Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You must be devastated over MM

Can't get too attached over an injury prone player who's leaving anyhow. But hopefully he can stay on the field and help us get that 6th this year!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hopefully not but like Kinlaw, I wouldn't count on it.

Would you? LOL

As to MM, dude looked gimpy as hell in his videos right before the season starts. He's been a got damn miracle. I'm sure you and Hoov predicted as such. LOL

I've seen very little to question that he will return after the bye.

But maybe it will stay bad and you can pad the thread still

I let the medical people who know more than me predict things.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hopefully not but like Kinlaw, I wouldn't count on it.

Would you? LOL

As to MM, dude looked gimpy as hell in his videos right before the season starts. He's been a got damn miracle. I'm sure you and Hoov predicted as such. LOL

I've seen very little to question that he will return after the bye.

But maybe it will stay bad and you can pad the thread still

I let the medical people who know more than me predict things.

Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
For those who constantly bash KS and Lynch and especially in regard to injuries and management of injuries, injuries in a violent sport like football is 110% luck base first and foremost just like the draft and even free agency where a need and upgrade, most of the time overrules risk and cost (drafting questionable or injury risk players or trading picks for proven vets, and most comes with a injury history else they probably wouldn't be on the trade block anyway), alots of other teams and bad GMs/Owners/HCs make bonehead moves and fail in this regard and the examples are countless and common in the NFL but the same rules to upgrade applies regardless.

There is probably truth in that 9er players do get alot more injuries due to the fact KS allow their vets to rest more and play less in the already now shorter preseason, but I think it is a strategy to keep injured players from playing right away until they fully recovered for the long haul as the season progress on when they really need these especially fundamental core players like Bosa for example (he probably could have play in ATL, but resting for bigger games and lesser chance of setbacks down the road was way more important but without Bosa it proves the 9er D wasn't up to par to slow down a mediocre team like ATL on offense and when the 9er offense can only score 14 without a strong running game which KS and Jimmy G relies on to produce on offense therefore CMC was brought in even though he only played 10 games in 2020-2021 but have shown now he is 100% healthy) or even Kinlaw coming back from knee surgery.. with competent QB play, Jimmy G, the 9ers had made it to the NFCC and SB, even with tons of injuries, for a reason, it comes down to injury management, obtaining, having available, upgrading and putting players to play at the right time coming off injury to contribute and help the team push deep into the playoffs and for SB runs, KS and Lynch have succeeded well so far aka strategically play with the hand you are dealt (injuries and setbacks included) and taking the best available options (draft, FA, trades, contracts) to succeed.

Also picking up CMC shows the team and their own players, they will upgrade at any position so if any player isn't up to par, they can be replaced and supplanted with someone better so every player better bring their A game if they're playing or if their number is called, next man up, same deal with drafting Trey to replace Jimmy but brought back Jimmy as the highest paid "backup" with incentives if Trey gets hurt all in the best interest of the team to win and make SB runs, KS and Lynch has done their job and done it right the best they can to be competitive and make deep playoff runs when they have at least a competent or better starting QB playing, which is the most fundamental and needed position in the NFL for wins and success.

That's a really nice post Chillin.

You bring up the caution used for Bosa (which we all agreed with) but what if C.Ward plays this weekend? That kind of goes against that strategy. They had Kinlaw, who out of the gate, got quite a few snaps with a known knee issue. He's now on I.R. AA was allowed to keep playing, like Kinlaw, knowing he had PF and naturally, reaggravates it and now he's probably done for the year as well.

This medical team seems to greatly struggle with even diagnosing an issue and with advice playing on found issue.

But to your point, that's just one aspect to this annual epidemic.

PS: I'm not challenging you here...just curious on your thoughts.

I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hopefully not but like Kinlaw, I wouldn't count on it.

Would you? LOL

As to MM, dude looked gimpy as hell in his videos right before the season starts. He's been a got damn miracle. I'm sure you and Hoov predicted as such. LOL

I've seen very little to question that he will return after the bye.

But maybe it will stay bad and you can pad the thread still

I let the medical people who know more than me predict things.

LOL. Yes, predicting injuries for this team requires a medical degree.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Yeah, it was a groin pull like Bosa. But maybe his wasn't as bad as Nick's. But he hasn't practiced all week. We need him badly so you gotta weigh it this week like they did with Bosa and Atlanta.

For sure...kind of getting excited about JV..DL said he even looked explosive on back to back days. Sounds like next week will be his timetable.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

LMAO. I don't need to do anything with this team but update weekly.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

LMAO. I don't need to do anything with this team but update weekly.

Exactly. It gives you a reason to continually bump a thread that you manage . Kind of a odd reason to root for injuries though tbh

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Yeah, it was a groin pull like Bosa. But maybe his wasn't as bad as Nick's. But he hasn't practiced all week. We need him badly so you gotta weigh it this week like they did with Bosa and Atlanta.

For sure...kind of getting excited about JV..DL said he even looked explosive on back to back days. Sounds like next week will be his timetable.

9er fans need to understand, a football season is not a sprint, it's a marathon.. Why KS and Lynch are probably strategic with injury management and resting Vets in TC and preseason also is part of that strategy.

Remember JH? I think his approach was all or nothing aka what ever it takes to win, they practiced hard and if you can play you play with injuries like the old school days, that's what happened to Patrick Willis, probably didn't rest and heal his foot/toe and his "HOF" type of career ended early due to that, what a shame.. JH inherited alot of those great D players and that championship D but wasted the opportunities on fools gold Kraperchoke and choked the SB and flamed out probably quickly after that. Definitely not a strategy for longevity as evident.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Yeah, it was a groin pull like Bosa. But maybe his wasn't as bad as Nick's. But he hasn't practiced all week. We need him badly so you gotta weigh it this week like they did with Bosa and Atlanta.

For sure...kind of getting excited about JV..DL said he even looked explosive on back to back days. Sounds like next week will be his timetable.

9er fans need to understand, a football season is not a sprint, it's a marathon.. Why KS and Lynch are probably strategic with injury management and resting Vets in TC and preseason also is part of that strategy.

Remember JH? I think his approach was all or nothing aka what ever it takes to win, they practiced hard and if you can play you play with injuries like the old school days, that's what happened to Patrick Willis, probably didn't rest and heal his foot/toe and his "HOF" type of career ended early due to that, what a shame.. JH inherited alot of those great D players and that championship D but wasted the opportunities on fools gold Kraperchoke and choked the SB and flamed out probably quickly after that. Definitely not a strategy for longevity as evident.

Interesting you bring up the Harbaugh regime. That was the last time we were healthy...or the healthiest over the past 10-14 years. Until they all were broken in 2013 and 2014.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

LMAO. I don't need to do anything with this team but update weekly.

Exactly. It gives you a reason to continually bump a thread that you manage . Kind of a odd reason to root for injuries though tbh

The OP wasn't about weekly updates but noting a trend I saw way back for you all to see. And unfortunately it remains annually consistent so it keeps rolling. And that trend would exist no matter this thread so we might as well have a platform for talking about it. If there ever was a justifiable thread to have a negative lean, it's this one.

But you must have missed all the positive stuff I've posted this week. It CAN be a positive too.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

LMAO. I don't need to do anything with this team but update weekly.

Exactly. It gives you a reason to continually bump a thread that you manage . Kind of a odd reason to root for injuries though tbh

The OP wasn't about weekly updates but noting a trend I saw way back for you all to see. And unfortunately it remains annually consistent so it keeps rolling. And that trend would exist no matter this thread so we might as well have a platform for talking about it. If there ever was a justifiable thread to have a negative lean, it's this one.

But you must have missed all the positive stuff I've posted this week. It CAN be a positive too.

Lol I did actually see that and was impressed.
the problem with the trend is that it can't be pinpointed because it spans so many different players, staffs, FOs, coaches etc, it's a bit frustrating

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol never seen someone put so much energy into trying to will injuries

LMAO. I don't need to do anything with this team but update weekly.

Exactly. It gives you a reason to continually bump a thread that you manage . Kind of a odd reason to root for injuries though tbh

The OP wasn't about weekly updates but noting a trend I saw way back for you all to see. And unfortunately it remains annually consistent so it keeps rolling. And that trend would exist no matter this thread so we might as well have a platform for talking about it. If there ever was a justifiable thread to have a negative lean, it's this one.

But you must have missed all the positive stuff I've posted this week. It CAN be a positive too.

Lol I did actually see that and was impressed.
the problem with the trend is that it can't be pinpointed because it spans so many different players, staffs, FOs, coaches etc, it's a bit frustrating

Oh I hear you on that one. Super frustrating.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Yeah, it was a groin pull like Bosa. But maybe his wasn't as bad as Nick's. But he hasn't practiced all week. We need him badly so you gotta weigh it this week like they did with Bosa and Atlanta.

For sure...kind of getting excited about JV..DL said he even looked explosive on back to back days. Sounds like next week will be his timetable.

9er fans need to understand, a football season is not a sprint, it's a marathon.. Why KS and Lynch are probably strategic with injury management and resting Vets in TC and preseason also is part of that strategy.

Remember JH? I think his approach was all or nothing aka what ever it takes to win, they practiced hard and if you can play you play with injuries like the old school days, that's what happened to Patrick Willis, probably didn't rest and heal his foot/toe and his "HOF" type of career ended early due to that, what a shame.. JH inherited alot of those great D players and that championship D but wasted the opportunities on fools gold Kraperchoke and choked the SB and flamed out probably quickly after that. Definitely not a strategy for longevity as evident.

Interesting you bring up the Harbaugh regime. That was the last time we were healthy...or the healthiest over the past 10-14 years. Until they all were broken in 2013 and 2014.

Exactly lol, then Kraperchoke couldn't carry the team and the JH Era was pretty much over, furthermore JH never had any idea what a good WR looks like why the offense sucked and was 1 dimensional. KS was a former WR he knows exactly what to look for in a WR.

KS + Lynch build the team for longevity and have a very sound and solid strategy on all phases of the team concept, drafting, acquiring and keeping key fundamental core players and injury management etc, so the fans calling them out, when the team loses, are pretty clueless imo, like I said, coaches, especially in football, are only as good as the players under their disposal and keeping those core key players healthy, for longevity and when needed to perform their best is the real keys to long winning seasons for SB runs..

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
I don't think Ward has any serious issue, we will see tomorrow how well he preforms vs his pervious team if he plays.
JV probably could have played vs ATL but consider it's not natural turf and they thought ATL was a mediocre team, they held out Bosa and JV.. We'll see if those 2 play tomorrow because we know they need them to win tomorrow, they definitely need Bosa.

Yeah, it was a groin pull like Bosa. But maybe his wasn't as bad as Nick's. But he hasn't practiced all week. We need him badly so you gotta weigh it this week like they did with Bosa and Atlanta.

For sure...kind of getting excited about JV..DL said he even looked explosive on back to back days. Sounds like next week will be his timetable.

9er fans need to understand, a football season is not a sprint, it's a marathon.. Why KS and Lynch are probably strategic with injury management and resting Vets in TC and preseason also is part of that strategy.

Remember JH? I think his approach was all or nothing aka what ever it takes to win, they practiced hard and if you can play you play with injuries like the old school days, that's what happened to Patrick Willis, probably didn't rest and heal his foot/toe and his "HOF" type of career ended early due to that, what a shame.. JH inherited alot of those great D players and that championship D but wasted the opportunities on fools gold Kraperchoke and choked the SB and flamed out probably quickly after that. Definitely not a strategy for longevity as evident.

Interesting you bring up the Harbaugh regime. That was the last time we were healthy...or the healthiest over the past 10-14 years. Until they all were broken in 2013 and 2014.

Exactly lol, then Kraperchoke couldn't carry the team and the JH Era was pretty much over, furthermore JH never had any idea what a good WR looks like why the offense sucked and was 1 dimensional. KS was a former WR he knows exactly what to look for in a WR.

KS + Lynch build the team for longevity and have a very sound and solid strategy on all phases of the team concept, drafting, acquiring and keeping key fundamental core players and injury management etc, so the fans calling them out, when the team loses, are pretty clueless imo, like I said, coaches, especially in football, are only as good as the players under their disposal and keeping those core key players healthy, for longevity and when needed to perform their best is the real keys to long winning seasons for SB runs..

Haha. You're giving me PTSD talking about the end of that regime!

Yeah, they've consistently built a top 5-7 roster annual and definitely #1 in depth and experience.

If they could ever keep all our difference makers on the field heading into the playoffs, they'll have a legit shot at a ship!