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Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
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Are we to believe that Fusco is the best option we have at RG on this entire team? Watching him makes my eyes bleed.

This is a real good example of how he needs to work on his footwork! This is just a quick 3 step drop, requires one reach step, a gather step, then plant back foot and hang on the back foot while you read/throw... he falls back as he delivers and the ball sails a little on him and he got away with it... he should be able to sit on the back foot and drive the ball off it as he transfers power from his back foot to forward foot and unwinds his core...
Did you catch how the Defender over Fusco pretty much had a free shot at CJ on that play....asking CJ to set his feet on that play would have gotten him killed IMO
Garcon could have been the primary, but Fusco fkd it up
Originally posted by jonnydel:

I think this too is an excellent example of needing to clean up his footwork.

This was early in the game for him so I'm sure he was nervous but accuracy, timing and strength of the throws all start with footwork.

Did he get better as the game went on? Streaky and inconsistent as per a usual rookie QB?
Here's his first 3rd down of his career - so many firsts!!!! YAY!



It's 3rd and 10 and we're going to run a double china concept. It's a hi/lo read on the outside against zone coverage and usually an "alert" man coverage on the corner/out route.

We motion Kittle across the formation and the LB - #53, follows him - indicating man-coverage. With the single high safety, CJ knows that it's going to be cover 1-man. WAS also shows heavy pressure.



Here's where CJ shows a lot of poise for a youngin'. WAS makes it look like it's a heavy pressure set with all these potential rushers. But, they're going to drop a DT in a lurk/hole drop and play a cover-1 man with a 4 man rush. The 5th rusher ends up being the LB in coverage on the RB. Teams will do this to hurry a QB into a quick throw over the middle.



You see the DT drop into coverage and it's clogged up the middle of the field. CJ never panics he knows where he wants to go with the football. He knows he has a mismatch with Kittle on the LB on an out route. Here, he does a good job of "loading" his legs on his gather step.

He see's Kittle has outside leverage and is doing well with his footwork for the timing as he'll take one hitch and then throw the ball.



You see he's throwing the ball before Kittle is out of his break - nice anticipation. I'd still like to see his front foot out a little more, it'll help keep that ball from coming up a little short.



Kittle had to come back to the ball a little bit, but it was certainly catch-able. The dropsies have been a problem for Kittle this year. Surprising considering he only had 1 in his entire college career.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think this too is an excellent example of needing to clean up his footwork.

This was early in the game for him so I'm sure he was nervous but accuracy, timing and strength of the throws all start with footwork.

Did he get better as the game went on? Streaky and inconsistent as per a usual rookie QB?

streaky/inconsistent IMO.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Also, being a RPO I don't think footwork is the big concern here for what he's asked to do. He simply doesn't have time because the lineman are getting downfield too quickly. It's actually fortunate that Kilgore didn't get flagged for illegal man downfield. If you look at when the ball is thrown, Kilgore is about 4 yards downfield. It's a simple turn to hand it, then turn and throw - I'm sure they practice this play a lot and ask their QB's to be able to throw off balance on this play.


This is an interesting play... it's almost like he flashed PA to move those backers and he was going backside the whole time! Those linemen were showing OZ to move the backers as well
[ Edited by riverrunzthruit on Oct 18, 2017 at 10:55 AM ]
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
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This is a real good example of how he needs to work on his footwork! This is just a quick 3 step drop, requires one reach step, a gather step, then plant back foot and hang on the back foot while you read/throw... he falls back as he delivers and the ball sails a little on him and he got away with it... he should be able to sit on the back foot and drive the ball off it as he transfers power from his back foot to forward foot and unwinds his core...
Did you catch how the Defender over Fusco pretty much had a free shot at CJ on that play....asking CJ to set his feet on that play would have gotten him killed IMO

Also, being a RPO I don't think footwork is the big concern here for what he's asked to do. He simply doesn't have time because the lineman are getting downfield too quickly. It's actually fortunate that Kilgore didn't get flagged for illegal man downfield. If you look at when the ball is thrown, Kilgore is about 4 yards downfield. It's a simple turn to hand it, then turn and throw - I'm sure they practice this play a lot and ask their QB's to be able to throw off balance on this play.

What the hell was Kilgore doing??
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think this too is an excellent example of needing to clean up his footwork.

This was early in the game for him so I'm sure he was nervous but accuracy, timing and strength of the throws all start with footwork.

Did he get better as the game went on? Streaky and inconsistent as per a usual rookie QB?

streaky/inconsistent IMO.

Makes sense. Thanks!
Originally posted by jcs:
What the hell was Kilgore doing??

Falling on his face as usual.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Also, being a RPO I don't think footwork is the big concern here for what he's asked to do. He simply doesn't have time because the lineman are getting downfield too quickly. It's actually fortunate that Kilgore didn't get flagged for illegal man downfield. If you look at when the ball is thrown, Kilgore is about 4 yards downfield. It's a simple turn to hand it, then turn and throw - I'm sure they practice this play a lot and ask their QB's to be able to throw off balance on this play.


This is an interesting play... it's almost like he flashed PA to move those backers and he was going backside the whole time! Those linemen were showing OZ to move the backers as well
Not sure how familiar you are with RPO's, run-pass options. But, what they are, are plays where it's a called running play but the QB has the option to throw it. So, the line and RB's are playing a running play but the QB has the option to pull it down and throw it. They've started coming up a lot in the league the last 7-10 years or so. The Steelers still do a LOT of these as well as the Panthers. Cam used to do it all the time in college and a lot of teams complained because they'd have O-lineman 10 yards down field and throw a bomb after the safeties had come up in run support.
Originally posted by Niners816:


No high level stuff here....I just love the look of undercenter splitbacks. The Back ran a wheel route. The two outer most WR ran whip/return type routes and the slot guy ran an Middle breaking route. The wheel was the throw and got the flag. I'd bring willing to bet we've seen this play out of the guy.

what program did you use to edit?
I jumped out of order a little bit because I really, really, really wanted to touch on this play. It's was his best throw of the day, IMO and shows what he can be.



It was in a 2 minute drill and he'd just completed a nice 19 yard gain to Goodwin. Here, we're going to run 3 concepts. We'll have an "ohio" up top with the streak and flat route. Then, we'll have a dual concept of a "dagger+sucker". I love the "dagger+sucker" combo. It's a great vertical stretch of the defense as well as taking advantage of the horizontal stretching ability. WAS runs a cover 2 zone.



At the snap CJ has to see if the safeties widen out or stay inside. This will show whether it's cover 2, cover 6 or cover 4. The throw will be different depending on those coverage's. Here, with the safeties widening you can clearly see the cover 2 zone with 2 deep safeties and 5 underneath zones.



The key on this play will be the "mike" as if they're in a tampa-2 zone he'll drop with the deepest guy down the middle of the field. If he drops, it'll be a hi/lo read on the 3 receiver side hook defender.

The "Mike" doesn't drop, indicating cover 2 zone and it opens up a hole between the safeties as the safety has to widen out for Garcon on the outside.



While this looks like an easy throw, you have to remember that CJ is going to have to get it over the LB and split the safeties. Takes touch, velocity and accuracy.



He drops an absolute dime. Gets it over the LB and places it perfectly so Kittle isn't led into one of the closing safeties and is able to protect himself and actually get about 8 yards or so after the catch.



his footwork here was MUCH better. He had his front foot out farther, which I like, and it helped him put enough on the ball and kept it from coming up short.



That's just awesome to watch.
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by Niners816:


No high level stuff here....I just love the look of undercenter splitbacks. The Back ran a wheel route. The two outer most WR ran whip/return type routes and the slot guy ran an Middle breaking route. The wheel was the throw and got the flag. I'd bring willing to bet we've seen this play out of the guy.

what program did you use to edit?
yeah, I'd like to know as well. I used to use paint on Mac when I was using a mac which put automatic arrows in there but now I'm using microsoft paint and I have to manually make my little arrows. Which is annoying.

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yes this is such awesome execution! You can see him read the weakside FS to determine which side of the field to work, once he sees him drift back straight he knows right away he is working the vertical stretch to the 3 receiver side... really like how he stares down the safety to the last possible second until the pop up in his drop, sees the void and delivers the ball without hesitation to #1
JD, could you do something on this play in the 3rd quarter?

1-10-WAS 30 (11:17) (No Huddle) 3-C.Beathard sacked at WAS 41 for -11 yards (91-R.Kerrigan).

When I re-watched it, it looked like Garcon had his man beaten badly, and the deep safety committed hard to the other side of the field. If Beathard would've looked that way, could have been an easy TD. We ended up settling for a FG.
[ Edited by a49erfan77 on Oct 18, 2017 at 11:28 AM ]
Originally posted by defenderDX:
what program did you use to edit?

The photo edit portion on my IPhone....they've enabled you to use the mark up functions from iPads now.
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