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Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

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Originally posted by thl408:
jd, Saban refers to it as the 'Pole' concept (Deep Out from #1, Go route from #2). It's a Cover3 buster to put the sideline deep 1/3 in conflict.

Thank you!!! It was like an itch in my brain I couldn't scratch. I kept sitting here going...."puhhhh.....puhhhh....I know it starts with a P!!!!!!"
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Would this tag-team Rock-n-Roll Express duo be willing to speak to, video it up, as to what differences in technique in CB play you see between Seattle and us? Differences in scheme and play calling between the two?

🤔🤔 interesting thought.....

Only if ya have the time. We have a nice 5 game sample and it would be interesting to see how Saleh has made it his own defense.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Would this tag-team Rock-n-Roll Express duo be willing to speak to, video it up, as to what differences in technique in CB play you see between Seattle and us? Differences in scheme and play calling between the two?

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
jd, Saban refers to it as the 'Pole' concept (Deep Out from #1, Go route from #2). It's a Cover3 buster to put the sideline deep 1/3 in conflict.

Thank you!!! It was like an itch in my brain I couldn't scratch. I kept sitting here going...."puhhhh.....puhhhh....I know it starts with a P!!!!!!"

Get a room you two!
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Would this tag-team Rock-n-Roll Express duo be willing to speak to, video it up, as to what differences in technique in CB play you see between Seattle and us? Differences in scheme and play calling between the two?


God, you find some gems!!
Maybe more of our defenders should go to Hawaii this offseason and York can pay Sherman, Thomas, and Avril to join Bennett so our guys can learn it correctly.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
jd, Saban refers to it as the 'Pole' concept (Deep Out from #1, Go route from #2). It's a Cover3 buster to put the sideline deep 1/3 in conflict.
Thank you!!! It was like an itch in my brain I couldn't scratch. I kept sitting here going...."puhhhh.....puhhhh....I know it starts with a P!!!!!!"

pole penetrating p***y
Originally posted by Joecool:
Maybe more of our defenders should go to Hawaii this offseason and York can pay Sherman, Thomas, and Avril to join Bennett so our guys can learn it correctly.

no.
Originally posted by defenderDX:

Mike Holmgren

49ers Qb Coach 1986-88
49ers OC 1989-91
Wanted to touch on the 1 min offense we put together to close the 1st half. One thing Shanny seems particular good at are drives nearing the end of halves. It seems like we've scored more points in that window than any other.



Here we start out the drive with a double DIG concept up top and a smash concept down bottom. One is a horizontal stretch, the other a vertical stretch. It gives Hoyer options against multiple defenses. Here, the wide safeties look like a cover 2 zone but by how they play it it's a wide cover 4. A "smash" concept doesn't work against cover 4 so Hoyer has to see that it's not cover 2 zone - which smash works well against. and the double DIG won't.



One thing Shanny does here is he brings Garcon in just a bit and then has his route run to cross the face of the curl defender. This draws his attention to open it up for the 2nd DIG coming behind it. It also gives Garcon leverage against that defender. Also, by doing this it makes the "Mike" backer aware of a lot of space Garcon will have to the outside and the threat of attacks coming to that side of the field, so he'll be more aggressive on the RB route.


From this angle you can see how Garcon started outside the defender and he's shifting his route to make sure he crosses the face of the defender to the inside.



Here you see how he's not gained inside leverage.



Because the "MIKE" was draw over by the RB's route it opens a lane for Garcon on his DIG. Hoyer has thrown the ball here.



One weakness of a cover 4 will be over the middle if you can move that MIKE at all. Here we accomplish that and Garcon gets as open as anyone can in the NFL over the middle.



We get a nice 25 yard gain to start our offense and Garcon has the presence of mind not to celebrate but run the ball to the spot at the hash for the ref to hurry up the offense. Nice vet move at the end.
I've noticed sometimes Hoyer drops bad too far or takes too many little steps. Does that show up in the review? He's not doing it above or in the bomb to goodwin which is why the throws were on time and accurate.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 12, 2017 at 2:33 PM ]
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by defenderDX:

Mike Holmgren

49ers Qb Coach 1986-88
49ers OC 1989-91
The college I went to was split in 2 parts on a hill. In between was a huge chunk of land that our school owned that the Seahawks had leased and had their practice facility located on and their overflow parking was one of our upper parking lots. At least twice a month I'd walk by Holmgren on my way to classes....dude really did look like a giant walrus....LOL.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by defenderDX:

Mike Holmgren

49ers Qb Coach 1986-88
49ers OC 1989-91
The college I went to was split in 2 parts on a hill. In between was a huge chunk of land that our school owned that the Seahawks had leased and had their practice facility located on and their overflow parking was one of our upper parking lots. At least twice a month I'd walk by Holmgren on my way to classes....dude really did look like a giant walrus....LOL.

I love Holmgren. That's why the late 90s were so painful. I'd day his WCO was the closest variant to Walsh's.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I've noticed sometimes Hoyer drops bad too far or takes too many little steps. Does that show up in the review? He's not doing it above or in the bomb to goodwin which is why the throws were on time and accurate.

Good way to kill a rhythm passing game. Well that and all of his damn pats of the ball.
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Touchdowns are so hard to come by so they have to be mentioned. 23-9 with 8 minutes left so they had to have this.
3rd & 6
A dressed up Power play. Taylor with the kickout, Tomlinson will pull and lead through.


Fake pitch to Breida draws one defender and Taylor lets him go right by.


Fake pitch takes a bonus defender. Breida basically "blocks" two guys. TBrown caves the side in and Tomlinson has a huge hole to lead.


1st TD on the road.
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