1st Team All Pro - OW, Kyle "Juice" Juszczyk

There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

Originally posted by mojave45:
Lead blocking is his primary job. Hard to see his effectiveness when the line let's posing defenses into the back field so fast. I think we will see more of his pass catching when we improve the line, and now that we have a QB that can execute. Next year I believe we will see more out of him.

Now that we have a real qb we should see less of him and see a real offensive weapon being used.

Originally posted by thl408:
There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:
There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

This. When we are in a position to open up the offense, I think Juice will do a little more in this offense.

Originally posted by thl408:
Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

Exactly.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:
There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

This. When we are in a position to open up the offense, I think Juice will do a little more in this offense.

i agree. we are no where close to being a finished offense that Kyle wants

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

This. When we are in a position to open up the offense, I think Juice will do a little more in this offense.

i agree. we are no where close to being a finished offense that Kyle wants

Yup.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

Yup.I expect that we will think differently about him next year. And we did overpay... But what are you going to do in the situation we were in? Crappy teams have to pay more in FA.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

There was no way that Juice is going to live up to his contract as a FB. I'd say half of his catches in BAL were from being their 3rd down back. Sometimes the catch resulted in a first down, other times it was Flacco checking down to get some yardage before punting (meaningless yards). I don't think Juice is a dominating lead blocker, just "better than adequate" imo. The unique skill he brings to the FB position is that he is capable of threatening downfield vs a LB, and can make open field tacklers miss on occasion. Not enough to warrant a salary that is so far ahead of the #2 paid FB, but how else does a rebuilding team acquire FAs besides overpaying them.

We talking about a FB though not a real playmaker. His skill isn't unique.

Not many FBs can threaten downfield or make open field tacklers miss. That's what makes him unique. Not the lead blocking part.

Yup.I expect that we will think differently about him next year. And we did overpay... But what are you going to do in the situation we were in? Crappy teams have to pay more in FA.

Am I missing something? Weren't there other teams that wanted to sign him? Wouldn't that and our previous record drive his price up? I think you have to wait for his career in Sanfrancisco to come to an end before you determine whether he was worth x amount of dollars.

Maybe he is paid more than a FB normally gets. Maybe he puts out more on the field at the end of the day than another FB might. Maybe not. Still as fans we have to let things play out. I think in theory it sounds great so I'm willing to wait before I judge the move. Knowing that regardless of what I want it's John and Kyle that makes the decisions.

Originally posted by mojave45:
Lead blocking is his primary job. Hard to see his effectiveness when the line let's opposing defenses into the back field so fast. I think we will see more of his pass catching when we improve the line, and now that we have a QB that can execute. Next year I believe we will see more out of him.

Lead blocking is his primary job. Hard to see his effectiveness when the line let's opposing defenses into the back field so fast. I think we will see more of his pass catching when we improve the line, and now that we have a QB that can execute. Next year I believe we will see more out of him.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by mojave45:
Lead blocking is his primary job. Hard to see his effectiveness when the line let's opposing defenses into the back field so fast. I think we will see more of his pass catching when we improve the line, and now that we have a QB that can execute. Next year I believe we will see more out of him.

Lead blocking is his primary job. Hard to see his effectiveness when the line let's opposing defenses into the back field so fast. I think we will see more of his pass catching when we improve the line, and now that we have a QB that can execute. Next year I believe we will see more out of him.

you pay that much money for a guy to block . its always next year around here

Ouch!

He was also knocked out cold on a goal line collision and played the next week lol.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Ouch!

No one knew 49ers FB Kyle Juszczyk played 3 quarters + OT with 2 broken transverse processes in his back, a fractured rib, and a hematoma — until now. He's healthy again and ready to play some more slot receiver: https://t.co/MzFyfzEdW3

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 8, 2017

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