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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Everyone wants Allen, but no one talking about Carlos Watkins who had 10.5 sacks this past year. I would trade Dial for a 7th round pick to make room for Watkins.

Would love Watkins...was a big fan of him this yr. there are some great DT in this draft. I like Mitchell as a vet and drafting someone in the mid rds

Me too, and they have a solid front seven. Honestly I think that freshman I forgot his name but the kid is like 6'5" 330 pounds, helped a lot with Watkins. But overall that just goes to show what Watkins can do if you give him some help!!
I think Lynch/Shanahan are going to make a bunch of these types of signings, to not only improve at our positions, but also help clear out most of the current roster we have. Most new regimes, like to have the roster filled with their acquisitions, and shed most of the old regimes players. I see a bunch of our ok players being moved for what ever we can get for them, no matter how small the return. Guys like Brock+Tank+Harold+Martin+ any others that might need a change of scenery. Also by moving those guys, we can take their cap hits now, no matter how big or small they are, and move on with our new players and draft assets.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
That's what worries me. We overpaid for essentially a rotational player who is going to be a starter.

Some have mentioned he has been poor against the run in Miami because of the Wide 9 scheme they run. So hopefully I am wrong and he excels here. I don't think paying for another NT in FA is a smart strategy.

We spent a million more than the Broncos we're gonna pay, that's not a lot man. And guess what we're gonna have to overspend for every FA we bring in for a while
I don't get the people criticising this signing.

He's a good rotational player to regular starter and people criticise us for spending on him. News Flash: when FA starts there's no guarantee we could sign Poe or Williams. You don't pass up on a roster improvement now because you might get in a bidding war later and lose out.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Hopefully this doesn't mean they are not going to go after some of the top tier FA DL guys

I think it's just a depth signing. I really want Dontari Poe. He'd be a nice fit to go alongside Dorsey or Dial.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Hopefully this doesn't mean they are not going to go after some of the top tier FA DL guys

I think it's just a depth signing. I really want Dontari Poe. He'd be a nice fit to go alongside Dorsey or Dial.

You don't pay a guy $4M per to be a backup.
Originally posted by Buchy:
I don't get the people criticising this signing.

He's a good rotational player to regular starter and people criticise us for spending on him. News Flash: when FA starts there's no guarantee we could sign Poe or Williams. You don't pass up on a roster improvement now because you might get in a bidding war later and lose out.

Not every signing is a big name. This is a team transitioning coaching staff and defensive scheme so they'll need new players to fill new roles. So what. At 16 over 4-5 years he's not hurting the team or the cap. The 5.7 figure is to front load the deal because we have 100 million in space, nothing more.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Feb 25, 2017 at 11:22 AM ]
  • thl408
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Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Buchy:
I don't get the people criticising this signing.

He's a good rotational player to regular starter and people criticise us for spending on him. News Flash: when FA starts there's no guarantee we could sign Poe or Williams. You don't pass up on a roster improvement now because you might get in a bidding war later and lose out.

Not every signing is a big name. This is a team transitioning coaching staff and defensive scheme so they'll need new players to fill new roles. So what. At 16 over 4-5 years he's not hurting the team or the cap. The 5.7 figure is to front load the deal because we have 100 million in space, nothing more.
Yup, agreed. Easy to front load this deal a bit to protect the cap two/three years later. The 49ers having the most cap space out of EM's suitors (DEN/ATL/SEA) allowed them to easily do the front loading.

Agree with those saying that waiting to try and get into a bidding war for Poe/Williams is a dangerous risk. There's some young talent on the DL that needs to develop. Nail down the 1t now and get into a bidding war for other positions (WR, OL). EM isn't on Poe's level, but he should be sufficient in that role as we wait for DeFo/AA to mature. Those are the guys (Blair) the 49ers need to depend on to be their DL studs. EM will be the "steady vet".

Been watching some tape on this guy and I'd guesstimate that 80% of the time he is playing 1tech. Suh obviously dominates the snaps at 3t for MIA. Pretty sure EM's going to be playing 1tech the majority of downs for the 49ers. When he's doubled, he's done. When he's singled, he plays with good leverage and easily holds his own. Put a nice bull jerk move on Beadles in their game last season.
John Lynch on signing Mitchell:

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/25/john-lynch-on-new-d-lineman-he-represents-everything-we-want-to-be/

"Earl is a tone-setter who plays the game with a tremendous passion and the effort necessary to win in this league. We believe those qualities are contagious and will help to make our team stronger. We look forward to the impact Earl will have on the field, in the locker room and in our community."

I had a feeling that that was one of the things that attracted Lynch to signing Mitchell. Jed said he wanted to change the culture and both Lynch and Shanahan have said pretty much the same thing so I think this is going to be a common theme in the FA signings and draft.
  • PGENZ
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Mitchell: Got offers from Denver and Seattle.

According to @ninersnation
[ Edited by PGENZ on Feb 25, 2017 at 11:46 AM ]
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"I could tell they're building a family type of environment & that's something I wanted to be part of. -@EarlMitchell90 on joining #49ers
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
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"I could tell they're building a family type of environment & that's something I wanted to be part of. -@EarlMitchell90 on joining #49ers

Love it.
  • thl408
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Originally posted by PGENZ:
Mitchell: Got offers from Denver and Seattle.

According to @ninersnation

Vance Joseph (DEN head coach) just came over from MIA so he has had very recent interaction with Mitchell. That's a good sign of Mitchell's recent ability.
Love it. This is a good sign.

I'm going to sound old here- but I wouldn't mind us drafting Allen and seeing the middle blown the hell up like Young and Stubblefield used to do lol
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by PGENZ:
Mitchell: Got offers from Denver and Seattle.

According to @ninersnation

Vance Joseph (DEN head coach) just came over from MIA so he has had very recent interaction with Mitchell. That's a good sign of Mitchell's recent ability.

Yeah, the fact that he wanted him around says something. We definitely need a talented vet on that DL. Between DeFo, AA, and Blair, none of them have more than 2 years experience yet in the NFL.
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