The Iron-Pyrite-Lining Thread (Negative people come on in!)

Originally posted by evil:

What makes Mayhew unfit to fill a Senior Personnel role with the team ? Will his 15+ years of experience as a FO exec help or hurt John Lynch and this organization ?

Right? I mean all the GMs with multiple SBs are currently employed for a reason lol.

He might as well say his #1 get was bill belichick

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Right? I mean all the GMs with multiple SBs are currently employed for a reason lol.

He might as well say his #1 get was bill belichick

Essentially, all he's been saying this entire thread is, and I'm paraphrasing of course, that it is better to gamble on an unknown then to cross our fingers for someone who, in his opinion, has proven to have absolutely 0 chance at a Superbowl. What makes him qualified to make this opinion is the question, but it is a valid point. I'd much rather draft a Trubisky then sign a Cutler. Trubs has maybe a 20% chance vs Cutler at 1%. How cousins has ever proven ANYTHING other than the potential to be a top qb tho, is lost on me, thus making his point moot.

Furthermore, he then argues against his only valid point, by saying we are directionless because we're gambling on Lynch, someone who's a complete question mark, when the only other options were, in his mind, s**tty gm's seeing as to how they've never sniffed a superbowl.

There are plenty of reasons to be concerned, to have questions, or to be unsure. But the cynicism based purely off of hyperbole and hypocrisy is unwarranted, ridiculous, and tired.

Originally posted by evil:
What makes Mayhew unfit to fill a Senior Personnel role with the team ? Will his 15+ years of experience as a FO exec help or hurt John Lynch and this organization ?

evil, if he can't answer these questions how is this not trolling ?

he can't answer anything that he is spewing, just posting s**t to incite

Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

There's negative, then theres trolling

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

There's negative, then theres trolling

Like how you troll the Alex smith thread?

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

There's negative, then theres trolling

Like how you troll the Alex smith thread?

example ?

Bring back the gold pants.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Right? I mean all the GMs with multiple SBs are currently employed for a reason lol.

He might as well say his #1 get was bill belichick

Essentially, all he's been saying this entire thread is, and I'm paraphrasing of course, that it is better to gamble on an unknown then to cross our fingers for someone who, in his opinion, has proven to have absolutely 0 chance at a Superbowl. What makes him qualified to make this opinion is the question, but it is a valid point. I'd much rather draft a Trubisky then sign a Cutler. Trubs has maybe a 20% chance vs Cutler at 1%. How cousins has ever proven ANYTHING other than the potential to be a top qb tho, is lost on me, thus making his point moot.

Furthermore, he then argues against his only valid point, by saying we are directionless because we're gambling on Lynch, someone who's a complete question mark, when the only other options were, in his mind, s**tty gm's seeing as to how they've never sniffed a superbowl.

There are plenty of reasons to be concerned, to have questions, or to be unsure. But the cynicism based purely off of hyperbole and hypocrisy is unwarranted, ridiculous, and tired.

Trubisky has maybe a 5% chance to be that successful. He has maybe a 30% chance of being Alex Smith. Just my opinion, but I watched his highlights and I saw nothing special. I saw a guy that consistently under-threw his deep ball and a guy that ran lots of quick action plays (screens, run/pass options, etc).

I would much rather take a guy like Kirk Cousins who has an arm and can move the ball, and then pair him with some good coaching that can set him up for success.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

There's negative, then theres trolling

Like how you troll the Alex smith thread?

example ?

Send private messages to each other. Don't derail this thread.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are people complaining about negative posts in a negative thread?

Misleading thread title, imo.

There's negative, then theres trolling

Like how you troll the Alex smith thread?

example ?

Send private messages to each other. Don't derail this thread.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Mitch is NOT big boy talent lol, he's a 13 game starter in a spread offense. You b***h about no experience yet you keep coming back to one of the least experienced qbs to get drafted at two in forever as part of your argument. Quit being a hypocrite.

That must be why he was taken 2 overall.

And your parallel is dumb because Lynch is like a QB being drafted who's literally never played a down of football.

And Watson was a 3-year starter; he had plenty of experience, if that's what you're looking for.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
You're right. GM of the Lions. He took the 0-16 Lions and turned them into a playoff team.

2 playoff appearances and zero wins in 7 years even with a franchise QB he took 1 overall. Canton will surely ready a bust for him.

What makes Mayhew unfit to fill a Senior Personnel role with the team ? Will his 15+ years of experience as a FO exec help or hurt John Lynch and this organization ?

Nothing. I have no problem with him as an executive w/ the team. My problem is with Lynch.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
That is a fair assessment, LeP.

QB we knew about because Kyle and John made a conscientious effort to avoid taking a FR QB...when there was none. Trubs, with a one yr hx of work? As a FR QB? Man, that isn't betting on the come...that's betting on prayers...nothing more. So good for CHI...unhh...good luck, that is. But this was a decision, the right one, made well in advance of Draft. This was a "Pick the best FA out there who kyle knows and can work wth plus he knows Kyle's WCO. So good...no, excellent decision here. Get the 16-20 other pieces we need as starters and leave FR QB and #1 WR for next yr. Sadly with the #2 pick in draft, there were NO FR QBs this yr. Good for shanalyn for realizing it early on. And we did for the first time in years, get a developmental QB, the only one kyle thot was worthy in the entire draft...CJ. so QB not fixed but Shalyn have got us in a very good spot .We got our guy and backup for this yr, we got our developmental QB, and we got $100 mil in cap next yr, PLUS an extra 2nd and 3rd rd pick. It is not fixed but we are off to a good start. Plus we got the Kyle - Cousins link from before. And he did not sign a LT deal. So we are still in the mix for Cousins.

Pass rush: what's to say other than we got the best DL in the draft (Solly), we got the best LB in the draft(Reuben), we got the best DL in last yrs draft(DeFo), we took our #1 pick the previous yr on the draft(AA), Bow is back and reportedly is playing well, and we still got Ahmed Brooks. Additionally we added DJ, Mitchell, Pita, Dooms, Blair...plus 4 other LBs, all waiting to show us their wares...our front 7 looks to be awesome...now, we just néed to see them prove it. I strongly believe they will.

Which leaves D backfield. And here I am going to need some convincing. This is the one i am concerned about, but then again, i just have no idea what we have here.

In sum LeP we are in agreement with good moves made...OL, OW, RB, new WRs, new TEs , terrific front 7, but most importantly, we got the Yorks out of the football decison business and two hot shots at HC/OC and GM...both unproven but both have made terrific choices so far, but now we see how those picks do. As for kyle, there is no way to quantify just how much he adds to this team. As a starter, i would just say A LOT. The playcalls and gameplans are going back to the 1980s in quality. He has already proven that at 3 different stops, plus unlike harbaw...this guy is truly a Qb maker.

All i did was expand on your succinct summary , LeP, but i think the real question is DBs. The qb we already know about and the Front 7 we just need to see. #1 WR is like FR QB. Deferred to next yr. But even there we are well positioned .. Kyle's links to Cuzins, CJ as developmental and lots of cash in cap PLUS extra 2nd and 3rd rd picks next yr. Who would ever have thot we could do that much in 4 short months? Not I.

Doc, I think that was one of the best decisions Shanalynch made - the no call on the QB. I liked the fact that they drafted a QB later in a supposedly weak QB class, instead of overpaying for one. I think that's one of the more under appreciated decisions he's made. Now of course, that could backfire if those QB's picked become hall of fame, but that's for the future to decide. I think the picking of three defensive stars was just a great drafting decision. I am a great believer in "defense wins championships" chiche.

As much as I like the fact that we have a good shot at Kirk next year, I think what's more important is that Pita/Reuben/Solomon develop into a feared pass rusher in the mould of Fred Dean, Charles Haley, or Aldon Smith. If we get that star pass rusher, we can have Hoyer or Barkley back there and we will still have a darn good shot at making the playoffs in two years. Now with Kirk *and* a star pass rusher - in two years I'm thinking NFC Championship or better.

This thread is catching the silver lining page like Ricky bobby caught the damn French man.