Originally posted by 9ers4u:Yeah it's different blocking as an inline TE compared to a FB lined up in the backfield. You can cut an OLB as a lead blocking FB and that will get the job done. Trying to seal off OLBs and DEs as an inline blocker is a tough assignment for any TE and it really shows Dwelley's struggles in this area.
Originally posted by mayo49:KS had him playing FB in place of Juice so he can't be all that bad as a blocker. Maybe he's better behind the line than on the line. I don't follow Dwelley around when I watch the game. He did look really good catching the ball though.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
I don't know if he's horrific - maybe an average blocker at best.
Please bring Kittle back to us
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Nov 20, 2019 at 11:17 AM
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Nov 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Jiks:That's not on Dwelley. I have been watching this oline get pushed back 2-3 yards since the first AZ game where Kittle played. The entire line is getting dominated.Originally posted by Waterbear:Originally posted by smithgdwg:Originally posted by Waterbear:In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
.@49ers rushing attack is dying a slow painful death without the services of @gkittle46 . No one can effectively block the edges like Kittle. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/wfxc7PgFXv
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Like I said... he has been pretty bad blocking on the line of scrimmage. Him blocking as a FB has been fine but he's not gonna be asked to do that much now with Juszczyk back. KS offense needs versatile players to really make it go and I think Dwelley is perfect #3 TE but not what we need as a 2.
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:24 AM
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Wish we would just get a definitive answer 
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:Wish we would just get a definitive answer
So do the packers. They are not going to release anything until he can practice
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:How does Celek grade out as a Receiver and a blocker?
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Yeah it's different blocking as an inline TE compared to a FB lined up in the backfield. You can cut an OLB as a lead blocking FB and that will get the job done. Trying to seal off OLBs and DEs as an inline blocker is a tough assignment for any TE and it really shows Dwelley's struggles in this area.
Originally posted by mayo49:KS had him playing FB in place of Juice so he can't be all that bad as a blocker. Maybe he's better behind the line than on the line. I don't follow Dwelley around when I watch the game. He did look really good catching the ball though.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
I don't know if he's horrific - maybe an average blocker at best.
Please bring Kittle back to us
Is he more suited as a #2 than Dwell?
I ask because he's been out all year and now he's back. Maybe he gets the #2 back
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
Jalen Hurd can be that H-back, so don't forget him. Unfortunately, he's also injured. Maybe he's too aggressive and got his back injured because of it. Hopefully he can dial that aggressiveness down and stay healthy once he gets back on the field. Jalen Hurd, Dwelly and Kittle would be a formidable trio (nevermind Deebo and Sanders) if Hurd can ever get healthy.
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
Agree, I think the reason we've not seen more Boot plays by Jimmy when Kittle is out is because to sell the boot action, you have to have a credible run attack with the TE as the lead blocker. When the 49ers run to Dwelly's side, maybe they aren't having as much success and so the boot action won't be bought by the defense. Hence that's why - I think - Kyle's dialed back those TE boot actions.
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:48 AM
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Is brittle kittle playing this week or nah
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by 9ers4u:Sorry I didn't spotlight Celek. Wasn't this his first action all season? It's like his preseason. To me, Celek is just a guy at this point. Doesn't do anything good, doesn't screw up. I think once Kittle and Toilolo are healthy, Celek goes to inactive. Toilolo is a good blocker, Dwelley is a good receiver and can fill in at FB in a pinch if Juice gets hurt mid-game.
Originally posted by thl408:How does Celek grade out as a Receiver and a blocker?
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Yeah it's different blocking as an inline TE compared to a FB lined up in the backfield. You can cut an OLB as a lead blocking FB and that will get the job done. Trying to seal off OLBs and DEs as an inline blocker is a tough assignment for any TE and it really shows Dwelley's struggles in this area.
Originally posted by mayo49:KS had him playing FB in place of Juice so he can't be all that bad as a blocker. Maybe he's better behind the line than on the line. I don't follow Dwelley around when I watch the game. He did look really good catching the ball though.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
I don't know if he's horrific - maybe an average blocker at best.
Please bring Kittle back to us
Is he more suited as a #2 than Dwell?
I ask because he's been out all year and now he's back. Maybe he gets the #2 back
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Sorry I didn't spotlight Celek. Wasn't this his first action all season? It's like his preseason. To me, Celek is just a guy at this point. Doesn't do anything good, doesn't screw up. I think once Kittle and Toilolo are healthy, Celek goes to inactive. Toilolo is a good blocker, Dwelley is a good receiver and can fill in at FB in a pinch if Juice gets hurt mid-game.
Originally posted by thl408:How does Celek grade out as a Receiver and a blocker?
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Yeah it's different blocking as an inline TE compared to a FB lined up in the backfield. You can cut an OLB as a lead blocking FB and that will get the job done. Trying to seal off OLBs and DEs as an inline blocker is a tough assignment for any TE and it really shows Dwelley's struggles in this area.
Originally posted by mayo49:KS had him playing FB in place of Juice so he can't be all that bad as a blocker. Maybe he's better behind the line than on the line. I don't follow Dwelley around when I watch the game. He did look really good catching the ball though.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
I don't know if he's horrific - maybe an average blocker at best.
Please bring Kittle back to us
Is he more suited as a #2 than Dwell?
I ask because he's been out all year and now he's back. Maybe he gets the #2 back
Just regarding Dwelly's skill set. Will he ever be a good blocker? I distinctly remember Brent Jones being a very average blocker, but he was an awesome TE. I'm wondering if anybody has any clue if Dwelley can be a Brent Jones type of blocker. Brent was never an overpowering blocker, but he did a good job of basically position blocking and just
getting in the way of his blocking assignment. Brent turned out to be (I think) an all pro TE and was very productive for Mike Shanahan when he was with us.
Nov 20, 2019 at 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Is brittle kittle playing this week or nah
I think so, but I said that last week, so...
Nov 20, 2019 at 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:Originally posted by susweel:Is brittle kittle playing this week or nah
I think so, but I said that last week, so...
Hope so we need him badly.
Nov 20, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:For some reason I remember Celek making a few big catches in recent years. But I just looked at his stats and he has done squat on offense since Kittle arrived. Had 4 TD in 2017. Must be a blocking TE mostly.
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Sorry I didn't spotlight Celek. Wasn't this his first action all season? It's like his preseason. To me, Celek is just a guy at this point. Doesn't do anything good, doesn't screw up. I think once Kittle and Toilolo are healthy, Celek goes to inactive. Toilolo is a good blocker, Dwelley is a good receiver and can fill in at FB in a pinch if Juice gets hurt mid-game.
Originally posted by thl408:How does Celek grade out as a Receiver and a blocker?
Originally posted by 9ers4u:Yeah it's different blocking as an inline TE compared to a FB lined up in the backfield. You can cut an OLB as a lead blocking FB and that will get the job done. Trying to seal off OLBs and DEs as an inline blocker is a tough assignment for any TE and it really shows Dwelley's struggles in this area.
Originally posted by mayo49:KS had him playing FB in place of Juice so he can't be all that bad as a blocker. Maybe he's better behind the line than on the line. I don't follow Dwelley around when I watch the game. He did look really good catching the ball though.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
In the future we need to seriously find a good #2 TE. I hated the Kaden Smith pick because I knew someone who could block better would make the team over him which they did.
I like Dwelley but having a Delanie Walker type blocking H back would do wonders for this team.
Dwelly is a pretty good #2.
I'm fine with Kittle and Dwelly. Just need to make sure they are healthy and maybe have a serviceable #3 that could come in if one of those 2 go down.
As a receiver he's fine. But he's horrific as a blocker on the line of scrimmage and we're seeing that affect our run game.
I don't know if he's horrific - maybe an average blocker at best.
Please bring Kittle back to us
Is he more suited as a #2 than Dwell?
I ask because he's been out all year and now he's back. Maybe he gets the #2 back
So basically we don't have a backup that is a true replacement for Kittle. We have a pass catcher and a blocker but not one who can do both well like Kittle.
Nov 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by susweel:
Is brittle kittle playing this week or nah
I think so, but I said that last week, so...
Hope so we need him badly.
Agreed. Dwelley is a nice piece, but we need our #1 offensive weapon back.
Nov 20, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by susweel:
Is brittle kittle playing this week or nah
I think so, but I said that last week, so...
Hope so we need him badly.
Agreed. Dwelley is a nice piece, but we need our #1 offensive weapon back.
Kyle should have an update later after practice.