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WR Trent Taylor-Round 5-Pick 177
Sep 21, 2017 at 10:33 PM
- valrod33
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his drop was killer, he was lucky he fell on his own fumble.
Sep 21, 2017 at 10:33 PM
- jcs
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Originally posted by Predator85:
He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Sep 21, 2017 at 10:40 PM
- zonkers
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Originally posted by valrod33:
his drop was killer, he was lucky he fell on his own fumble.
Unless he beefs up, he's got to be careful exposing himself to big hits. I had Kyle Williams flashbacks on that play.
Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by jcs:I think that's how the route was supposed to be run based on the playcall. The CB had inside leverage. Taylor breaks outwards, gets separation, then turns back into the CB on the inside. There's no way he does that unless that's what he was supposed to do, I think. Hoyer was waiting for Taylor to break back towards the inside before throwing the ball. It's a double move to shake man coverage, but Taylor won on the initial break. Odd play. I think Kyle will be asked about this play at some point this week.
Originally posted by Predator85:
He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Sep 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM
- RidetheHyde
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He's gonna make some plays this year. Let him develop. They obviously have faith in him in clutch situations already. The penalty was bs his route was so great it looked like a penalty
Sep 22, 2017 at 12:08 AM
- Jasta
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jcs:I think that's how the route was supposed to be run based on the playcall. The CB had inside leverage. Taylor breaks outwards, gets separation, then turns back into the CB on the inside. There's no way he does that unless that's what he was supposed to do, I think. Hoyer was waiting for Taylor to break back towards the inside before throwing the ball. It's a double move to shake man coverage, but Taylor won on the initial break. Odd play. I think Kyle will be asked about this play at some point this week.
Originally posted by Predator85:
He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Hoyer said as much in his interview. Taylor played it how it was drawn up and Hoyer wouldn't have expected him to keep going.
Sep 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM
- lamontb
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Needs to be more involved in the game plan. Nice player
[ Edited by lamontb on Sep 22, 2017 at 12:12 AM ]
Sep 22, 2017 at 12:11 AM
- bvc49
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Hoyer sucks
Sep 22, 2017 at 12:15 AM
- pdizo916
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What a fifth round find. I'm noticing that these guys from small schools get selected much later in teh draft. I think from the fourth round on, Lynch should look at smaller conferences to draft in. There's some real jewels to be found.
Sep 22, 2017 at 12:21 AM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by Jasta:Originally posted by thl408:I think that's how the route was supposed to be run based on the playcall. The CB had inside leverage. Taylor breaks outwards, gets separation, then turns back into the CB on the inside. There's no way he does that unless that's what he was supposed to do, I think. Hoyer was waiting for Taylor to break back towards the inside before throwing the ball. It's a double move to shake man coverage, but Taylor won on the initial break. Odd play. I think Kyle will be asked about this play at some point this week.Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by Predator85:He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Hoyer said as much in his interview. Taylor played it how it was drawn up and Hoyer wouldn't have expected him to keep going.
Yup it's Hoyers fault, it wasn't there, he should've went through his reads, or better yet Shanahan should have ran it with Hyde I feel..
Sep 22, 2017 at 6:20 AM
- 49erInTheMidwest
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I liked this kid on draft day, he's continued to grow on me. Yeah, he had a drop.. but Aldrick had 2 really bad ones, Kittle had a bad drop, Goodwin week 1, it happens.
His character in not blowing up about the bad call post game says a lot. He's tough. Has really nice hands. And runs some fantastic routes.
The 2 pt was not his fault IMO. He got open quick and sat down as soon as he was in a scoring position. He was the 1st read, Hoyer never looked anywhere else. Also, it had to be quick.. Hoyer could've been sacked in 2 seconds. If Hoyer throw some it the moment Trent turns or even whips his head he scores easy because the route was perfectly ran. Instead Hoyer hesitates AND leaves the ball inside.
The 2pt was not Trent's fault.
His character in not blowing up about the bad call post game says a lot. He's tough. Has really nice hands. And runs some fantastic routes.
The 2 pt was not his fault IMO. He got open quick and sat down as soon as he was in a scoring position. He was the 1st read, Hoyer never looked anywhere else. Also, it had to be quick.. Hoyer could've been sacked in 2 seconds. If Hoyer throw some it the moment Trent turns or even whips his head he scores easy because the route was perfectly ran. Instead Hoyer hesitates AND leaves the ball inside.
The 2pt was not Trent's fault.
Sep 22, 2017 at 6:23 AM
- PopeyeJonesing
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Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
His character in not blowing up about the bad call post game says a lot.
TBH he didn't seem that surprised about the call to begin with, whereas the Rams defender jumped up calling for OPI immediately.
Would be nice to be able to see a usable camera angle on that call.
The announcers comparing him to both Welker and Amendola was
Sep 22, 2017 at 9:18 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by jersey49er:Oh Hoyer confirmed it? Yeah that's what it looked like. What Taylor did goes against what a WR thinks is logical. He broke back to where the coverage was. Hoyer has to know that Taylor's route is intended to break back to the inside, read the CB's leverage (inside), and red light the route. Not sure where else Hoyer could have gone with the ball but Taylor's route was not going to succeed based on the positioning of the CB.
Originally posted by Jasta:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jcs:I think that's how the route was supposed to be run based on the playcall. The CB had inside leverage. Taylor breaks outwards, gets separation, then turns back into the CB on the inside. There's no way he does that unless that's what he was supposed to do, I think. Hoyer was waiting for Taylor to break back towards the inside before throwing the ball. It's a double move to shake man coverage, but Taylor won on the initial break. Odd play. I think Kyle will be asked about this play at some point this week.
Originally posted by Predator85:
He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Hoyer said as much in his interview. Taylor played it how it was drawn up and Hoyer wouldn't have expected him to keep going.
Yup it's Hoyers fault, it wasn't there, he should've went through his reads, or better yet Shanahan should have ran it with Hyde I feel..
Sep 22, 2017 at 9:36 AM
- kujon11
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jersey49er:Oh Hoyer confirmed it? Yeah that's what it looked like. What Taylor did goes against what a WR thinks is logical. He broke back to where the coverage was. Hoyer has to know that Taylor's route is intended to break back to the inside, read the CB's leverage (inside), and red light the route. Not sure where else Hoyer could have gone with the ball but Taylor's route was not going to succeed based on the positioning of the CB.
Originally posted by Jasta:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jcs:I think that's how the route was supposed to be run based on the playcall. The CB had inside leverage. Taylor breaks outwards, gets separation, then turns back into the CB on the inside. There's no way he does that unless that's what he was supposed to do, I think. Hoyer was waiting for Taylor to break back towards the inside before throwing the ball. It's a double move to shake man coverage, but Taylor won on the initial break. Odd play. I think Kyle will be asked about this play at some point this week.
Originally posted by Predator85:
He would of had the 2 point conversion if he ran towards the back endzone, instead he ran an out and back into the defender. Not sure if its a read play or he had to run that route.
Rookie mistake... I hope he learns from this.
Hoyer said as much in his interview. Taylor played it how it was drawn up and Hoyer wouldn't have expected him to keep going.
Yup it's Hoyers fault, it wasn't there, he should've went through his reads, or better yet Shanahan should have ran it with Hyde I feel..
i personally think that was the route that was called. to me, it looked like it was the same route that he ran with the td but on the opposite side
Sep 22, 2017 at 9:42 AM
- 9moon
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Even if Taylor had run the wrong route, if you look at the pass, you can tell Hoyer lead him as if there was no defender there... he should have drilled the ball to Taylor.. Hoyer didn't expect the defender to be there and threw it on that spot..