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1st Team All Pro - TE George Kittle Thread
Sep 6, 2023 at 12:50 PM
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Dude probably is hurt from practicing wrestling moves
Sep 6, 2023 at 12:56 PM
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Sep 6, 2023 at 1:01 PM
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And Kelce has shown way more durability that Kittle throughout their careers.
Yeah WRs don't get injured near as much
He certainly doesn't block like Kittle, but is a way better receiver than Kittle, that's the reality. In the end idf*g about Kelce. I just want Kittle on the field, but the dude always has an injury.
I disagree that he's way better hell I disagree that he's the better receiver period Kittle was breaking records with Beatherd & Mullins at QB, I'd imagine Kittle would put up pretty similar numbers to Kelce in that offense with Mahomes at QB, it's all about how they're used.
Kittle doesn't even have as close to as many targets or receptions but if he did he would blow Kelce out of the water. (Like you said with Mullen's Beathard and company he broke the yardage record). He is better at getting yards after the catch, he is a lot faster and he is way more explosive. Kelce has nothing on Kittle except for a better quarterback that throws to him a lot more in an offense that makes him the primary receiver
Sep 6, 2023 at 2:33 PM
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Sep 6, 2023 at 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And Kelce has shown way more durability that Kittle throughout their careers.
Yeah WRs don't get injured near as much
He certainly doesn't block like Kittle, but is a way better receiver than Kittle, that's the reality. In the end idf*g about Kelce. I just want Kittle on the field, but the dude always has an injury.
I disagree that he's way better hell I disagree that he's the better receiver period Kittle was breaking records with Beatherd & Mullins at QB, I'd imagine Kittle would put up pretty similar numbers to Kelce in that offense with Mahomes at QB, it's all about how they're used.
Kittle doesn't even have as close to as many targets or receptions but if he did he would blow Kelce out of the water. (Like you said with Mullen's Beathard and company he broke the yardage record). He is better at getting yards after the catch, he is a lot faster and he is way more explosive. Kelce has nothing on Kittle except for a better quarterback that throws to him a lot more in an offense that makes him the primary receiver
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Sep 6, 2023 at 4:56 PM
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Kittle doesn't even have as close to as many targets or receptions but if he did he would blow Kelce out of the water. (Like you said with Mullen's Beathard and company he broke the yardage record). He is better at getting yards after the catch, he is a lot faster and he is way more explosive. Kelce has nothing on Kittle except for a better quarterback that throws to him a lot more in an offense that makes him the primary receiver
Nobody can run 10 yards deep, turn around, catch a wide open pass from mahomes. That's like 90% of what kelce does. Blows my mind that people think he's better
Sep 6, 2023 at 5:12 PM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Nobody can run 10 yards deep, turn around, catch a wide open pass from mahomes. That's like 90% of what kelce does. Blows my mind that people think he's better
Kelce's a better receiver. Better man coverage beater. And staying healthy is his thing. He has played in 16 or more games 7 out of 9 seasons, with two other seasons he has played 15 games. His longevity will also be longer due to the way his game is versus George's very physical game.
I love George and wouldn't trade him for Kelce but Kelce is a better receiver.
Also I really dislike the whole Mahomes argument. Kelce spent 4 years with our friend Alex Smith and had close to 4k yards with him, having an all-pro and 3 pro bowl years. How can people say you're a product of Mahomes when you're a three time pro bowler and all-pro before Mahomes started a single game ?
Sep 6, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:He's really not one plays in a pass first offense where he's the first option while masquerading as a TE when in reality he's a big slot receiver while the other plays in a run heavy offense where he lines up as a te/ol, while I wouldn't say he's a total product of Mahomes he's greatly benefited from playing with him as opposed to Beatherd,Mullins & Jimmy G.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Nobody can run 10 yards deep, turn around, catch a wide open pass from mahomes. That's like 90% of what kelce does. Blows my mind that people think he's better
Kelce's a better receiver. Better man coverage beater. And staying healthy is his thing. He has played in 16 or more games 7 out of 9 seasons, with two other seasons he has played 15 games. His longevity will also be longer due to the way his game is versus George's very physical game.
I love George and wouldn't trade him for Kelce but Kelce is a better receiver.
Also I really dislike the whole Mahomes argument. Kelce spent 4 years with our friend Alex Smith and had close to 4k yards with him, having an all-pro and 3 pro bowl years. How can people say you're a product of Mahomes when you're a three time pro bowler and all-pro before Mahomes started a single game ?
Sep 6, 2023 at 8:55 PM
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:you're rewriting history and selling Kittle short here
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Nobody can run 10 yards deep, turn around, catch a wide open pass from mahomes. That's like 90% of what kelce does. Blows my mind that people think he's better
Kelce's a better receiver. Better man coverage beater. And staying healthy is his thing. He has played in 16 or more games 7 out of 9 seasons, with two other seasons he has played 15 games. His longevity will also be longer due to the way his game is versus George's very physical game.
I love George and wouldn't trade him for Kelce but Kelce is a better receiver.
Also I really dislike the whole Mahomes argument. Kelce spent 4 years with our friend Alex Smith and had close to 4k yards with him, having an all-pro and 3 pro bowl years. How can people say you're a product of Mahomes when you're a three time pro bowler and all-pro before Mahomes started a single game ?
Kittle can do all that Kelce does, but Kelce can't do all what Kittle does
Sep 6, 2023 at 8:58 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
He's really not one plays in a pass first offense where he's the first option while masquerading as a TE when in reality he's a big slot receiver while the other plays in a run heavy offense where he lines up as a te/ol, while I wouldn't say he's a total product of Mahomes he's greatly benefited from playing with him as opposed to Beatherd,Mullins & Jimmy G.
This! I don't see how people think Kelce is a superior route runner to Kittle. He may be more precise here and there but Kelce is slow and like Donnie said, a LOT of his routes are literally running straight up for 6-10 yards wide open and getting tackled a few yards after. Kelce is awesome but Kittle is so much better and explosive in every facet of football.
Sep 6, 2023 at 9:08 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:you're rewriting history and selling Kittle short here
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Nobody can run 10 yards deep, turn around, catch a wide open pass from mahomes. That's like 90% of what kelce does. Blows my mind that people think he's better
Kelce's a better receiver. Better man coverage beater. And staying healthy is his thing. He has played in 16 or more games 7 out of 9 seasons, with two other seasons he has played 15 games. His longevity will also be longer due to the way his game is versus George's very physical game.
I love George and wouldn't trade him for Kelce but Kelce is a better receiver.
Also I really dislike the whole Mahomes argument. Kelce spent 4 years with our friend Alex Smith and had close to 4k yards with him, having an all-pro and 3 pro bowl years. How can people say you're a product of Mahomes when you're a three time pro bowler and all-pro before Mahomes started a single game ?
Kittle can do all that Kelce does, but Kelce can't do all what Kittle does
Kelce is not a true TE. This has been argued ad nauseum. He doesn't block on a consistent basis, doesn't do the dirty TE work, because he doesn't have to in that offense. He's an elite receiver and gets used as such. He also has the best QB on the planet throwing to him.
This is why I don't like the constant comparisons of Kittle to Kelce. They are both being asked to do different things, apples to oranges. But both are elite in their own ways.
Sep 6, 2023 at 9:26 PM
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Originally posted by elguapo:I don't get either Kittles by far the superior player.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
He's really not one plays in a pass first offense where he's the first option while masquerading as a TE when in reality he's a big slot receiver while the other plays in a run heavy offense where he lines up as a te/ol, while I wouldn't say he's a total product of Mahomes he's greatly benefited from playing with him as opposed to Beatherd,Mullins & Jimmy G.
This! I don't see how people think Kelce is a superior route runner to Kittle. He may be more precise here and there but Kelce is slow and like Donnie said, a LOT of his routes are literally running straight up for 6-10 yards wide open and getting tackled a few yards after. Kelce is awesome but Kittle is so much better and explosive in every facet of football.
Sep 8, 2023 at 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you're rewriting history and selling Kittle short here
Kittle can do all that Kelce does, but Kelce can't do all what Kittle does
Rewriting history? Huh? By stating facts such as Kelce was three time pro bowler and all pro before Mahomes even started a game in the NFL? Or that Kelce has stayed injury-free?
A question was asked what does Kelce do better. Nowhere did I rewrite any history. Lol
Sep 8, 2023 at 4:11 AM
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you're rewriting history and selling Kittle short here
Kittle can do all that Kelce does, but Kelce can't do all what Kittle does
Rewriting history? Huh? By stating facts such as Kelce was three time pro bowler and all pro before Mahomes even started a game in the NFL? Or that Kelce has stayed injury-free?
A question was asked what does Kelce do better. Nowhere did I rewrite any history. Lol
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Sep 8, 2023 at 5:51 AM
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QBs would rather have Kelce and HCs would rather have Kittle, that's how I see it.
Both are great in their own ways. If I had to pick I would give the slight edge to Kelce just bc of his health.
We also saw Pat look more human as well without having him. Anybody who's down playing Kelces value just doesn't understand football that well.
Both are great in their own ways. If I had to pick I would give the slight edge to Kelce just bc of his health.
We also saw Pat look more human as well without having him. Anybody who's down playing Kelces value just doesn't understand football that well.
[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on Sep 8, 2023 at 6:10 AM ]