1st Team All Pro - OW, Kyle "Juice" Juszczyk

Originally posted by mayo49:

f**k the money, this guy reminds me of Rathman.

He's a good player. He's going to be a key component to the success of the running game. When it's all said and done, I think people will be a little more appreciative of his contributions. Not everything shows up in a stat sheet. On that though, it's still quite a bit of football left to play. I think people need to slow the sarcasm on what his role has been or hasn't been thus far.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by susweel:

lol $5 million per year for a lead blocker. smh

For all those people that think the team should have done more in free agency. This is what happens when your team is bad and you chase solid to good players in free agency. You pay them well to play for you.

The majority of the players the team brought in had connections to the coaching staff. We we're lucky to attract the amount we did. Garcon signed when there wasn't even anyone to throw him a football yet. The team will have to continue to draft well to ultimately be successful. That's the nature of professional sports.

He's a good player the problem is shanny is not using him to his potential.

See above post my man.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by susweel:

He's a good player the problem is shanny is not using him to his potential.

Sus, didn't he look like Rathman on that one run?

Yes he's a fine talent but they don't use him.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Why on earth aren't we using this guy more? Had some well-designed plays for him late in the game. We need to see more!

+1 looked good with limited touches.

Might be because he just came out of concussion protocol. Maybe did not want to use him too much the 1st game back.

He's not being used as a 3rd down back like he was in BAL. That's one area where he's not used that has cut into his snapcount. He's also not being used as a TE that I noticed. So basically 21 and 22 personnel is when he's used. I don't see the 49ers using 22, if at all.

Originally posted by mayo49:
f**k the money, this guy reminds me of Rathman.

Very much so.

The real weakness is the OL!

Both Gards and the Center need to be replaced.

Originally posted by susweel:
He's a good player the problem is shanny is not using him to his potential.

There's actually a problem with that. He's has superior talent...for a FB but he has below average talent for a WR or RB or TE. Can't use him as a primary OW because of that. Good at everything but master of none: he can be easily covered if a defense keys on him. And that is why you don't overpay FBs unless you have a 250 pound player who can run a 4.4 forty which would essentially make him a RB.

The prized free agent fullback. Lol

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The prized free agent fullback. Lol

yes. on offense he was our prize and jr has no clue what to do with him.. on defense the prize was overpaying for malcom smith who was hurt.....

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by susweel:

lol $5 million per year for a lead blocker. smh

For all those people that think the team should have done more in free agency. This is what happens when your team is bad and you chase solid to good players in free agency. You pay them well to play for you.

The majority of the players the team brought in had connections to the coaching staff. We we're lucky to attract the amount we did. Garcon signed when there wasn't even anyone to throw him a football yet. The team will have to continue to draft well to ultimately be successful. That's the nature of professional sports.

Lol, right?

The crybaby committee cries about us not bringing enough free agents in then others cry about paying free agents too much.

These people are just looking for reasons to cry and complain.

I see no reason to crywank at the moment. Most reasonable 49er fans knew we wouldn't be winning 6 to 9 games. I had us at four wins this year and that's still possible. Heck, I won't mind if we only win two so long as many games are competitive. We really do need a good draft spot if we're going to address the QB situation early in the draft. QB is by far our biggest need and the 2018 draft has some good passers. Same with free agency.

We've been very competitive three of our four games thus far. One of the crywankers even said we were "more competitive" last year. I don't even know what they're watching. I'm not sure they even know what they're watching.

The passing game has been bad 3 of 4 games, yes, this is largley on Hoyer, blocking and drops. Not Juice or Garcon (our major offensive free agent contracts) and not on the play design- our failures have been due to a lack of talent. You just can't fix the lack of talent in one draft. They chose to address defense early in the 2017 draft. We had a historically bad defense going into the draft. We will most likley address offense early in the 2018 draft.


The person you quoted is probably angry because we didn't draft his QB crush and or he wanted a different HC. Nothing short of 4-0 with a top 10 offense would shut him up. Most of us knew Hoyer was a one year guy while we find our FQB in either Cousins or an early 2018 pick. Only reason Hoyer was brought here was to help teach everyone the new offense. Lynch and Shanahan can't just come out and say that yet it was still obvious to most of us.

Non-stop gloating about how "bad" we are this early in a TOTAL rebuild only makes one look childish or jaded with some sort of axe to grind.

Then they cry about being criticized. Grown men spending most of their time on a fan site crying about not getting their way. I'll cry with you in 2018 if we don't address the lack of talent on offense in the draft and spend a good amount of money in free agency.

Constantly complaining in year two of a total rebuild would be a lot more understandable. 1/4 into the first year? Just... no.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by mayo49:

f**k the money, this guy reminds me of Rathman.

He's a good player. He's going to be a key component to the success of the running game. When it's all said and done, I think people will be a little more appreciative of his contributions. Not everything shows up in a stat sheet. On that though, it's still quite a bit of football left to play. I think people need to slow the sarcasm on what his role has been or hasn't been thus far.

4 games into a 4 year contract.


Good post

....I love those that have never shown any actual football Xs and Os knowledge questioning actual real pro guys. What's even funnier is when it's the same people that b***hed and moaned about past staffs using FB in multiple spots to unravel coverages. Now they are clamouring for it. How about we hold on for half a f**king second and let the staff install the scheme and find out where he fits.

Shanny loves Texas/angle routes. I bet we see him running some of those. That's just speculation though.

Dude has been great with the opportunities he has been getting. Also a great lead blocker. A little expensive for a FB but well worth it.

Originally posted by thl408:

He's not being used as a 3rd down back like he was in BAL. That's one area where he's not used that has cut into his snapcount. He's also not being used as a TE that I noticed. So basically 21 and 22 personnel is when he's used. I don't see the 49ers using 22, if at all.

That one personnel grouping chart said ATL used 22 personnel 4% of the time(49 plays) and 21 personnel 24% of the time. So I agree they are gonna need to get him involved as either the big back or a TE to get him on the field. I do think though it's a bit premature for some to be saying s**t like Kyle had no clue how to use him based on the small sample size that we've seen.

Personally I'd love to get him in on our 13 personnel......would have rather seen him in Paulson's Spot on this play


However part of me wonders if Paulson being so wide open was due more to him not being that great of a pass threat. I'd suspect if we had Juice there the coverage might look different. But hey perhaps that opens up the other vert.