Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

From what I remember on the TD pass play, we had two defenders collide in the pocket and help RW to escape.

If someone could post this still pic, that would be great. How the hell does that little hobbit get out of this forest...again.

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/909879616008896512

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Thank you...at this very moment, you can see Russell Wilson praying to be delivered from his people's slavery in Egypt, moved across the Sea of Lands End, and delivered to the Promised Land.

#PrayerAnswered

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:
Here's the play from post #32, the missed opportunity to Goodwin. It happens fast, so you gotta look at the keyframe posted by jd to see how it was possible to hit Goodwin. The defender being attacked here is Kam as he rotates to his Hook zone.

The gifs really help. Thank you.

Man, what has happened to Hoyer? Dude just lost his mojo the second the season started and s**t got real. Some guys are just psychologically weak or not gamers...but great practice players.

Yes, thanks for the GIF. If he just climbs the pocket a little and let's it go when Goodwin is even with Thomas it's a TD - supposing Goodwin catches the ball, lol.

that play would've worked if they gave hoyer just a few seconds more...and if Goodwin would've caught it.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Jonnydell....hahaha



I guess I shouldn't say I "blasted" him. I was probably too cordial, though I was writing from my phone and didn't want to take the time or energy to really get into it.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Yeah, I noted in this game we ran, and this is just off the top of my head from what I remember:
slant/flat
curl/flat
all curls variant(we ran one streak and 4 curls)
trail
drive
double slant(IIRC that's when we got picked off, they were in cover 1 "lurk") and we ran a "stick" on the other side.

I love how his Y Stick N Nod was kinda the rare variant where the slot guy goes vert and it's the outside receiver that works the middle. I'm sure he just knew about that variant of that play

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Yeah, I noted in this game we ran, and this is just off the top of my head from what I remember:
slant/flat
curl/flat
all curls variant(we ran one streak and 4 curls)
trail
drive
double slant(IIRC that's when we got picked off, they were in cover 1 "lurk") and we ran a "stick" on the other side.

I love how his Y Stick N Nod was kinda the rare variant where the slot guy goes vert and it's the outside receiver that works the middle. I'm sure he just knew about that variant of that play

It's probably because that's the one from Madden lol. Speaking of, I just whooped a guy, he quit with 3 min left in the 3rd qtr after I was 11/11 for 140 yards and 4 TD's and had 4 int's.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

From what I remember on the TD pass play, we had two defenders collide in the pocket and help RW to escape.

If someone could post this still pic, that would be great. How the hell does that little hobbit get out of this forest...again.

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/909879616008896512

...

Thank you...at this very moment, you can see Russell Wilson praying to be delivered from his people's slavery in Egypt, moved across the Sea of Lands End, and delivered to the Promised Land.

#PrayerAnswered

the fvck? I see Armstead colliding with Dumervil who had Willow in sight until Armstead tackled his own player

Originally posted by DRnSFw:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

From what I remember on the TD pass play, we had two defenders collide in the pocket and help RW to escape.

If someone could post this still pic, that would be great. How the hell does that little hobbit get out of this forest...again.

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/909879616008896512

...

Thank you...at this very moment, you can see Russell Wilson praying to be delivered from his people's slavery in Egypt, moved across the Sea of Lands End, and delivered to the Promised Land.

#PrayerAnswered

the fvck? I see Armstead colliding with Dumervil who had Willow in sight until Armstead tackled his own player

Orrrrr, did Dumervil take AA out? Ha...

Or maybe even if Dumervil got close, Wilson spins out and STILL throws for a TD anyhow.

Elvis has been close but hasn't closed.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

It's probably because that's the one from Madden lol. Speaking of, I just whooped a guy, he quit with 3 min left in the 3rd qtr after I was 11/11 for 140 yards and 4 TD's and had 4 int's.

What playbook you using Custom or Shanny's or other? It shouldn't shock anyone that I'm using the "West Coast" playbook. I'm just a sucker for the Near and Far forms and it's the only one on the game that has them. For some dumb reason, you can't put them in a custom book this year.

AA actually put on a nice inside move on that play but still can't get it right.

AA is a 6'8 lumbering ogre. RW can probably run away from AA inside a phonebooth.

Originally posted by thl408:

RW can probably run away from AA inside a phonebooth

Perfect!

Shades of Brooks chasing Wilson for 40 minutes on one play tripping over himself before Wilson heaves a bomb...for a reception.

Edit: For an additional good laugh, watch Buckner...left, no right, no left, no right, left...f**k, now right, now left, no right...YES...got that little f**ker. What? TD?

Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

From what I remember on the TD pass play, we had two defenders collide in the pocket and help RW to escape.

If someone could post this still pic, that would be great. How the hell does that little hobbit get out of this forest...again.

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/909879616008896512

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That is a hell of a block.

Originally posted by thl408:
Good stuff jonnydel. The film wasn't up last night when I checked and I'm busy at work today. Won't get to it until tonight, but I'm very curious about how RR fared in coverage on the TD, the times Hoyer couldn't pull the trigger on some of the dropbacks where I felt he had time, and what type of plays Kyle drew up to try and beat SEA's pass coverage on the failed 3rd downs.

About Hyde, I'm noticing him have more success on run plays between the tackles (inside zone concepts). On paper it seems to fit the OL skillset (Tomlinson, Fusco, Brown) considering they are more on the 'mauler' side than the 'agile' side. Agree with Kilgore being bad. He gets pushed into the backfield on too many run plays.

One question. Why do you think Saleh is playing his CBs as the field CB (RR) and the boundary CB (DJ)? In both the exhibition games where both CBs played (DJ/RR), DJ was the field CB and RR was the boundary. In both regular season games, Saleh flipped it (DJ is boundary).

So far I've watched one play from the list of plays I am interested in, the 49ers first red zone appearance where Hoyer was sacked on 3rd down. I thought Kyle drew up a nice play to get the crossing route open right into the area that the safety rotated down from (to Hook zone), but Hoyer didn't stay with it and missed a potential TD pass.

Hey, THL and Jonny, I've got a couple of questions about the bold part above. So, I have noticed that there has been maybe a bit heavier usage of inside vs outside zone so far. And as you said, more success on the inside zone. I'm just curious what you guys have seen so far with the execution on the outside zone, both with the linemen and the backs. Is the execution poor? Is the usage lower than you would have expected based on what you had seen in Cleveland and Atlanta? While Hyde has a history of success on the inside zone, I'm just curious because we are in a rebuild, and scheme is going to trump talent to some degree. I wonder if guys like Hyde and Brown while being solid players might find themselves hitting free agency or the trade market because they want to run more outside zone than these guys can do.

I'm not personally trying to say that they can't or anything. I just don't know, and you guys seem like a good resource to ask.

Thanks

Originally posted by thl408:
AA is a 6'8 lumbering ogre. RW can probably run away from AA inside a phonebooth.

To me this is lane responsibility or lack of. I was taught and passed on to the kids I coached that if you are on the left and you get through you always attack the left side of the qb that way you should have help coming from the right and corral the qb. Of course if you are rushing from the right it is the opposite. As soon as he broke through he should have worked back to the left. Of course most qbs would have been sacked willow is just too damn slippery.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
From what I remember on the TD pass play, we had two defenders collide in the pocket and help RW to escape.

If someone could post this still pic, that would be great. How the hell does that little hobbit get out of this forest...again.

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/909879616008896512

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That is a hell of a block.

we do need a RG.......