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1st Team All Pro - TE George Kittle Thread

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

What ... the throw went straight through his hands.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

Uh no dude. Catch the ball, no excuse.
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by okdkid:
This guy gets so many excuses made for him.

People will point to his production on select games. But he's an average TE through and through. You can plop any middling TE into this offense with Garoppolo and he'd do just as well as Kittle. He isn't Kelce, nor Gronk. He's not above average. He's just a dude. I hope he can get his hands right. This was an issue last year. We need an upgrade here in the offseason.

How can anyone say he's average? One of the top statistical performances of any rookie tight end last year while battling injuries and it wasn't just because of Jimmy.

First game in year two and he has almost 100 yards. Was missed by Jimmy wide open in the end zone. And the "drop" on second look could be argued as an overthrow. Even still, those things happen. Even Gronk doesn't haul in 100 percent of plays like that one. To bash him and say he's average after his first game in year two -- a productive one at that where he led the team in catches and yards -- and considering all other facts, just seems wildly premature.. But that's just me..

Because Garopplo would allow any middle of the pack TE to have this level of production. Guys like Kittle are available in the middle rounds of every draft.
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
[putting on flame retardant suit] I like Kittle but I don't think he is our long term answer at TE, I don't think he is a good enough athlete for what we need... just having speed and measurables doesn't necessarily equate to being a good athlete... to me Kittle doesn't look natural catching the ball, he looks very mechanical, like he is struggling to catch the ball... when I see the great pass catchers the ball just comes in when they catch it and looks like it is part of their hands, I don't see that with GK

I agree.

He's okay for now. We could do much better.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
[putting on flame retardant suit] I like Kittle but I don't think he is our long term answer at TE, I don't think he is a good enough athlete for what we need... just having speed and measurables doesn't necessarily equate to being a good athlete... to me Kittle doesn't look natural catching the ball, he looks very mechanical, like he is struggling to catch the ball... when I see the great pass catchers the ball just comes in when they catch it and looks like it is part of their hands, I don't see that with GK

I agree.

He's okay for now. We could do much better.


in my opinion ... you two will live to eat those words ... at least 3 pro bowls for kittle
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Originally posted by swaccmac1:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
[putting on flame retardant suit] I like Kittle but I don't think he is our long term answer at TE, I don't think he is a good enough athlete for what we need... just having speed and measurables doesn't necessarily equate to being a good athlete... to me Kittle doesn't look natural catching the ball, he looks very mechanical, like he is struggling to catch the ball... when I see the great pass catchers the ball just comes in when they catch it and looks like it is part of their hands, I don't see that with GK

I agree.

He's okay for now. We could do much better.


in my opinion ... you two will live to eat those words ... at least 3 pro bowls for kittle

I think he will do well with Jimmy, no doubt. What I'm talking about are "special" traits. He has none. He is not easily replaced midseason. But he can be in the offseason. I would imagine the Niners let his rookie contract play out and focus on another TE option at that time.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by swaccmac1:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
[putting on flame retardant suit] I like Kittle but I don't think he is our long term answer at TE, I don't think he is a good enough athlete for what we need... just having speed and measurables doesn't necessarily equate to being a good athlete... to me Kittle doesn't look natural catching the ball, he looks very mechanical, like he is struggling to catch the ball... when I see the great pass catchers the ball just comes in when they catch it and looks like it is part of their hands, I don't see that with GK

I agree.

He's okay for now. We could do much better.


in my opinion ... you two will live to eat those words ... at least 3 pro bowls for kittle

I think he will do well with Jimmy, no doubt. What I'm talking about are "special" traits. He has none. He is not easily replaced midseason. But he can be in the offseason. I would imagine the Niners let his rookie contract play out and focus on another TE option at that time.

Uh, for the doubters, name many better TE's picked in the last 3 years? You could say Evan Engram (but he can't block), how many others? It's a position that takes time to develop, and he was a 5th round pick! Chill out and let the kid grow, OJ Howard and David Njoku are having the exact same (if not more) issues, and they were 1st rounders
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by okdkid:
This guy gets so many excuses made for him.

People will point to his production on select games. But he's an average TE through and through. You can plop any middling TE into this offense with Garoppolo and he'd do just as well as Kittle. He isn't Kelce, nor Gronk. He's not above average. He's just a dude. I hope he can get his hands right. This was an issue last year. We need an upgrade here in the offseason.

How can anyone say he's average? One of the top statistical performances of any rookie tight end last year while battling injuries and it wasn't just because of Jimmy.

First game in year two and he has almost 100 yards. Was missed by Jimmy wide open in the end zone. And the "drop" on second look could be argued as an overthrow. Even still, those things happen. Even Gronk doesn't haul in 100 percent of plays like that one. To bash him and say he's average after his first game in year two -- a productive one at that where he led the team in catches and yards -- and considering all other facts, just seems wildly premature.. But that's just me..



Thats what happens when you slow down running your route

At the end of the day, 100 percent blame either way wouldn't be right.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by swaccmac1:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
[putting on flame retardant suit] I like Kittle but I don't think he is our long term answer at TE, I don't think he is a good enough athlete for what we need... just having speed and measurables doesn't necessarily equate to being a good athlete... to me Kittle doesn't look natural catching the ball, he looks very mechanical, like he is struggling to catch the ball... when I see the great pass catchers the ball just comes in when they catch it and looks like it is part of their hands, I don't see that with GK

I agree.

He's okay for now. We could do much better.


in my opinion ... you two will live to eat those words ... at least 3 pro bowls for kittle

I think he will do well with Jimmy, no doubt. What I'm talking about are "special" traits. He has none. He is not easily replaced midseason. But he can be in the offseason. I would imagine the Niners let his rookie contract play out and focus on another TE option at that time.

Uh, for the doubters, name many better TE's picked in the last 3 years? You could say Evan Engram (but he can't block), how many others? It's a position that takes time to develop, and he was a 5th round pick! Chill out and let the kid grow, OJ Howard and David Njoku are having the exact same (if not more) issues, and they were 1st rounders

EXCELLENT retort BigMac!

Let the kid grow and, IMO, we'll have one of the best TE in the league.

My main concern for him is injuries.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

Would be nice if we had a gif of the play to look at again. Hilarious that everyone is not only crapping on the most productive player in the game on Sunday because of one missed catch, they are actually giving up on his career already after one season in the NFL, despite his numbers. Lmao
The whole offense just need to focus and forget about who good they were last year when we started winning with Grappy...
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

Would be nice if we had a gif of the play to look at again. Hilarious that everyone is not only crapping on the most productive player in the game on Sunday because of one missed catch, they are actually giving up on his career already after one season in the NFL, despite his numbers. Lmao
What's even funnier is saying it was a bad throw and making excuses for a bone headed play by an injury prone back up at best

Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

Would be nice if we had a gif of the play to look at again. Hilarious that everyone is not only crapping on the most productive player in the game on Sunday because of one missed catch, they are actually giving up on his career already after one season in the NFL, despite his numbers. Lmao
What's even funnier is saying it was a bad throw and making excuses for a bone headed play by an injury prone back up at best


Didn't say it was a bad throw, just could have been better. Thats a tough catch for a TE to make.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM ]
nope nope nope..

the turning point IMO was when Alfred Morris was dumb enough to NOT hold on to the ball right after fumbling it on the play before.. .you figure, the first thing he needs to do is hold it as tight as possible because the defense saw what they can do w/his handle..
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In his defense of the drop the throw could have been better.

Would be nice if we had a gif of the play to look at again. Hilarious that everyone is not only crapping on the most productive player in the game on Sunday because of one missed catch, they are actually giving up on his career already after one season in the NFL, despite his numbers. Lmao

Im sure thl and jonny are on it.
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