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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And Kelce has shown way more durability that Kittle throughout their careers.

Yeah WRs don't get injured near as much

He certainly doesn't block like Kittle, but is a way better receiver than Kittle, that's the reality. In the end idf*g about Kelce. I just want Kittle on the field, but the dude always has an injury.

I disagree that he's way better hell I disagree that he's the better receiver period Kittle was breaking records with Beatherd & Mullins at QB, I'd imagine Kittle would put up pretty similar numbers to Kelce in that offense with Mahomes at QB, it's all about how they're used.

Kittle doesn't even have as close to as many targets or receptions but if he did he would blow Kelce out of the water. (Like you said with Mullen's Beathard and company he broke the yardage record). He is better at getting yards after the catch, he is a lot faster and he is way more explosive. Kelce has nothing on Kittle except for a better quarterback that throws to him a lot more in an offense that makes him the primary receiver

So you are basically saying Kiltle is better than Kelce, but we don't see the production because Kyle doesn't use him as a pass catcher enough. Interesting perspective, but definitely a valid argument.

Do you think he is being used wrong? He is a great blocker, and Kyle loves that, but I do believe he is often schemed to help the o-line because they need the help, but that does take away from his pass catching opportunities. I get annoyed to as it's almost to a fault, knowing how good George has been in the passing game years past.

Do I think Kittle could be better than Kelce? I would say talent wise yes, but there are two realities that makes this not true as of today imo.

1. He has no where near the injury history of Kelce. His durability isn't exactly a surprise, because of the way Kittle plays, but it's the truth.

2. Kittle is in an offense that hasn't utilized his pass catching abilities like KC has always done with Kelce. Kelce is an absolute miss match nightmare who runs fantastic routes, and know where to find openings to help his QB. Reid uses this every chance he gets. The only thing stopping Kelce is age and if he starts getting hurt (like this week, but so far for him that's a fluke). KC's offense is built around him.

Now having Kittle out there opens up the passing game big time. We saw Purdy LOVED Kittle last year, certainly compared to Jimmy G. So hopefully he gets healthy fast and we can see some serious production from him this year.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And Kelce has shown way more durability that Kittle throughout their careers.

Yeah WRs don't get injured near as much

He certainly doesn't block like Kittle, but is a way better receiver than Kittle, that's the reality. In the end idf*g about Kelce. I just want Kittle on the field, but the dude always has an injury.

I disagree that he's way better hell I disagree that he's the better receiver period Kittle was breaking records with Beatherd & Mullins at QB, I'd imagine Kittle would put up pretty similar numbers to Kelce in that offense with Mahomes at QB, it's all about how they're used.

Kittle doesn't even have as close to as many targets or receptions but if he did he would blow Kelce out of the water. (Like you said with Mullen's Beathard and company he broke the yardage record). He is better at getting yards after the catch, he is a lot faster and he is way more explosive. Kelce has nothing on Kittle except for a better quarterback that throws to him a lot more in an offense that makes him the primary receiver

So you are basically saying Kiltle is better than Kelce, but we don't see the production because Kyle doesn't use him as a pass catcher enough. Interesting perspective, but definitely a valid argument.

Do you think he is being used wrong? He is a great blocker, and Kyle loves that, but I do believe he is often schemed to help the o-line because they need the help, but that does take away from his pass catching opportunities. I get annoyed to as it's almost to a fault, knowing how good George has been in the passing game years past.

Do I think Kittle could be better than Kelce? I would say talent wise yes, but there are two realities that makes this not true as of today imo.

1. He has no where near the injury history of Kelce. His durability isn't exactly a surprise, because of the way Kittle plays, but it's the truth.

2. Kittle is in an offense that hasn't utilized his pass catching abilities like KC has always done with Kelce. Kelce is an absolute miss match nightmare who runs fantastic routes, and know where to find openings to help his QB. Reid uses this every chance he gets. The only thing stopping Kelce is age and if he starts getting hurt (like this week, but so far for him that's a fluke). KC's offense is built around him.

Now having Kittle out there opens up the passing game big time. We saw Purdy LOVED Kittle last year, certainly compared to Jimmy G. So hopefully he gets healthy fast and we can see some serious production from him this year.

Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)

Let's not forget this is all based off the offense Kyle was running with JG under center. He's taken the handcuffs off Purdy and I expect Kittle to have a career year this season. He had 7 TDs in the final 6 weeks with Purdy throwing to him.
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)

Let's not forget this is all based off the offense Kyle was running with JG under center. He's taken the handcuffs off Purdy and I expect Kittle to have a career year this season. He had 7 TDs in the final 6 weeks with Purdy throwing to him.

Definitely agree. Purdy loves to throw to his TE's, and that's why I think Kyle drafted two of them this year. Add that big TE catch and jump radius to Purdy's accuracy and Kyle's play action passing where the TE is a big part of the naked boot pass and you have (what i think) is a pretty unstoppable two tight end set.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I find it funny everyone keeps bringing up his age and calling him old when he is currently 29 lol. Kelce is 33 and still going strong.

Currently both injured though

Kelce is strong physical body than Kittle. Kelce was injury since in 2013. Kittle had some injury and missed the games. Both are different compared it about injury of the years. Mahomes is loss game against the lions because without kelce.
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Sep 8, 2023 at 11:26 AM ]
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Kelce is strong physical body than Kittle. Kelce was injury since in 2013. Kittle had some injury and missed the games. Both are different compared it about injury of the years. Mahomes is loss game against the lions because without kelce.

Kittle plays a much more physical game than Kelce which is why he gets hurt more. Kittle is like an extra Olineman and Kelce rarely blocks at all. And as a receiver Kittle is much more physical.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)

Yeah aren't they good friends? I think they do that TE academy together. (def jokes in there)

I am not saying its bad - Kyles offense vs Reid's, but injuries have stolen many games from Kittle. I know he is an amazing blocker, but I think featuring him more in the passing attack makes the team more deadly.

I would also argue Kelce is wrong. IMO after what we have seen I actually don't exclusively blame Kyle (shocking right lol). I say this because after Jimmy G went down and Purdy came in Kittle's production flew through the roof. Now as Purdy kept playing Kyle may have called some deeper or different passes, but in truth he really didn't change much. That tells me Jimmy G just wasn't seeing and or throwing to a usually open Kittle which I am sure we have all screamed at our tv's at one time or another. Purdy loved him some Kittle and now that he's playing I hope he has 150 yards and 3 TD.

At this point we have so many good players on offense there's only one ball to go around.
If he cant go this Sunday, I feel much more comfortable this year than any another year the team have enough play makers on offense to compensate for not having George.
"He is playing...he is not playing...he is playing...he is not playing...." ARRRRGGGGGG!!!!
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
"He is playing...he is not playing...he is playing...he is not playing...." ARRRRGGGGGG!!!!

20 bucks & a pizza says he is playing
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
"He is playing...he is not playing...he is playing...he is not playing...." ARRRRGGGGGG!!!!

20 bucks & a pizza says he is playing

Kittle 2022 pass blocking snaps- 34
Kelce 2022 pass blocking snaps- 24

Kelce was ranked 49th in that regard and Kittle was ranked 32nd.

KC 2022 offense- 61% pass/ 39% run
49ers 2022 offense- 50% pass/ 50% run

Not only does KC pass the ball a majority of the time but Kelce is their #1 and only real receiving weapon on offense. 49ers are the most balanced offense not just in terms of run and pass but also with the weapons they have all over the field and the distribution of the ball to those weapons.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)

Hope not CMC 2 in Deebo. I don't want to see him running anymore. It's been figured out and he's bound to get cracked bad doing that. I hope he sticks to catching the ball
[ Edited by ninerfan818 on Oct 12, 2023 at 1:33 PM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kelce himself said the only difference between he and Kittle is that Andy Reid features him in the passing game and Kyle doesn't. Kyle runs the b***h.

Agree, the run game for Kyle is the kind of feature that Andy does for Kelce. So where Kelce is featured in the KC offense, I think CMC will be featured in the Kyle offense. Nice thing about Kyle's offense is that you have CMC1 and CMC2 (Deebo)

Let's not forget this is all based off the offense Kyle was running with JG under center. He's taken the handcuffs off Purdy and I expect Kittle to have a career year this season. He had 7 TDs in the final 6 weeks with Purdy throwing to him.
Kyle must hate jg, cause he let BDN and BCB use Kittle
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