1st Team All Pro - OW, Kyle "Juice" Juszczyk

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
As bad as things were, didn't we have a 5 game losing streak, with only 6 point differential...or some crap like that?

Imagine if Hoeye had won those games...we might not have traded for Jimmy!

So, yeah, Goyer was exactly the right QB!

Still would have traded for Jimmy. Hoyer was still nothing more than a 32 year old stop gap signing.

We would have had a new QB either way. If not Jimmy, then Kirk was in Shanny's cross-hairs

This

Lynch better watch out. Kyle Juszczyk gonna take over as GM.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/117258-kyle-juszczyk-helped-49ers-recruit-jerick-mckinnon/

The juice shall be loose next year. Watch.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:

I know this is the Pettis thread, but just one post about Juice.
In the 5 games Jimmy started, Juice totaled 17 catches for 195 yards. Prorated over 16 games that's a little over 50 catches for 600 yards. That's very high production from a fullback in the passing game.

He was tied with Taylor for second in reception when Jimmy started.

Would it be a stretch to say that if Juice got hurt and missed some games it would put a dent in our offense?

^^ (Took this convo from the Pettis thread and moved it here)
When Juice was injured for two games last season, Kittles subbed in as FB. Also, Kyle would use more double TE formations and often had them both inline (DAL, WAS games). An additional inline TE doesn't provide the same flexibility in the run game as a FB coming out of the backfield since the FB in the backfield can motion late, and is able to block to the left or right, to change the numbers regarding strongside/weakside.

So using more double TE personnel, not having a real backup FB, and losing some flexibility in the run game means losing Juice is a loss for this offense. It's still "just" a FB but Kyle likes his FB.

Two inline TEs provide less unpredicability in the run game. A lead blocker is basically an additional gap that the defense has to take account for. By having a FB in the I formation, that FB can go left or right - the defense won't know until the ball is snapped.


Example of not knowing which side the FB will block to. The 49ers swap strongside/weakside (TE motion), then run it to the weakside while not really losing a blocker since Juice blocked to the left side.


FB in an I formation means not showing which side of the OL will have the additional gap - an added element when compared to two inline TEs. By having late motion, the offense can still get the FB to the edge similar to an inline TE that is already at the edge.

This article was posted somewhere here. Hoodie gets out of character and gives a Kyle-like, long winded answer that thoroughly explains the differences between 12 (RB+FB) and 21 (two TEs) in the run game and passing game. He also explains how pass protection is different - two RBs in the backfield can more easily see, and respond to blitzes since they can block to either side of the line.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/08/bill_belichick_dishes_on_differences_between_12_and_21
"But as far as your running gaps, I mean, you can put more width at the formation by having a guy on the line (inline TE), whether it's four on one side and two on the other side of the center, or three and three. You just have a wider front, which there are some advantages to that.
By having them in the backfield (FB, 21 personnel), you can create that same four-man surface or three-man surface after the snap so the defense doesn't know where the four-man surface or three-man surface is. The fullback has to –- he can build that from the backfield.

"And then there are also, let's say, a greater variety of blocking schemes with the fullback in the backfield because he can block different guys and come from different angles. He's not always behind the quarterback. He could be offset one way or the other and create different blocking schemes and angles that it's harder to get from the line of scrimmage.

Originally posted by thl408:
This article was posted somewhere here. Hoodie gets out of character and gives a Kyle-like, long winded answer that thoroughly explains the differences between 12 (RB+FB) and 21 (two TEs) in the run game and passing game. He also explains how pass protection is different - two RBs in the backfield can more easily see, and respond to blitzes since they can block to either side of the line.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/08/bill_belichick_dishes_on_differences_between_12_and_21
"But as far as your running gaps, I mean, you can put more width at the formation by having a guy on the line (inline TE), whether it's four on one side and two on the other side of the center, or three and three. You just have a wider front, which there are some advantages to that.
By having them in the backfield (FB, 21 personnel), you can create that same four-man surface or three-man surface after the snap so the defense doesn't know where the four-man surface or three-man surface is. The fullback has to –- he can build that from the backfield.

"And then there are also, let's say, a greater variety of blocking schemes with the fullback in the backfield because he can block different guys and come from different angles. He's not always behind the quarterback. He could be offset one way or the other and create different blocking schemes and angles that it's harder to get from the line of scrimmage.

Beautifully stated. I love the hoodie.

Is Juice the super emergency QB? What kind of arm talent does he have?

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Is Juice the super emergency QB? What kind of arm talent does he have?

Well he does have huge arms.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
The juice shall be loose next year. Watch.

OW

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

The juice shall be loose next year. Watch.

OW

Yeah I have a feeling there won't be as much complaining about his contract after this season.

Unleash the Juice

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by thl408:

This article was posted somewhere here. Hoodie gets out of character and gives a Kyle-like, long winded answer that thoroughly explains the differences between 12 (RB+FB) and 21 (two TEs) in the run game and passing game. He also explains how pass protection is different - two RBs in the backfield can more easily see, and respond to blitzes since they can block to either side of the line.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/08/bill_belichick_dishes_on_differences_between_12_and_21
"But as far as your running gaps, I mean, you can put more width at the formation by having a guy on the line (inline TE), whether it's four on one side and two on the other side of the center, or three and three. You just have a wider front, which there are some advantages to that.
By having them in the backfield (FB, 21 personnel), you can create that same four-man surface or three-man surface after the snap so the defense doesn't know where the four-man surface or three-man surface is. The fullback has to –- he can build that from the backfield.

"And then there are also, let's say, a greater variety of blocking schemes with the fullback in the backfield because he can block different guys and come from different angles. He's not always behind the quarterback. He could be offset one way or the other and create different blocking schemes and angles that it's harder to get from the line of scrimmage.

Beautifully stated. I love the hoodie.

Great read here

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Unleash the Juice

Got a little sip of Juice week1.

Need to take the big gulps in the weeks to come

Seems like he was not even on the field against the vikings. Did he catch a pass I do not recall if he did.