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Originally posted by NYniner85:
If that was Thomas he would have said...occupied two blockers

Its just ridiculous. Buckner was pushed back in this gif and had two linemen on him. Meanwhile in the earlier Packer gif, two Packers completely flatten Buckner and throw him down like a rag doll.....yet he was occupying two blockers so it made it a good play for him.

Just absolutely laughable.
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Originally posted by JustWin2019:
Originally posted by thl408:
That video won't load in that link. Can you re-post the video? I want to see Buckner suck.

The links work fine. What browser are you using?

All the games from this year are available on NFL Full HD. You can google that if the direct links aren't working for you.

I'm using Chrome. I also tried on my phone so that's Safari. I'll try Netscape or Opera if I have to. I need to see these videos. Maybe I need a certain plugin or something?
Originally posted by thl408:
I'm using Chrome. I also tried on my phone so that's Safari. I'll try Netscape or Opera if I have to. I need to see these videos. Maybe I need a certain plugin or something?

The links work fine. They are pretty bad examples trying to prove Buckner isnt good though. These exact type of plays happen all the time to Thomas, but Thomas was occupying blockers.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
I'm using Chrome. I also tried on my phone so that's Safari. I'll try Netscape or Opera if I have to. I need to see these videos. Maybe I need a certain plugin or something?

The links work fine. They are pretty bad examples trying to prove Buckner isnt good though. These exact type of plays happen all the time to Thomas, but Thomas was occupying blockers.

I get an error "ok.ru refused to connect." Maybe it's a problem with my Flash player? What browser are you using?
Originally posted by JustWin2019:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:


***EDIT*** I retract bolding the first line. The bold should apply to the entire post.

I already posted the QB hits to snaps ratio, showing Thomas had a higher ratio than Buckner before the Packers game (where Thomas played all but 2 or 3 snaps at DE because of the injuries to Ford and Blair).

And anyone who thinks Buckner is anywhere near as good against Thomas against the run, let alone better, really has no business discussing football. It's like saying Steve Young had a stronger arm than Brett Favre. Sheer lunacy and objectively false.

You must be the only person on the planet who has business discussing football because no other person on the planet shares that opinion.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
I'm using Chrome. I also tried on my phone so that's Safari. I'll try Netscape or Opera if I have to. I need to see these videos. Maybe I need a certain plugin or something?

The links work fine. They are pretty bad examples trying to prove Buckner isnt good though. These exact type of plays happen all the time to Thomas, but Thomas was occupying blockers.

I get an error "ok.ru refused to connect." Maybe it's a problem with my Flash player? What browser are you using?

I'm using chrome too.
Kenyan Drake runs for 36 yards behind combo block that easily blows Buckner off the ball and post blocker peels off onto Warner:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PassionateThickAgama-mobile.mp4

Havenstein viciously pancakes Buckner one-on-one: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BonyConcernedCatbird-mobile.mp4

Some Bucs runs vs. Buckner: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SizzlingCriminalAmericankestrel-mobile.mp4

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FirstAnchoredAiredaleterrier-mobile.mp4
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You must be the only person on the planet who has business discussing football because no other person on the planet shares that opinion.

Yeah, which explains why Kocurek put Thomas at nose tackle and not Buckner.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Its just ridiculous. Buckner was pushed back in this gif and had two linemen on him. Meanwhile in the earlier Packer gif, two Packers completely flatten Buckner and throw him down like a rag doll.....yet he was occupying two blockers so it made it a good play for him.

Just absolutely laughable.

On Buckner's play vs the Lions that you seem to be referencing, he allowed the post blocker on a combo block to go through him like a hot knife through butter and wipe out the linebacker for what may have sprung a long, breakaway touchdown run if Ragnow hadn't screwed up his pulling block on Elijah Lee.

On Thomas's play, he tried to tie up a guard on a non-combo block, ultimately failed, and the Packers gained a whopping 3-4 yards.

You don't even know what you're looking at.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The links work fine. They are pretty bad examples trying to prove Buckner isnt good though. These exact type of plays happen all the time to Thomas, but Thomas was occupying blockers.

No. No they don't. There's a reason nobody can find anyone gaining more than 4 yards going at Thomas's gap, while there are boatloads of runs I can find of players gaining 8, 10, 36 going at Buckner's gap.
Originally posted by JustWin2019:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Its just ridiculous. Buckner was pushed back in this gif and had two linemen on him. Meanwhile in the earlier Packer gif, two Packers completely flatten Buckner and throw him down like a rag doll.....yet he was occupying two blockers so it made it a good play for him.

Just absolutely laughable.

On Buckner's play vs the Lions that you seem to be referencing, he allowed the post blocker on a combo block to go through him like a hot knife through butter and wipe out the linebacker for what may have sprung a long, breakaway touchdown run if Ragnow hadn't screwed up his pulling block on Elijah Lee.

On Thomas's play, he tried to tie up a guard on a non-combo block, ultimately failed, and the Packers gained a whopping 3-4 yards.

You don't even know what you're looking at.

The bottom line is, in both examples, neither player accomplished what they were trying to do. Yet you are spinning the result of the play to somehow say that one player did his job and the other didnt.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by JustWin2019:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:


***EDIT*** I retract bolding the first line. The bold should apply to the entire post.

I already posted the QB hits to snaps ratio, showing Thomas had a higher ratio than Buckner before the Packers game (where Thomas played all but 2 or 3 snaps at DE because of the injuries to Ford and Blair).

And anyone who thinks Buckner is anywhere near as good against Thomas against the run, let alone better, really has no business discussing football. It's like saying Steve Young had a stronger arm than Brett Favre. Sheer lunacy and objectively false.

What post # is that? I genuinely can't find it.

So far I have a couple games of GIFs ready but I should hopefully finish before this Sunday.

Bump. Where is this post you speak of?
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The bottom line is, in both examples, neither player accomplished what they were trying to do. Yet you are spinning the result of the play to somehow say that one player did his job and the other didnt.

More like posters in this thread are using confirmation bias to try to prove that Thomas can't play inside, reaching to a ridiculous extent to attack Thomas in the context of them also thinking that Buckner is good against the run.
Originally posted by JustWin2019:
Kenyan Drake runs for 36 yards behind combo block that easily blows Buckner off the ball and post blocker peels off onto Warner:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PassionateThickAgama-mobile.mp4

Havenstein viciously pancakes Buckner one-on-one: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BonyConcernedCatbird-mobile.mp4

Some Bucs runs vs. Buckner: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SizzlingCriminalAmericankestrel-mobile.mp4

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FirstAnchoredAiredaleterrier-mobile.mp4

Add a Chubb 37 yard run here: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LiveOrderlyGlowworm-mobile.mp4
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