1st Team All Pro - OW, Kyle "Juice" Juszczyk

Originally posted by johnnystrzykalski:
89 pages about a fullback

Not sure if you have The Athletic, but Ted Nguyen just posted a article of the top 10 most valuable/versatile players in the NFL. Juice is one.

He can stone wall guys like Khalil Mack one play, then you can motion him out to take a slant 20 yards the next. Having a "FB" like him makes the play-calling very unpredictable.

Here's another article Ted did just about Juice...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
funny how people whined like crazy about paying juice all that money for a fb, especially the dumbasses over at better rivals.

Better rivals is straight up analytical/PFF to the point of annoying....if they had it their way we'd draft 7 DBs

It was just obvious that paying juice a lot of money wasn't going to hamstring us in the long term, so who f'n cares what he got in '17 & '18. Our offense is greatly benefited by having him.

agreed...they act like they're very football savvy, yet I don't think they get how much Juice get's used on offense.

Like you said that money hasn't hurt this team one bit, I'd rather Kyle has his guy to help make his offense roll vs pay a 3rd tier CB the same about of cash.

I hope Juice retires a 49er

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
funny how people whined like crazy about paying juice all that money for a fb, especially the dumbasses over at better rivals.

Better rivals is straight up analytical/PFF to the point of annoying....if they had it their way we'd draft 7 DBs

It was just obvious that paying juice a lot of money wasn't going to hamstring us in the long term, so who f'n cares what he got in '17 & '18. Our offense is greatly benefited by having him.

agreed...they act like they're very football savvy, yet I don't think they get how much Juice get's used on offense.

Like you said that money hasn't hurt this team one bit, I'd rather Kyle has his guy to help make his offense roll vs pay a 3rd tier CB the same about of cash.

I hope Juice retires a 49er

Here's some other little factoids about Juice. In games with QB's not named Jimmy G he averages the following per game:

Targets - 2.25
Catches - 1.6

With Jimmy G he has seen a pretty substantial increase:

Targets - 3.75
Catches - 3.13

He's also averaged over 37 yards receiving per game with Jimmy in the 8 games they've played together. If you projected these out to over an entire season you get the following:

Targets - 60
Catches - 50
Yards - 600+

That seems pretty substantial to me. I think Juice is a pretty important piece to what Kyle wants to do. I'd argue that the Pin/Yankee concept out of an IForm variant formation in 21 personnel is his favorite concept/play. This concept really only works if you have the threat of the ground game to play pass off of and that really only happens if you have a FB on the field.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
funny how people whined like crazy about paying juice all that money for a fb, especially the dumbasses over at better rivals.

Better rivals is straight up analytical/PFF to the point of annoying....if they had it their way we'd draft 7 DBs

It was just obvious that paying juice a lot of money wasn't going to hamstring us in the long term, so who f'n cares what he got in '17 & '18. Our offense is greatly benefited by having him.

agreed...they act like they're very football savvy, yet I don't think they get how much Juice get's used on offense.

Like you said that money hasn't hurt this team one bit, I'd rather Kyle has his guy to help make his offense roll vs pay a 3rd tier CB the same about of cash.

I hope Juice retires a 49er

Here's some other little factoids about Juice. In games with QB's not named Jimmy G he averages the following per game:

Targets - 2.25
Catches - 1.6

With Jimmy G he has seen a pretty substantial increase:

Targets - 3.75
Catches - 3.13

He's also averaged over 37 yards receiving per game with Jimmy in the 8 games they've played together. If you projected these out to over an entire season you get the following:

Targets - 60
Catches - 50
Yards - 600+

That seems pretty substantial to me. I think Juice is a pretty important piece to what Kyle wants to do. I'd argue that the Pin/Yankee concept out of an IForm variant formation in 21 personnel is his favorite concept/play. This concept really only works if you have the threat of the ground game to play pass off of and that really only happens if you have a FB on the field.

I'm really interested on how he's gonna use all of these RBs along with Juice....

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
funny how people whined like crazy about paying juice all that money for a fb, especially the dumbasses over at better rivals.

Better rivals is straight up analytical/PFF to the point of annoying....if they had it their way we'd draft 7 DBs

It was just obvious that paying juice a lot of money wasn't going to hamstring us in the long term, so who f'n cares what he got in '17 & '18. Our offense is greatly benefited by having him.

agreed...they act like they're very football savvy, yet I don't think they get how much Juice get's used on offense.

Like you said that money hasn't hurt this team one bit, I'd rather Kyle has his guy to help make his offense roll vs pay a 3rd tier CB the same about of cash.

I hope Juice retires a 49er

Here's some other little factoids about Juice. In games with QB's not named Jimmy G he averages the following per game:

Targets - 2.25
Catches - 1.6

With Jimmy G he has seen a pretty substantial increase:

Targets - 3.75
Catches - 3.13

He's also averaged over 37 yards receiving per game with Jimmy in the 8 games they've played together. If you projected these out to over an entire season you get the following:

Targets - 60
Catches - 50
Yards - 600+

That seems pretty substantial to me. I think Juice is a pretty important piece to what Kyle wants to do. I'd argue that the Pin/Yankee concept out of an IForm variant formation in 21 personnel is his favorite concept/play. This concept really only works if you have the threat of the ground game to play pass off of and that really only happens if you have a FB on the field.

I'm really interested on how he's gonna use all of these RBs along with Juice....

Even if the numbers dont match these average due to the new pieces on roster, I still think having him out there kinda ties it all together. He's a very versatile piece. I'm trying to temper my excitement (mostly because the last 5+ years have been a s**tshow) but if healthy this offense has a legit chance to make a ton of noise. I just get excited thinking about a 21 grouping that has Juice at FB, Kittle at Y, a rotation of Goodwin, Deebo and Pettis at the X, Z. and Brieda, Jet, and Coleman at HB.

Grant Cohn has been doing his usual bash session on Juice.

You know that guy bought himself some football related books so he could try to act like he knows what he's talking about yet gets schooled every time.

Originally posted by genus49:

Grant Cohn has been doing his usual bash session on Juice.

You know that guy bought himself some football related books so he could try to act like he knows what he's talking about yet gets schooled every time.

He doesn't really respond to me anymore on twitter

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
funny how people whined like crazy about paying juice all that money for a fb, especially the dumbasses over at better rivals.

Better rivals is straight up analytical/PFF to the point of annoying....if they had it their way we'd draft 7 DBs

It was just obvious that paying juice a lot of money wasn't going to hamstring us in the long term, so who f'n cares what he got in '17 & '18. Our offense is greatly benefited by having him.

agreed...they act like they're very football savvy, yet I don't think they get how much Juice get's used on offense.

Like you said that money hasn't hurt this team one bit, I'd rather Kyle has his guy to help make his offense roll vs pay a 3rd tier CB the same about of cash.

I hope Juice retires a 49er

Ditto

Good post NY!

Originally posted by genus49:

Grant Cohn has been doing his usual bash session on Juice.

You know that guy bought himself some football related books so he could try to act like he knows what he's talking about yet gets schooled every time.

Grant Cohn? Never heard of her?

Dude doesn't understand Juices worth on this offense. Who cares what he has to say

Originally posted by Niners816:

Even if the numbers dont match these average due to the new pieces on roster, I still think having him out there kinda ties it all together. He's a very versatile piece. I'm trying to temper my excitement (mostly because the last 5+ years have been a s**tshow) but if healthy this offense has a legit chance to make a ton of noise. I just get excited thinking about a 21 grouping that has Juice at FB, Kittle at Y, a rotation of Goodwin, Deebo and Pettis at the X, Z. and Brieda, Jet, and Coleman at HB.

This day in age the Fullback just isn't appreciated/what it used to be. Juice is one of the most unique that I ever seen and I'm glad we have him. Could care less what the young pups think

People point to his stats and claim he's nothing special. How quickly we forget players simply under utilized but still very important.

Delanie Walker is a perfect example of this. HUGE part of the offense during the Harbaugh years but his stats were pedestrian. However his ability as a blocker and pass catcher gave us some great looks from opposing defenses.

Juice offers the same things. I saw some people siding with Grant pointing to his stats and sure they're not exactly eye popping especially his TD production but what stats do OLmen have? His ability as a run/pass blocker is important and while he's not the best blocking FB ever he's very good at it and along with his ability in the passing game and even short yardage runs he allows us to get some great looks on offense.

As for his salary...who cares? I'm not paying him and we still have plenty of cap space. Juice is what I imagined Trey Millard would be for us.

Not to mention his production with Jimmy is top notch.

Guess which RB/FB led the league in yards per reception last season with 10.8 yards per? Yes, small sample (30 catches). Juice will never have high yardage type of stats, he's still a FB, but his efficiency per touch should be high. No FB runs like him in the open field. He actually jukes LBs.