Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lombardi, Brown and Barrows discussed their theories today on a podcast of why this scheme generates so many injuries to RB's esp. But QB, TE and OL too and combating that with extra bodies on the 53 and PS.

They also noted several could go on I.R. but they only get 8 a year now. So they have to be more calculated.

This is a gross mistake. They should have ADDED to, not subtracted from the IR guys.

I know. Last year was unlimited because of COVID. They reverted back. So now we've got a bunch of dudes hurt for weeks taking up a roster spot instead when they could have just been put on 4-week I.R. and brought in players.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

Someone fax that article to Jed, Kyle, and John a few million times.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lombardi, Brown and Barrows discussed their theories today on a podcast of why this scheme generates so many injuries to RB's esp. But QB, TE and OL too and combating that with extra bodies on the 53 and PS.

They also noted several could go on I.R. but they only get 8 a year now. So they have to be more calculated.

This is a gross mistake. They should have ADDED to, not subtracted from the IR guys.

I know. Last year was unlimited because of COVID. They reverted back. So now we've got a bunch of dudes hurt for weeks taking up a roster spot instead when they could have just been put on 4-week I.R. and brought in players.

I'm with Doc, hate the new rule, only 8 players can come back, I mean we're lucky though, only 2 so far that will be back Ward & Mitchell, not sure Robinson ever gets activated, more like a stash, tender him, let him compete next year.

I wish they'd just up roster limits from 53 to 60, I would eliminate the inactive list, but it won't happen, too many deals have per game roster bonuses in them. So allow 55 players active each week, just dumb that they've yet to up rosters after so many years, too much greed, so what if it costs extra money, it's better to have more healthy players than non healthy players, or only having 8 that can come back, also with 60 we could have kept Hasty, & Castro-Fields, who were both claimed, so mad to lose TCF.

Injury gods need to cut us some damn slack already...

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lombardi, Brown and Barrows discussed their theories today on a podcast of why this scheme generates so many injuries to RB's esp. But QB, TE and OL too and combating that with extra bodies on the 53 and PS.

They also noted several could go on I.R. but they only get 8 a year now. So they have to be more calculated.

This is a gross mistake. They should have ADDED to, not subtracted from the IR guys.

I know. Last year was unlimited because of COVID. They reverted back. So now we've got a bunch of dudes hurt for weeks taking up a roster spot instead when they could have just been put on 4-week I.R. and brought in players.

I'm with Doc, hate the new rule, only 8 players can come back, I mean we're lucky though, only 2 so far that will be back Ward & Mitchell, not sure Robinson ever gets activated, more like a stash, tender him, let him compete next year.

I wish they'd just up roster limits from 53 to 60, I would eliminate the inactive list, but it won't happen, too many deals have per game roster bonuses in them. So allow 55 players active each week, just dumb that they've yet to up rosters after so many years, too much greed, so what if it costs extra money, it's better to have more healthy players than non healthy players, or only having 8 that can come back, also with 60 we could have kept Hasty, & Castro-Fields, who were both claimed, so mad to lose TCF.

Here-here!

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Injury gods need to cut us some damn slack already...

His cousin is Freddy P. Soft. I hate those guys!

That sucks about Armstead.

Out
OL Daniel Brunskill (hamstring), RB Tyrion Davis-Price (ankle), TE Tyler Kroft (knee)

Questionable
DL Arik Armstead (foot), T Colton McKivitz (ankle)

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

For anybody who has complaints about our injuries, HERE is the way to counter that…at least , that is what the Rams have been doing to be at the top of fewest games lost per player per team. This looks to be a really well thot out way to keep your guys in good health and it is based on seeing guys routinely when they are healthy once all joints, bones, cartilage, tendons and muscles are marked and digitized They actually are following their players before injury and do it on a routine (weekly??) basis.

No, I have never heard of this before in football, but know it works for runners, swimmers, and other athletes who use the same formula. It makes sense, but i would like to see it for awhile with S & C guys familiar with the technique, and then see if we can't get off the bottom of the pile as for games lost by players due to injury. Oops, that should be "out of the TOP spot of games lost by players AGL.

Originally posted by NCommand:
That sucks about Armstead.

Out
OL Daniel Brunskill (hamstring), RB Tyrion Davis-Price (ankle), TE Tyler Kroft (knee)

Questionable
DL Arik Armstead (foot), T Colton McKivitz (ankle)

Good thing is Kinlaw, Givens, Omenihu, Hyder, & Ridgeway are playing good so far, so no AA will suck, but won't make or break the game defensive wise IMO.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

For anybody who has complaints about our injuries, HERE is the way to counter that…at least , that is what the Rams have been doing to be at the top of fewest games lost per player per team. This looks to be a really well thot out way to keep your guys in good health and it is based on seeing guys routinely when they are healthy once all joints, bones, cartilage, tendons and muscles are marked and digitized They actually are following their players before injury and do it on a routine (weekly??) basis.

No, I have never heard of this before in football, but know it works for runners, swimmers, and other athletes who use the same formula. It makes sense, but i would like to see it for awhile with S & C guys familiar with the technique, and then see if we can't get off the bottom of the pile as for games lost by players due to injury. Oops, that should be "out of the TOP spot of games lost by players AGL.

I love the open barbershop tactic too. For dudes taught extreme toughness, this is a cool way to get them to relax and be honest about those injuries.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That sucks about Armstead.

Out
OL Daniel Brunskill (hamstring), RB Tyrion Davis-Price (ankle), TE Tyler Kroft (knee)

Questionable
DL Arik Armstead (foot), T Colton McKivitz (ankle)

Good thing is Kinlaw, Givens, Omenihu, Hyder, & Ridgeway are playing good so far, so no AA will suck, but won't make or break the game defensive wise IMO.

Agreed. It's DL so not worried at all. Just hope it's not too long.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

For anybody who has complaints about our injuries, HERE is the way to counter that…at least , that is what the Rams have been doing to be at the top of fewest games lost per player per team. This looks to be a really well thot out way to keep your guys in good health and it is based on seeing guys routinely when they are healthy once all joints, bones, cartilage, tendons and muscles are marked and digitized They actually are following their players before injury and do it on a routine (weekly??) basis.

No, I have never heard of this before in football, but know it works for runners, swimmers, and other athletes who use the same formula. It makes sense, but i would like to see it for awhile with S & C guys familiar with the technique, and then see if we can't get off the bottom of the pile as for games lost by players due to injury. Oops, that should be "out of the TOP spot of games lost by players AGL.

I love the open barbershop tactic too. For dudes taught extreme toughness, this is a cool way to get them to relax and be honest about those injuries.

That's a really good point NC. It is easy to forget that guys who are nicked, don't complain because they don't want to lose their slot on the starting O or D. Great observation, and one i never even thot about. The "barbershop" concept is really clever. And since everyone has to do it there is no stigma for having a pec muscle worked on…or whatever. Basically, it is the antithesis of working on already injured players and putting lots of effort into keeping your healthy guys healthy. It also helps in tracking how an injured guy is doing , computer aided, to know if it is time to let him return to playing field or not.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Now this is why this thread really exists...a platform to track and talk about health theories, strategies, philosophies, league-wide trends, etc.

Great stuff Doc!

Feel free to post the link. I'd love to read it!

Here you go:

www.WSJ.com/ the Rams strength and conditioning program.
For some reason the site didn't highlite. So type in the above or "The Los Angeles Rams have a secret weapon." Either title gets you to the article, and its a pistol

Thanks Doc!

The Los Angeles Rams Have a Secret Weapon: Keeping Players Healthy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-rams-nfl-sports-science-11662524061

For anybody who has complaints about our injuries, HERE is the way to counter that…at least , that is what the Rams have been doing to be at the top of fewest games lost per player per team. This looks to be a really well thot out way to keep your guys in good health and it is based on seeing guys routinely when they are healthy once all joints, bones, cartilage, tendons and muscles are marked and digitized They actually are following their players before injury and do it on a routine (weekly??) basis.

No, I have never heard of this before in football, but know it works for runners, swimmers, and other athletes who use the same formula. It makes sense, but i would like to see it for awhile with S & C guys familiar with the technique, and then see if we can't get off the bottom of the pile as for games lost by players due to injury. Oops, that should be "out of the TOP spot of games lost by players AGL.

I love the open barbershop tactic too. For dudes taught extreme toughness, this is a cool way to get them to relax and be honest about those injuries.

That's a really good point NC. It is easy to forget that guys who are nicked, don't complain because they don't want to lose their slot on the starting O or D. Great observation, and one i never even thot about. The "barbershop" concept is really clever. And since everyone has to do it there is no stigma for having a pec muscle worked on…or whatever. Basically, it is the antithesis of working on already injured players and putting lots of effort into keeping your healthy guys healthy. It also helps in tracking how an injured guy is doing , computer aided, to know if it is time to let him return to playing field or not.

Since first studying and then posting AGL (e.g. this thread), the Rams have been the #1 healthiest team. I always said, whatever they're doing, copy that.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted this on Thurs, but not here. It was from an article in WSJ, Thurs edition about the Rams and their computer assisted following of all their players, which has led them to be the healthiest team in the NFL since arrival of McVay and a new S & C coach. Basically it is the same program we have seen on other athletes, multiple body parts are tagged and then followed via computer . Basically they are treating injuries before they happen , thanks to info the computer prints out. Won't go into it more than that but check out WSJ article from last Thurs.

I would love to see us do something like that because whatever we are doing…isn't working. For all I know our S & C guys have a program like that too…but if so, i've never heard a peep about it. Check it out.

Since you linked me to it in a different thread, I'll commend the Rams but honestly ask you: Are you aware that such efforts are a league-wide effort, years before this WSJ article on the Rams was posted? Feel-good stories are naturally going to be released on the latest SB champion. In the last 30 years, you select the year and I'll bring you back a feel-good article.

It doesn't help the article at all to mention what's going on league-wide or with the worst team in the league, for example.

But...

In 2019, the NFL partnered with Amazon Web Services to transform player health and safety using cloud computing, machine learning and artificial intelligence. The NFL and AWS are developing tools to generate better insights into injuries, specifically the impact of game rules, equipment, and rehabilitation and recovery strategies. One of the partnership's primary goals is building the capacity to predict injuries before they occur.

– The NFL and AWS are building the Digital Athlete, a virtual representation of an NFL player using actual NFL games and data that can run infinite in-game scenarios to understand the impact on player health and safety.
https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/fact-sheets/nfl-health-and-safety-fact-sheet

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1617129736/league/exytxzlvsjsyimpbgs9u.pdf

So again,...and honestly answer doc,...but were you aware that the NFL as a whole is in on things of this nature and are collectively collecting data on such measures like nighthawks?

Were you aware of their partnership with AWS to improve exactly what you're saying the Rams are doing as well?

I sincerely hope you don't think they have crafted and engineered such things on their own. Lol but naturally, in a feel-good article, the WSJ isin't going to mention this stuff. It appears there because it's not for the everyday NFL fan that might cross-check.

If the Bengals had won we would've gotten roughly the same article about the "advanced" things they are doing under the league's umbrella as well.