Really? Vegas picks us for 4.5 Ws...

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by LVJay:
Those gut damn crooks and their percentages

Pretty much, thats why I like teasers and parlays.

Wow. You had the nerve to talk down to me in the other thread pumped yourself up as a seasoned sports better.....

....and then proceed to say you like playing teasers and parlays.



The audacity. Unreal.

Oh yes... it's on... again

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
When I read this BS when it came out I went straight to gambling sites to lay down some bread on my Niners, but they wanted me to signup and give them personal info and Homey don't play that.. Oh well, but I dare say there will be more than 4.5 wins. I'd say at least 6.. Niners..!

LMAO Ikr?!!

I almost got tempted in the past one day (the local casinos all have online apps too)... I hate the lines at sports books sometimes, then the parking and s**t. The apps are convenient and all, but the books (betting inside casino) don't tax you unless you win a lot. I'm not sure about the apps though, I think Uncle Sammy will hit you up at the end of the year on wins (even small earnings)

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Wow. You had the nerve to talk down to me in the other thread pumped yourself up as a seasoned sports better.....

....and then proceed to say you like playing teasers and parlays.



The audacity. Unreal.

Originally posted by LVJay:

Oh yes... it's on... again

I doubt he even knows what a teaser is. Teasers are easy money if you know what you are doing, which he obviously doesn't.

And of course I like parlays. I hit a few 4 way parlays every year and they pay 10-1. I always put down a hundred and I play one every week. Even if I lost 10 straight which I never have im still making money if I hit 2 a year. I usually hit 3-4 a year.

And yes, I have the audacity to make easy money when the opportunity presents itself. Parlays can be a useful tool if you can make picks and have a good system in place.

Whats wrong with parlays and teasers?

Originally posted by JBrack:
I doubt he even knows what a teaser is. Teasers are easy money if you know what you are doing, which he obviously doesn't.

Do you do online, card or on the board.... where are u, in Vegas / Reno??

Originally posted by LVJay:

Do you do online, card or on the board.... where are u, in Vegas / Reno??

I use a bookie and place bets online through a website.

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by LVJay:
Do you do online, card or on the board.... where are u, in Vegas / Reno??

I use a bookie and place bets online through a website.

Oh ok... does online let you do [everything] the actual sports book allows? Also, since online tracks and records all your W / L, how does taxes work on that? i'm pretty sure Uncle Sam don't give a flying **** about losses but will still tax on earnings. Yes/No?

Originally posted by LVJay:

Oh ok... does online let you do [everything] the actual sports book allows? Also, since online tracks and records all your W / L, how does taxes work on that? i'm pretty sure Uncle Sam don't give a flying **** about losses but will still tax on earnings. Yes/No?

Its up to you to report any winnings. The website has nothing to do with taxes. Most websites are illegal infact.

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by LVJay:
Oh ok... does online let you do [everything] the actual sports book allows? Also, since online tracks and records all your W / L, how does taxes work on that? i'm pretty sure Uncle Sam don't give a flying **** about losses but will still tax on earnings. Yes/No?

Its up to you to report any winnings. The website has nothing to do with taxes. Most websites are illegal infact.

Yes, correct, the offshore ones for sure. The ones in states that allow it (Nevada is the only one I know for now) are legit tho, but I think you still have to be in the same state in order to use it... though, I do believe they'll report your winnings (the online).

On the other hand, when you win a certain amount (big) and go inside to collect your earnings, they will ask you to fill out a form and/or you can just let them take the percentage (for Uncle) out themselves... don't quote me on that, it's been a long time since I've cashed out thousands. I usually bet in quantities nowadays to prevent getting taxed on one big payout tho

Originally posted by LVJay:

Yes, correct, the offshore ones for sure. The ones in states that allow it (Nevada is the only one I know for now) are legit tho, but I think you still have to be in the same state in order to use it... though, I do believe they'll report your winnings (the online).

On the other hand, when you win a certain amount (big) and go inside to collect your earnings, they will ask you to fill out a form and/or you can just let them take the percentage (for Uncle) out themselves... don't quote me on that, it's been a long time since I've cashed out thousands. I usually bet in quantities nowadays to prevent getting taxed on one big payout tho

They will ask if you want to pay it on the spot but you don't have to. But they will report the income to the IRS so you better not forget.

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by LVJay:
Yes, correct, the offshore ones for sure. The ones in states that allow it (Nevada is the only one I know for now) are legit tho, but I think you still have to be in the same state in order to use it... though, I do believe they'll report your winnings (the online).

On the other hand, when you win a certain amount (big) and go inside to collect your earnings, they will ask you to fill out a form and/or you can just let them take the percentage (for Uncle) out themselves... don't quote me on that, it's been a long time since I've cashed out thousands. I usually bet in quantities nowadays to prevent getting taxed on one big payout tho

The will ask if you want to pay it on the spot but you don't have to. But they will report the income to the IRS so you better not forget.

That's why I was reluctant to do the online here in Vegas. When I was in the Bay, I used the bookie so no need with reporting anything. These legit sites in state aren't in my best interest. They want too much info and plus they will tax that ass. I don't even think the IRS gives AF if you win (let's use this figure for example) $22,000 but lose $$23,000... that's not a winning season, and in fact, the bettor is $1000 in the hole. Having said that, I still think IRS will hit you up on the $22,000 you won

Originally posted by LVJay:

That's why I was reluctant to do the online here in Vegas. When I was in the Bay, I used the bookie so no need with reporting anything. These legit sites in state aren't in my best interest. They want too much info and plus they will tax that ass. I don't even think the IRS gives AF if you win (let's use this figure for example) $22,000 but lose $$23,000... that's not a winning season, and in fact, the bettor is $1000 in the hole. Having said that, I still think IRS will hit you up on the $22,000 you won

You can definitely file losses and winnings with the IRS. There are lots of professional gamblers out there.

You have to bet big to win big and I just don't have the money to be placing $5,000 bets. Im a modest player. On a good weekend ill have maybe $1,000 in play spread over multiple bets.

After its all said and done though I don't make much money if any at all. Its gambling, lots of ups and downs.

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by LVJay:
That's why I was reluctant to do the online here in Vegas. When I was in the Bay, I used the bookie so no need with reporting anything. These legit sites in state aren't in my best interest. They want too much info and plus they will tax that ass. I don't even think the IRS gives AF if you win (let's use this figure for example) $22,000 but lose $$23,000... that's not a winning season, and in fact, the bettor is $1000 in the hole. Having said that, I still think IRS will hit you up on the $22,000 you won

You can definitely file losses and winnings with the IRS. There are lots of professional gamblers out there.

Yes no doubt, I'm surrounded by some who do well and a lot who mismanage their budget ... I'm below small time. I don't have the balls to do this professionally. I would if I had a couple hundred thousand to start off with tho.

Originally posted by LVJay:

Yes no doubt, I'm surrounded by some who do well and a lot who mismanage their budget ... I'm below small time. I don't have the balls to do this professionally. I would if I had a couple hundred thousand to start off with tho.

Yeah me either, if I was to do it though it would be with poker mostly. Something I have more control over.

A couple hundred thousand would definitely help give me the balls too though

9 wins with some surprise performances
you have to take into account that scouting our team Will be at our advantage

I think that the vets we signed will show them young guys how to conduct themselves and how to win and I think on the strength of the front office and yes J. York included that these players rookies and vets want to be here... so I'm saying 8-8

Four or five wins if they're lucky. This was a 2-14 team last year, the FA signings are almost all replacement level guys, and you've got to figure in that every fanbase of every team thinks they just got better right after the draft.

Then you have to factor in that KS' offense takes a couple years to really install (think of Matt Ryan two years ago, not last year), and that the 9ers starting QB is a replacement level journeymen who has yet to make it through a full season without getting injured.

People expecting a quick turn-around to a .500 (or close to it) team, let alone BETTING on that quick turn-around, are fooling themselves, IMO.

The exact same thing happened last year with the transition from Tomsula (who couldn't be worse, supposedly) to Chip Kelly, and the 9ers ended up losing two more games under Kelly than they did under Tomsula.