1st Team All Pro - TE George Kittle Thread

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

Yes. Cause for some reason he short hands or overthrows easy wide open passes.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Kittle also said that CMC in the Rams game, was the most he's ever been open. Meaning, teams were locking him up and the mere presence of CMC took attention off him. His 1 catch was 1on1. Hopefully we go more to him because of that and he used to be Jimmy's favorite target.

Wait, so Kittle is open a bunch, but it's Kyle who's not getting him involved? Is Kyle going up to Jimmy and whispering in his ear to not throw him the ball? Do you even understand what you post anymore or just post to get in forum arguments for the sake of attention?

Well, he had 3 catches followed by 1. Does that sound like a feature receiver to you?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
Maybe Shanahan is trying to keep him relatively healthy until the post season or stretch run. I could be wrong, but maybe he will have his hand held until the playoffs and then Shannahan unleashes him. Maybe he is having others carry the load now, like Aiyuk to switch it up.

maybe - he just isnt fluid like Kelce - he is more of a bulldozer which is thrilling and also ripe for injury.

Yup. Kittle is a TE, not a pure WR. Kittle was originally drafted because of his elite blocking abilities.

Kittle has proved that he's as good as anyone In the league when It comes down to making plays as a receiving TE. The fact he can block as good as he does Is an added bonus. There literally no excuses as to why the biggest receiving threat on the team only got targeted once last game. Kyle must find a way to get him Involved as much as possible Imo

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

This. How are people confused about Deebos lack of production? He was the best weapon in all of football last year. That's why Aiyuk is running wide open with 1 defender always on him.

Those of you saying Deebos ability isn't as good this year should review that 3rd down catch vs the Rams which may of been the best run by a wr this year with Ramsey getting posterized OR his run where he outran Seattles defense and broke 3 defenders ankles. Sick

They don't throw to kittle anymore cuz he gets hurt too much.

they will throw to him in the playoffs, that way he will have all off-season to heal up

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

Oh there's no doubt. Any DC worth a s**t is going to try and shut him down. Crocker did a great breakdown of the areas he can still improve and reworked expectations for him going forward. But you're right.

There's a number of combinations Kyle can use now to take advantage of Deebo being keyed in on. And then come back to him. Chess. I don't think Kyle needs to feature him like a Hopkins or Kupp right now.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

Oh there's no doubt. Any DC worth a s**t is going to try and shut him down. Crocker did a great breakdown of the areas he can still improve and reworked expectations for him going forward. But you're right.

There's a number of combinations Kyle can use now to take advantage of Deebo being keyed in on. And then come back to him. Chess. I don't think Kyle needs to feature him like a Hopkins or Kupp right now.

Keep feeding it to Aiyuk and get Kittle more involved in the passing game.

I watched a Kittle interview this morning. He said to not worry. The TD's, the catches and the YAC are coming .

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

Oh there's no doubt. Any DC worth a s**t is going to try and shut him down. Crocker did a great breakdown of the areas he can still improve and reworked expectations for him going forward. But you're right.

There's a number of combinations Kyle can use now to take advantage of Deebo being keyed in on. And then come back to him. Chess. I don't think Kyle needs to feature him like a Hopkins or Kupp right now.

Keep feeding it to Aiyuk and get Kittle more involved in the passing game.

I watched a Kittle interview this morning. He said to not worry. The TD's, the catches and the YAC are coming .

Can't wait!

Originally posted by valrod33:
They don't throw to kittle anymore cuz he gets hurt too much.

they will throw to him in the playoffs, that way he will have all off-season to heal up

Imagine teams actually thinking this way. "Hey! Let's not throw to one of our best offensive players because he gets banged up during the season and save him for the playoffs IF WE GET THERE!"

The targets per pass snap tells a different story than what fans want to believe. No. He is not our #1. But he is 1 of our top 3 on the team.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Don't get me wrong. Deebo hasn't exactly been reliable this season inspite of his targets per pass snap. Deebo has only caught 55% of his targets while Kittle has caught 70% of his. I wouldn't mind Kittle seeing more targets than Deebo for that reason.

Just to add on with some more info I read somewhere that Jimmy G's passer rating when targeting CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle are all over 100+ and its way low when targeting Deebo like around 68.

For whatever reason, Jimmy and Deebo have just not been on the same page this season. 3 of Jimmy's 4 INT's have come from targeting Deebo.

Damn. Didn't realize that. It is odd. They used to be money.

Yes. But I think defenses are just not going to let Deebo wreck them any longer. They are willing to let guys like Aiyuk and Jennings beat them rather than Deebo and Kittle. Kyle needs to design some plays where you have CMC or Deebo running toward the flat out of the backfield and have the other running short in breaking routes. Get those defenders in a horizontal stretch and make them pick their poison. Have Kittle running more vertical routes to open up the middle of the field. Those 3 players should be able to help each other and keep each other from getting keyed in on.

Oh there's no doubt. Any DC worth a s**t is going to try and shut him down. Crocker did a great breakdown of the areas he can still improve and reworked expectations for him going forward. But you're right.

There's a number of combinations Kyle can use now to take advantage of Deebo being keyed in on. And then come back to him. Chess. I don't think Kyle needs to feature him like a Hopkins or Kupp right now.

Keep feeding it to Aiyuk and get Kittle more involved in the passing game.

I watched a Kittle interview this morning. He said to not worry. The TD's, the catches and the YAC are coming .

Can't wait!

THERE he goes running his mouth again.. that sound more of insecurity that being confident...

Shut up already !! As much as I think you're the best TE in the NFL, there's a kid here at UCLA that'll soon takeover the NFL !!

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Kittle has the 3rd most targets (41) on the team. Just behind Deebo (60) and Aiyuk (62). He also has the 3rd most receiving yards on the team. He spends 53.5% of his pass snaps inline, 35.1% in the slot and 10.2% out wide according to pff. That only adds up to 98.8%. So I am assuming the other 1.2% is in the backfield????

I know a lot of us would like to see Kittle more involved but we have a lot of weapons on the team (Aiyuk, Kittle, cmc, Deebo). The issue is we just aren't a high volume passing team. We are 26th in the league in pass attempts per game, the top teams average over 40 attempts per game. Jimmy only averages 29 attempts a game. Kittle is averaging 6 targets a game. On 29 attempts a game you could target each Aiyuk, cmc, Deebo, Kittle 7 times which would give you 28 pass attempts. It's a good problem to have with having so many offensive weapons.