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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by thl408:
+20. You can see Foster throw his arms up wondering wth. If Reid and Foster are supposed to read the release of the TE and RB, then match accordingly, then Reid blew it. If there is no switch to take place, then Foster blew it. Only the players know.

Always blame Reid imo.

A good pass rush will solve half of those defensive breakdowns.

True, but 2 guys eyeing up the same guy should not happen.
Originally posted by Giedi:
After the Edge Rusher, my next priority would be that DB.

Lattimore last year woulda been a real nice pick
Just imagine Jimmy G with an elite Defense lol
Originally posted by RD_Town:
Just imagine Jimmy G with an elite Defense lol

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by RD_Town:
Just imagine Jimmy G with an elite Defense lol


.....and an ENTIRE year in the offense with a legit number 1 WR and a fortified OL
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by RD_Town:
Just imagine Jimmy G with an elite Defense lol


.....and an ENTIRE year in the offense with a legit number 1 WR and a fortified OL

AND Colin Kaepernick-like arm strength
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Regarding trail technique. Getting into a trail position is if option A fails. What Saleh really wants is for the CB to be hip to hip with the WR with optimal positioning being the CB's outside shoulder (shoulder closer to sideline) on top of the WR's inside shoulder. At that point look up for the ball because the CB is now controlling the WR, able to body up against him.
If the CB is unable to be hip to hip with the WR, that means he's now trailing the WR. Only then will the CB not look back for the ball, and instead play the eyes/hands of the WR. This is for vertical routes up the sideline.

This article explains the techniques a CB will use, with words from players we know (Eric Davis, Tim McDonald).
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/09/the_art_of_defending_the_deep_ball_how_one_of_footballs_most_stressful_situations_is_getting_even_to.html
When a receiver beat him deep in a one-on-one practice drill, Landry decided to turn around and play the ball. That might feel like a natural reaction, but it is all wrong, because you lose track of the receiver, drift away from him and slow your pursuit, all at once. Landry said defensive backs are always taught to never look back for the ball until they are "in phase" with a receiver – basically running next to him, hip-to-hip.
What if a defensive back gets beat, and trails his receiver? In this situation – "out of phase" – the defensive back must look at the receiver's hands. When he sticks them out to catch the ball, the defensive back has to jab his own hand ahead to disrupt the play.
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Here's Sherman in phase, outside shoulder on top of the WR's inside shoulder. He is in proper position to look back and play the ball.


Revis in phase. In both these plays, the CB goes for the jam by turning then punching with the arm that will eventually be the outside arm (outside = closer to sideline).

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This is DJ 'out of phase'. His right arm (white sleeved) should not reach out like that. That's the wrong arm to use. Compare DJ here to what Sherman and Revis do above. Sherman/Revis don't use that upfield arm to jam at the line.


There is a problem with this 'play the hands' technique that gets CBs into trouble - when the pass is underthrown. When it's underthrown, we always think, "he should have turned around, probably could have gotten an INT". But if CBs are taught to turn around when trailing, they will risk (from the article), "lose track of the receiver, drift away from him and slow your pursuit, all at once."


imo the issue with DJ isn't so much that he can't play with proper technique when he finds himself out of phase, although it is an issue. But the main issue is that he is rarely in phase.
His feet lack movement at the line compared to the others. Get his feet into position quicker and he doesn't have to compensate using his right arm.

The others shift their weight very quickly, not sure DJ did that on his.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Dec 28, 2017 at 12:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
His feet lack movement at the line compared to the others. Get his feet into position quicker and he doesn't have to compensate using his right arm.
Completely agree. IMO, DJ's lateral movement is subpar and that affects him at the line in press. He might have the body type to play press, but he does not have the high end athleticism required to be good at it.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
His feet lack movement at the line compared to the others. Get his feet into position quicker and he doesn't have to compensate using his right arm.
Completely agree. IMO, DJ's lateral movement is subpar and that affects him at the line in press. He might have the body type to play press, but he does not have the high end athleticism required to be good at it.

Have him gain 15 pounds and try him at SS. Otherwise, cut him, he's a liability at CB.
[ Edited by Joecool on Dec 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
His feet lack movement at the line compared to the others. Get his feet into position quicker and he doesn't have to compensate using his right arm.
Completely agree. IMO, DJ's lateral movement is subpar and that affects him at the line in press. He might have the body type to play press, but he does not have the high end athleticism required to be good at it.

thl, thanks for that...excellent breakdown.
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Here's the KW interception. The telecast was correct when they said there was no underneath route to hold KW, allowing him to gain depth.
Dagger vs Tampa2. Dagger (red + yellow + orange) is a vertical stretch targeting the Hook defender, in this case KWilliams.


The orange WR doesn't immediately release into his route. Instead, he first chip blocks Elvis.


Bortles is about to release the pass. The orange WR is lagging in his route because he chip blocked Elvis. Had he not chip blocked, he would probably be near the orange star, flashing in front of KWilliams, creating a vertical stretch.


KWilliams is not threatened by the orange WR and is able to gain depth. Enough depth to make one helluva INT.


Purrtty INT
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Jam with correct arm, in phase, look up.


Nice celly. He should spoon the ball.
Originally posted by thl408:
Jam with correct arm, in phase, look up.

That is textbook.
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