from over 30 years ago?

You can't take a super bowl championship away from anyone who has won it.

Clearly dodge my questions for obvious reasons