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Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by gored49:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by gored49:
Originally posted by gored49:
When was the last time a drafted rookie WR scored a touchdown for us?

Nobody know the answer? My guess is going to be Crabtree in 2009?

Trent Taylor scored a TD yesterday.
My bad. That was the point of my question. Before Trent Taylor is my question. While I want to know the answer, I think that is a really good sign for Trent and at least an ok sign for Lynch that he is already (1 draft) better than Baalke at drafting WRs.
Bruce Ellington had 2 TD receptions his rookie season.

Then took an arrow to the knee.

And hamstrings, ankles, groin and every leg area
Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
If that POS ref didn't go blind Taylor would've set up a game winning drive. He's playing great for a rookie so far, especially where we drafted him.

I still worry about his size though. Guys are going to take huge hits on him to try to get the ball out. It almost worked yesterday. I think he may have been KO'd for a second.

He likes to fight for extra yards which is one of the great things about him, but he needs to learn to not take hits sometimes
Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Someone please play devils advocate and tell me how he commited offensive PI.

He kind of boxed out the CB before he broke to the outside. Maybe there was some hand play, but IMO he won with his feet on that one.
The ref might've seen the box out and the CB reaching out (because he knew he lost Taylor) and assumed that was only possible if Taylor initiated contact and pushed off.
Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
If that POS ref didn't go blind Taylor would've set up a game winning drive. He's playing great for a rookie so far, especially where we drafted him.

I still worry about his size though. Guys are going to take huge hits on him to try to get the ball out. It almost worked yesterday. I think he may have been KO'd for a second.

Yes he was out & the ball was loose as he hit the ground. Still shocked he stayed in the game
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Someone please play devils advocate and tell me how he commited offensive PI.

He kind of boxed out the CB before he broke to the outside. Maybe there was some hand play, but IMO he won with his feet on that one.
The ref might've seen the box out and the CB reaching out (because he knew he lost Taylor) and assumed that was only possible if Taylor initiated contact and pushed off.

I think another reason why some are irritated( I was drunk or i probably woulda been pissed AF and woulda ruined my entire night lol)... Is cause of the circumstance late in the game AND youd think tie would go to the runner. Lets not bs, you cant see s**t there and even if he did minimally the the tie should go to the runner and you SHOULD NOT call that.

For gods sake i mean its not like it was guaranteeing us a victory and theyre like "oh we gotta call that" lol... No excuse to make the call, that s**t was Madden status where we caught a couple breaks and then the CPU f**ks you at the end
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Sep 22, 2017 at 7:40 PM ]
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Someone please play devils advocate and tell me how he commited offensive PI.

He kind of boxed out the CB before he broke to the outside. Maybe there was some hand play, but IMO he won with his feet on that one.
The ref might've seen the box out and the CB reaching out (because he knew he lost Taylor) and assumed that was only possible if Taylor initiated contact and pushed off.

I think another reason why some are irritated( I was drunk or i probably woulda been pissed AF and woulda ruined my entire night lol)... Is cause of the circumstance late in the game AND youd think tie would go to the runner. Lets not bs, you cant see s**t there and even if he did minimally the the tie should go to the runner and you SHOULD NOT call that.

For gods sake i mean its not like it was guaranteeing us a victory and theyre like "oh we gotta call that" lol... No excuse to make the call, that s**t was Madden status where we caught a couple breaks and then the CPU f**ks you at the end

That ref seeing Taylor separate for the first time:

Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Someone please play devils advocate and tell me how he commited offensive PI.

He kind of boxed out the CB before he broke to the outside. Maybe there was some hand play, but IMO he won with his feet on that one.
The ref might've seen the box out and the CB reaching out (because he knew he lost Taylor) and assumed that was only possible if Taylor initiated contact and pushed off.

I think another reason why some are irritated( I was drunk or i probably woulda been pissed AF and woulda ruined my entire night lol)... Is cause of the circumstance late in the game AND youd think tie would go to the runner. Lets not bs, you cant see s**t there and even if he did minimally the the tie should go to the runner and you SHOULD NOT call that.

For gods sake i mean its not like it was guaranteeing us a victory and theyre like "oh we gotta call that" lol... No excuse to make the call, that s**t was Madden status where we caught a couple breaks and then the CPU f**ks you at the end

That ref seeing Taylor separate for the first time:


Lol.

Watch the play again. The direction #23 is running while he covers Taylor is hardly altered when the extremely questionable contact by TT comes into play. If he does make any contact at all it doesn't help him get any more open for the catch. That ref's head was so far up his ass he needed a new glass stomach.
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Can't tell from here
Originally posted by thl408:
Can't tell from here

Taylor definitely nudges him, but his arm never extends.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by thl408:
Can't tell from here

Taylor definitely nudges him, but his arm never extends.

wow, what a bs call
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by thl408:
Can't tell from here

Taylor definitely nudges him, but his arm never extends.

wow, what a bs call

Yeah really. This is as egregiously a bulls**t call as I've ever seen. Taylor runs his route exactly as he was coached. Easy as f**k no call.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by thl408:
Can't tell from here

Taylor definitely nudges him, but his arm never extends.

wow, what a bs call

Yeah really. This is as egregiously a bulls**t call as I've ever seen. Taylor runs his route exactly as he was coached. Easy as f**k no call.

The Rams sideline had zero reaction. Even the DB didnt react until he saw the flag and was like "oh I better make it look like he pushed off".
Well the rule states the following:

Section 4 - Legal and Illegal Contact with Eligible Receivers

Article 3. Illegal Contact Beyond Five-Yard Zone

Beyond the five-yard zone, if the player who receives the snap remains in the pocket with the ball, a defender cannot initiate contact with a receiver who is attempting to evade him. A defender may use his hands or arms only to defend or protect himself against impending contact caused by a receiver.

Emphasis on the part in bold / underlined - initiate contact. Now, I have watched the videos, and the quality of the better angle / above is not good. So, this is just what I am seeing. But, it looks like the defender initiates contact with his left hand and Trent flicks it away with his arm (I do not see Trent's arm motion / flick, but the defender kinda waves his left hand up and out as you see above, and I think that is in response to Trent kind of flicking it away). Thus, and again, based on the poor quality of the video above (no offense to the camera operator) if you are going to make a call, by rule, it ought to have been illegal contact because it looks like Trent is running and the defender initiates contact.

Further, it does not look like one can make a strong argument that Trent initiates contact and or that the defender is protecting himself against impending contact based on the angles each player is running (can compare using the numbers / sideline / and starting-ending positions between the 45 and the 40). Trent seems to be taking a shallow angle toward the sideline (view his approximate distance from the Rams' sideline between the 45 and the 40) and compare it to the much sharper angle the defender is taking. The defender's angle "cuts off" Trent's route, and to me, it is the defender who is initiating contact.

Section 5 - Pass Interference

Article 1. Definition It is pass interference by either team when any act by a player more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage significantly hinders an eligible player's opportunity to catch the ball. Pass interference can only occur when a forward pass is thrown from behind the line of scrimmage, regardless of whether the pass is legal or illegal, or whether it crosses the line.

Based on the definition, I do not see how it was PI on either guy.
[ Edited by Polkadots on Sep 23, 2017 at 12:53 AM ]
Its okay guys. Think about draft positioning
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