49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Afrikan:
He's never had a losing season, even when dealing with QB injuries. 🤷🏾‍♂

2007 - (10-7) - WC (L) vs Jacksonville
2008 - (12-4) - Div. Rd. (W) vs SD; AFCCG (W) vs. Baltimore; SB (W) vs. Arizona
2009 - (9-7) - Missed Playoffs
2010 - (12-4) - Div. Rd. (W) vs. Baltimore; AFCCG (W) vs. NYJ; SB (L) vs. GB
2011 - (12-4) - Div. Rd. (OTL) vs. Denver
2012 - (8-8) - Missed Playoffs
2013 - (8-8) - Missed Playoffs
2014 - (11-5) - WC (L) vs. Baltimore
2015 - (10-6) - WC (W) vs. Cincinnati; Div. Rd. (L) vs. Denver
2016 - (11-5) - WC (W) vs. Miami; Div. Rd. (W) vs. KC; AFCCG (L) vs. NE
2017 - (13-3) - Div. Rd. (L) vs. Jacksonville
2018 - (9-6-1) - Missed Playoffs
2019 - (8-8) - Missed Playoffs
2020 - (12-4) - WC (L) vs. Cleveland
2021 - (9-7-1) - WC (L) vs. KC
2022 - (9-8) - Missed Playoffs
2023 - (10-7) - WC (L) vs. Buffalo
2024 - (10-7) - WC (L) vs. Baltimore

His starting QBs over those years...

Ben Roethlisberger (2007-2021)
Charlie Batch (2007-2012)
Dennis Dixon (2008-2010)
Byron Leftwich (2008, 2010-2012)
Michael Vick (2015)
Landry Jones (2015-2017)
Mason Rudolph (2019-2023)
Devlin Hodges (2019)
Mitchell Trubisky (2022-2023)
Kenny Pickett (2022-2023)
Russell Wilson (2024)
Justin Fields (2024)

Like I said before, I'd blame him more for settling for bad to mediocre QBs. But it's not like good, to great, starting QBs become available. So best bet is to find one in the draft.

He was just talked about a few posts either (very strangely) Baker Mayfield just threw for 41 TDs and was available for Pittsburgh to sign. They went in another direction.

Tomlin is a good coach, good enough that he's had some truly crazy ass players that the general public didn't realize just how crazy they were until they escaped containment in Pittsburgh. On the other hand, if you think Kyle is conservative, well Tomlin takes it to another level. Tomlin is good enough to produce a team that wins games consistently but he hasn't won a playoff game in nearly a decade and most of those playoff losses have been blowouts.

He also doesn't seem to produce top notch coaching staffs. Their SB winning year he had Bruce Arians as OC and Dick LeBeau as DC, both who were already well established in their roles. Since they've left, he's struggled with filling those positions with worthwhile coordinators. As far as I can tell, not a single original Tomlin assistant has become an NFL HC.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Kyle is not on the same level of Tomlin. MT has a ring and has been a successful head coach with his initial team for almost 20 years!

He won a SB early in his career which showed his head coaching skills. He has lost a lot of great players and coaches along the way and yet he is still getting his team to the playoffs every year.

Our boy wonder is still learning the rules (SB overtime & process for hiring a coordinator). Lost a few of his coaches and can't seem to get it right.

Tomlin has been a HC for a decade longer than Kyle, yet he and Kyle have the exact same number of playoff wins. Since 2011, Tomlin's playoff record is 3-9.


As far losing coaches, not a single assistant under Tomlin that wasn't already on the staff before he got there has gone on to become an NFL HC, not one. In almost 20 years as a HC, that's kind of crazy. Kind of odd to argue that he's "losing coaches" when its all guys that no one else seems to want to hire.

What makes us any different than Pittsburgh or Dallas even? Winning with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Being fine with above average sucks.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Mike Tomlin hasn't wont a playoff game in 8 years and still has more playoff wins over Reid than Kyle as a HC.

I saw a meme that said Dan Quinn was HC of the Falcons for 5 years, took the falcons to the SB, got fired by the falcons, served 3 years as DC for the cowboys, got hired by Washington as HC, won a playoff game for the commanders before Tomlin won his last playoff game lulz

What has Tomlin done, but a few playoff wins early then a bunch of first round exits ever since. I don't know, maybe my history is wrong.

Just won a Super Bowl. No biggy. Shanahan has done more…

I'm sorry, my history is wrong. He did win one in his first few years there, but he's been riding those coattails ever since.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
What makes us any different than Pittsburgh or Dallas even? Winning with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Being fine with above average sucks.

To summarize the thinking in this thread, we lose better than them. They lose in WCs and divisionals, we one up them by losing NFCC and SBs. Eat that Tomlin !

Originally posted by DrEll:
To summarize the thinking in this thread, we lose better than them. They lose in WCs and divisionals, we one up them by losing NFCC and SBs. Eat that Tomlin !

Let's fire Kyle for Doug Pederson then. All problems are fixed.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
What makes us any different than Pittsburgh or Dallas even?

Winning playoff games and making it to SBs. I'd much rather that then either going 8-8 or making it to the playoffs and getting blown out in the first game every year. But you do you.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
What makes us any different than Pittsburgh or Dallas even? Winning with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Being fine with above average sucks.

To summarize the thinking in this thread, we lose better than them. They lose in WCs and divisionals, we one up them by losing NFCC and SBs. Eat that Tomlin !

Obviously the goal for every team to win the Super Bowl. Children know this. It's also obvious that making it to a conference championship game is considered to be more successful than going one and done. Seriously, this isn't that difficult to understand. Your reasoning is basically "fan" reasoning, or for people who play too much Madden.

Originally posted by BP13:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
What makes us any different than Pittsburgh or Dallas even? Winning with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Being fine with above average sucks.
To summarize the thinking in this thread, we lose better than them. They lose in WCs and divisionals, we one up them by losing NFCC and SBs. Eat that Tomlin !
Obviously the goal for every team to win the Super Bowl. Children know this. It's also obvious that making it to a conference championship game is considered to be more successful than going one and done. Seriously, this isn't that difficult to understand. Your reasoning is basically "fan" reasoning, or for people who play too much Madden.

Fans like DrEll are crazy, man. I'm convinced he's a closet Jaguars/Lions/Browns/Texans fan who tells himself "it's okay that we've never been to a Super Bowl because then we can't LOSE one! And LOSING a Super Bowl is basically worse than 0-16 in terms of legacy points!" Every time his team gets eliminated every season, he probably tells himself "We did it! We didn't LOSE a Super Bowl this season! 😇"

By his logic, Brady is basically the second worst QB of all time because he LOST three Super Bowls. Nobody has done that other than Jim Kelly! Brady is a LOSER! I want WINNERS!!

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Mike Tomlin hasn't wont a playoff game in 8 years and still has more playoff wins over Reid than Kyle as a HC.

I saw a meme that said Dan Quinn was HC of the Falcons for 5 years, took the falcons to the SB, got fired by the falcons, served 3 years as DC for the cowboys, got hired by Washington as HC, won a playoff game for the commanders before Tomlin won his last playoff game lulz

What has Tomlin done, but a few playoff wins early then a bunch of first round exits ever since. I don't know, maybe my history is wrong.

Just won a Super Bowl. No biggy. Shanahan has done more…

He won a SB with bill Cowher's team lol…and that was over 15 yrs ago,

so you're telling me Kyle could win a SB next yr, be the HC for the next 15+ yrs and go the last 8 yrs not winning a single playoff game and you're gonna go around saying how great of a HC is he because of something that happened a decade and a half ago?

🤣

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Mike Tomlin hasn't wont a playoff game in 8 years and still has more playoff wins over Reid than Kyle as a HC.

I saw a meme that said Dan Quinn was HC of the Falcons for 5 years, took the falcons to the SB, got fired by the falcons, served 3 years as DC for the cowboys, got hired by Washington as HC, won a playoff game for the commanders before Tomlin won his last playoff game lulz

What has Tomlin done, but a few playoff wins early then a bunch of first round exits ever since. I don't know, maybe my history is wrong.

Just won a Super Bowl. No biggy. Shanahan has done more…

He won a SB with bill Cowher's team lol…and that was over 15 yrs ago,

so you're telling me Kyle could win a SB next yr, be the HC for the next 15+ yrs and go the last 8 yrs not winning a single playoff game and you're gonna go around saying how great of a HC is he because of something that happened a decade and a half ago?

🤣

that is all I care about. everything after that is fluff, and can be debated at a later date. my preliminary answer: if Kyle had won in 2019, I would be against firing him.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
To summarize the thinking in this thread, we lose better than them. They lose in WCs and divisionals, we one up them by losing NFCC and SBs. Eat that Tomlin !

Let's fire Kyle for Doug Pederson then. All problems are fixed.

Or Ben Johnson

Originally posted by DrEll:
that is all I care about. everything after that is fluff, and can be debated at a later date. my preliminary answer: if Kyle had won in 2019, I would be against firing him.

So fire Kyle for Doug Pederson right?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Mike Tomlin hasn't wont a playoff game in 8 years and still has more playoff wins over Reid than Kyle as a HC.

I saw a meme that said Dan Quinn was HC of the Falcons for 5 years, took the falcons to the SB, got fired by the falcons, served 3 years as DC for the cowboys, got hired by Washington as HC, won a playoff game for the commanders before Tomlin won his last playoff game lulz

What has Tomlin done, but a few playoff wins early then a bunch of first round exits ever since. I don't know, maybe my history is wrong.

Just won a Super Bowl. No biggy. Shanahan has done more…

He won a SB with bill Cowher's team lol…and that was over 15 yrs ago,

so you're telling me Kyle could win a SB next yr, be the HC for the next 15+ yrs and go the last 8 yrs not winning a single playoff game and you're gonna go around saying how great of a HC is he because of something that happened a decade and a half ago?

🤣

Getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing counts as negative legacy points. Literally worse than 0-16.

Winning one Super Bowl means you're a GOAT for life.

Now, don't get me started on if you win one AND lose one, but based on what this guy said about Brady it sounds like the loss cancels out the win. But not for Sean McVay, of course.

It's confusing, contradictory, and quite nonsensical, I know. But it's science. Don't argue with it!