Originally posted by Giedi:
Disagree on the pattern continuing. Banks and Moore were valuable draft capital expended on a vulnerable OLine. I think (and I Hope) this particular trend continues. I hope that they do devote at least two picks to the OLine this year. Just looking at their injury situation - they are often injured at OLine, RB, CB, and DLine positions. I'd approach the draft with a combination of best player available, and for injury depth at the positions most often injured.
In the case of the OLine, because of Kyle's system of smaller quick agile linemen outside zone blocking - they will get more injured, specially on AstroTurf, vs power gap players, and hence, ShanaLynch should anticipate that and draft not only talent but depth. Same at CB, RB and DLine. They did (I think) a decent job on vetting players for past history in the last draft, but I think they need to be much more proactive and draft also for injury -- considering the injury history of the 49ers. By that, I mean they just need to review their history of injuries, count up the injures per position and draft depth accordingly, again assuming those positions will be hit by injuries again this year.
Injury history, off the top of my head, Bosa was injured, Verett, McGlinchy, Richburg, Dee Ford, Mostert, Jeff Wilson, Kinlaw. I think they should draft depth accordingly so as to offset any specific scheme injuries that are structurally present in Kyle's offensive and defensive play designs.
Missed this awhile back but it makes really good sense. What did we carry last yr…10, or 11 DLs?
And what did we carry on OL…8, or was it occasionally 9 OLs? By rights, we need to be carrying 10 or probably 11 OLs due to ZBS and more agile , slightly smaller guys, who can get hurt a lot more going horizontally than going vertically. We do it for DLs, and we should be doing it for OLs…both trenches are the basis for NFL football. Sure a QB runs it but OL and DL are the nuts and guts of a team.
Okay fast forward to last couple yrs and who got hurt? Well, initially, one could say every position. But OL and DL were always way up there.
Fast behind them were DBs, and some of that was moneyball guys…er… guys we brot along with talent who had injury hx.
WRs usually get injured, some anyway, and we had what…6? Carry one less of those.
RBs we tend to go thru like a hot knife thru butter. And we kept 3 or usually 4.
LBs…i think was 6 and that sounds about right. Maybe could get by with one less.
TEs …3 and again that sounds about right.
STs we have been using starters at other positions doing double duty. The reasoning is understandable, but now, fortunately, we got a couple studs at gunner and PR, maybe KR.
Carrying 10-11 OLs is cumbersome because then you have to carry less somewhere else. One less WR seems one avenue, and maybe getting another from STs is another. But somehow, we not only have to carry more OLs, they need to come from somewhere in 2nd rd , or at least early 3rd.
Or as Laken, in a good trade (for us, not for Detroit). This not drafting OGs until later as we initially did, just isn't good enough. So we need not only more OLs, we need better, and especially at the OG position. We haven't been strong at OG since ….well since JL and Kyle arrived.
We took a good swing at it last yr in Banks and Moore. Unfortunately, we need to do the same thing again this yr, but this time both OGs, w/ one being an OG/C. At OTs , Brun is a better OT than OG. McK proved himself at LT subbing for Trent. Jaylon Moore can play OT as can McG if he is healthy by season start. Banks who has barely played yet at LG and hopefully Jay Moore at RG.
Our weakness is right there…both OGs…and maybe it works and we are fine. But going into season not knowing if either or both OGs will work…is exactly why it looks like a couple OGs, hopefully good ones, (one an OG/C if available) need to be taken this draft. #61 and #93 wouldn't be bad places to try and get them, either. My hope is we could burn some of our later picks and move up a tad in rd 3 or 4 , perhaps rd 5, and get our OGs, plus potential CB and S that has potential starter talent….or is better than what we currently have.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Apr 17, 2022 at 4:54 PM ]
Uhhh, no. He has injury problems because he's Jason Verrett. We roll the dice on oft-injured players. The propaganda here points to something in the muscle milk in our building that's causing this,...but we have a front office that roles the dice when it comes to cheaper, previously-injured players, and thus far it has paid off for us. It's not going to work 100% of the time, but it saves on the cap, and it has worked for us. Cant knock the hustle.
