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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Why do you expect him to carry or receive that much? Fullbacks rarely ever do. He's just gonna be doing all the dirty work for us like Pat Dimarco. In 2 years with Shanny he had 20 receptions and 0 carries. So less than a reception a game. And he was a pro bowler in 2015.
Originally posted by thl408:I doubt they paid him that much just to lead block. He should get some plays drawn up to get him the ball. That's not what Shanahan did with DiMarco but he better with Juice to justify that contract. If Juice mainly lead blocks and ends up with 25 catches, that's a waste imo. He can do some good things with the ball in his hands on catches. I'm guessing 35-40 catches. He probably won't get many carries.
Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by StubbyNBY:I agree. I think it's a given he will catch 40-50 passes but I also think he will carry the ball a little more than some people expect. I can see him getting 5-8 carries a game. I am excited about having him on our team and I think he was a heck of a pickup. We had to outspend Buffalo to get him so if we had to overpay a little, so what. We have the cap room and needed a player like Juice in this offense and on the team!
Why do you expect him to carry or receive that much? Fullbacks rarely ever do. He's just gonna be doing all the dirty work for us like Pat Dimarco. In 2 years with Shanny he had 20 receptions and 0 carries. So less than a reception a game. And he was a pro bowler in 2015.
I doubt they paid him that much just to lead block. He should get some plays drawn up to get him the ball. That's not what Shanahan did with DiMarco but he better with Juice to justify that contract. If Juice mainly lead blocks and ends up with 25 catches, that's a waste imo. He can do some good things with the ball in his hands on catches. I'm guessing 35-40 catches. He probably won't get many carries.
Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by StubbyNBY:I agree. I think it's a given he will catch 40-50 passes but I also think he will carry the ball a little more than some people expect. I can see him getting 5-8 carries a game. I am excited about having him on our team and I think he was a heck of a pickup. We had to outspend Buffalo to get him so if we had to overpay a little, so what. We have the cap room and needed a player like Juice in this offense and on the team!
Why do you expect him to carry or receive that much? Fullbacks rarely ever do. He's just gonna be doing all the dirty work for us like Pat Dimarco. In 2 years with Shanny he had 20 receptions and 0 carries. So less than a reception a game. And he was a pro bowler in 2015.
I doubt they paid him that much just to lead block. He should get some plays drawn up to get him the ball. That's not what Shanahan did with DiMarco but he better with Juice to justify that contract. If Juice mainly lead blocks and ends up with 25 catches, that's a waste imo. He can do some good things with the ball in his hands on catches. I'm guessing 35-40 catches. He probably won't get many carries.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by thl408:I doubt they paid him that much just to lead block. He should get some plays drawn up to get him the ball. That's not what Shanahan did with DiMarco but he better with Juice to justify that contract. If Juice mainly lead blocks and ends up with 25 catches, that's a waste imo. He can do some good things with the ball in his hands on catches. I'm guessing 35-40 catches. He probably won't get many carries.
Look for him to used a lot with fb screens
Originally posted by Niners816:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by StubbyNBY:I agree. I think it's a given he will catch 40-50 passes but I also think he will carry the ball a little more than some people expect. I can see him getting 5-8 carries a game. I am excited about having him on our team and I think he was a heck of a pickup. We had to outspend Buffalo to get him so if we had to overpay a little, so what. We have the cap room and needed a player like Juice in this offense and on the team!
Why do you expect him to carry or receive that much? Fullbacks rarely ever do. He's just gonna be doing all the dirty work for us like Pat Dimarco. In 2 years with Shanny he had 20 receptions and 0 carries. So less than a reception a game. And he was a pro bowler in 2015.
I doubt they paid him that much just to lead block. He should get some plays drawn up to get him the ball. That's not what Shanahan did with DiMarco but he better with Juice to justify that contract. If Juice mainly lead blocks and ends up with 25 catches, that's a waste imo. He can do some good things with the ball in his hands on catches. I'm guessing 35-40 catches. He probably won't get many carries.
I think he's gonna be the FB/Big back/H-back type of guy. He will lead block as a fullback in 20/21/22/23 personnel. He can be a big back in 11/12/13 personnel and can be an H-back in twin or 3 TE sets. I think they find a way to get him 40+ catches and at least 25-30 carries this year.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Why do you expect him to carry or receive that much? Fullbacks rarely ever do. He's just gonna be doing all the dirty work for us like Pat Dimarco. In 2 years with Shanny he had 20 receptions and 0 carries. So less than a reception a game. And he was a pro bowler in 2015.
They didnt bring him here to be a pat dimarco.
He will be used more than just a fb
Originally posted by NCommand:Tom Rathman at the height of his career, 5 year period averaged 48 catches. Bar None, 31.
I put the bar for Juice around 40 receptions.
Originally posted by Niners816:Originally posted by NCommand:Tom Rathman at the height of his career, 5 year period averaged 48 catches. Bar None, 31.
I put the bar for Juice around 40 receptions.
At the absolute pinnacle of the FB use in the passing game (Walsh from '83-87 with Roger Craig) we averaged 72 catches a year with the FB.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:It's time to whiz the juice