Replacing the Strength and Conditioning Staff

About time....

Finally got rid of the guys that appeared with kyle and John . Thank God for small favors. This Turley gent at Stanford really sounds interesting.

Nutrition...possibly why our guys can''t make it to end of games?

Training, esp weights can be done well or poorly. We are interested in strength and longevity of that strength. I'm not up on this stuff but there is a new world out there in S and C, and it sounds like that guy at Stanford has it down. Love to see him interview and see if we could interest him. We've had inadequate S & C for a long time. I'm ready for some avant-garde help in S& C.

Originally posted by jcs:

About time....

This

Originally posted by NCommand:

And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.


Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.



Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

Originally posted by zonkers:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
We have access to stanford's medical facility. Why are we so bad at keeping our guys healthy?

couple of things:

Injuries will likely regress to the mean and the new S&C coach will get the credit. Understand the move, but it's not as if the 49ers injuries were wildly outside of the norm. https://t.co/FwBhKfPmEY

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) January 4, 2019

Another note: This 49ers' strength coach change is very likely only partly because of injuries (which Shanahan and Lynch both believe are mostly random).

A significant impetus here may be the 49ers' perceived inability to physically finish some games as strong as possible.

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 4, 2019

That's another point too. Guys getting gassed so easily and dominated late in games.

Maybe the gassed part would explain the bad angles, bad form, and not attacking the ball.
Also, a lot of the front seven seem kind of light and cut, even though none of them are really about speed and agility. They might be better off training for more power and explosion.

Aaron Donald says "hello."

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

I would assume our doctors would be good because of the region. Having access to Stanford and UCSF is huge, not to mention we have the airport hub which gives us access to any doctor in the world.

I bet NFL caliber sports medicine is great across the board, can you imagine what the league pays in order to keep these athletes on the field?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

I would assume our doctors would be good because of the region. Having access to Stanford and UCSF is huge, not to mention we have the airport hub which gives us access to any doctor in the world.

I bet NFL caliber sports medicine is great across the board, can you imagine what the league pays in order to keep these athletes on the field?

I mean teams aren't hiring guys with a degree from the University of Guam Medical School.


Look at each team doctor and pretty much every single one is a heavyweight. These aren't just doctors who treat patients, they are heavily involved in research and are leaders in their respective fields.



I find it far easier to believe that dumb luck, playing surfaces, irregular offseason training approaches and subpar strength and conditioning approaches are more likely to blame for injury troubles than poor medical treatment.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by zonkers:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
We have access to stanford's medical facility. Why are we so bad at keeping our guys healthy?

couple of things:

Injuries will likely regress to the mean and the new S&C coach will get the credit. Understand the move, but it's not as if the 49ers injuries were wildly outside of the norm. https://t.co/FwBhKfPmEY

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) January 4, 2019

Another note: This 49ers' strength coach change is very likely only partly because of injuries (which Shanahan and Lynch both believe are mostly random).

A significant impetus here may be the 49ers' perceived inability to physically finish some games as strong as possible.

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 4, 2019

That's another point too. Guys getting gassed so easily and dominated late in games.

Maybe the gassed part would explain the bad angles, bad form, and not attacking the ball.
Also, a lot of the front seven seem kind of light and cut, even though none of them are really about speed and agility. They might be better off training for more power and explosion.

Aaron Donald says "hello."

If only it were true for Solomon Thomas.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.


Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.



Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex's shoulder, to Foster's shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the blue tent once. Pathetic.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex' shoulder, to Fosters shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the tent. Pathetic.

Alex...foster...armstead.....goodwin...

our doctors don't care bout no mediocre players

really though, did we have many injuries during the harbaugh superbowl time? think we had the same team doctors but different training staff obviously

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex's shoulder, to Foster's shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the blue tent once. Pathetic.

Misdiagnosing Jets knee as a muscle strain...the list goes on. We also know KS did his own research with information that wasn't available or reported by the media and who knows how damning that list of blunders is.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I would assume our doctors would be good because of the region. Having access to Stanford and UCSF is huge, not to mention we have the airport hub which gives us access to any doctor in the world.

I bet NFL caliber sports medicine is great across the board, can you imagine what the league pays in order to keep these athletes on the field?

I mean teams aren't hiring guys with a degree from the University of Guam Medical School.

Look at each team doctor and pretty much every single one is a heavyweight. These aren't just doctors who treat patients, they are heavily involved in research and are leaders in their respective fields.

I find it far easier to believe that dumb luck, playing surfaces, irregular offseason training approaches and subpar strength and conditioning approaches are more likely to blame for injury troubles than poor medical treatment.

Nature of the sport

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex's shoulder, to Foster's shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the blue tent once. Pathetic.

Misdiagnosing Jets knee as a muscle strain...the list goes on. We also know KS did his own research with information that wasn't available or reported by the media and who knows how damning that list of blunders is.

Seriously. I lost track years ago. I'm just glad Kyle recognized a serious issue. But now he's got go upgrade.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex's shoulder, to Foster's shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the blue tent once. Pathetic.

Misdiagnosing Jets knee as a muscle strain...the list goes on. We also know KS did his own research with information that wasn't available or reported by the media and who knows how damning that list of blunders is.

Seriously. I lost track years ago. I'm just glad Kyle recognized a serious issue. But now he's got go upgrade.

Once the Warriors finally did this, they turned the corner and started winning championships. Just saying.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

And the team MD's might be the worst on the planet.

The teams MDs are some of the best doctors on the planet. You're talking about ridiculously overqualified people with resumes as long as the Magna Carta.

Fans like to point and blame things on the simplest factors possible. Its hard to buy that the team physician who received an award from the NFL for his cutting edge research into optimizing player health and improving injury recovery outcomes is just suddenly clueless when it comes to this team.

Realistically its more a combination of poor luck and some issues with the training staff overall than elite Stanford doctors who are amongst the leaders in their respective fields becoming temporarily incompetent. These same doctors treat elite athletes across a wide variety of sports, including those going to the Olympics.

They suck ass. From Alex's shoulder, to Foster's shoulder, Armstead's shoulder, concussions...they all f**king suck or have a team agenda. I saw Goodwin get two hits (concussions) this year in one game and he never visited the blue tent once. Pathetic.

Misdiagnosing Jets knee as a muscle strain...the list goes on. We also know KS did his own research with information that wasn't available or reported by the media and who knows how damning that list of blunders is.

Seriously. I lost track years ago. I'm just glad Kyle recognized a serious issue. But now he's got go upgrade.

Didn't Kap question his injury diagnosis also?
Their are more.

Obviously their is a disconnect somewhere.