Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

Originally posted by thl408:
Whose playbook is that? It's a good playcall against a 3 deep shell. Each Curl holds a deep 1/3 defender to allow the Post to work 1v1 with a leverage advantage.
vs Fire Zone blitz
Bourne's Curl attracts the middle safety. ARobinson holds the boundary 1/3.

Mills concept. AKA "Fox 2 X/Y Hook" in the WCO.

Smart Football just did an entire write up on the history, how its coached, and how it works. A great read.

The basics of the play are straightforward:

• the outside receiver runs a post route, breaking towards the near goalpost (hence the name "post") somewhere between 12 and 15 yards;
• the inside receiver runs to a depth of 10 to 12 yards and either breaks inside (known as a "dig" or "square-in") or runs a hook or curl back to the quarterback;
• the backside receiver runs some sort of route to draw away the coverage, such a corner route, some kind of vertical route or a hook;
• and the remaining eligible receivers (running backs, tight-ends or slot receivers) run underneath routes as late options if the defense covers everyone deep.

Originally posted by thl408:

The very next play.
Vertical stretches on both sides. NYG plays some sort of match zone while dropping 8 into coverage.


Goodwin's outside release will turn that CB's back to the play. Breida attracts the flat defender. The defender on Celek will match him on the Crosser. Celek won inside leverage off the line. This pic is just before CJ starts his motion to throw.


Perfect throw to lead Celek.


+47. Most likely Celek's greatest three play sequence ever.

That angle here really shows how Celek leaned inside and got JJ to mirror and then Celek goes outside FTW. At full speed that's harder to defend than some realize.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

I remember thinking what a head scratching throw this was by CJ on the broadcast. Looked terribly short. With the all 22, it was actually there. Juice timing got messed up and couldn't get to where he needs to be along with the throw.

Good stuff guys

Yeah and I kind of felt it should have been a P.I. too because the defender never looked back as the receiver attempted to come back to the ball.

Originally posted by thl408:
Colbert has had some downfield pass break ups in the past two weeks. In this game he was on the spot and made a couple stops in the run game. Here's the play up the sideline that he was able to get over to help out on.
Cover1 Robber. Eli will look to the Spoon vs EEngram on the fade.


Eli briefly holds Colbert in the middle, but is set on throwing the fade. As soon as he hits his back foot on the drop, he let's it fly. Colbert stumbles transitioning out of his backpeddle.


Good speed to make up for the stumble.

Colbert almost tripping was a designed wrinkle in this play. if Niner816 can confirm, I believe the terminology for it was 'Stumble bee tuna'. dating back to the 1986 Bears defense.

Originally posted by WolfTotem:

Originally posted by thl408:

Got to love Goodwin's block too. Taking Thompson out of the play, who outweighs him by 30+ lbs.

Goodwin got the wind knocked out of him too

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Colbert almost tripping was a designed wrinkle in this play. if Niner816 can confirm, I believe the terminology for it was 'Stumble bee tuna'. dating back to the 1986 Bears defense.

Good call.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Colbert almost tripping was a designed wrinkle in this play. if Niner816 can confirm, I believe the terminology for it was 'Stumble bee tuna'. dating back to the 1986 Bears defense.

was it a stumble or just got on his horse ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Colbert almost tripping was a designed wrinkle in this play. if Niner816 can confirm, I believe the terminology for it was 'Stumble bee tuna'. dating back to the 1986 Bears defense.

was it a stumble or just got on his horse ?

It looks like he realized he needed to change his angle, planted his right foot to do that and then had to make a little adjustment with his left foot to fine tune the angle. I can understand why some people could see it as a stumble, but to me it looks like he had pretty good footwork on that play for the most part.

Originally posted by eastcoastfortyniner:

Originally posted by thl408:
Whose playbook is that? It's a good playcall against a 3 deep shell. Each Curl holds a deep 1/3 defender to allow the Post to work 1v1 with a leverage advantage.
vs Fire Zone blitz
Bourne's Curl attracts the middle safety. ARobinson holds the boundary 1/3.

Mills concept. AKA "Fox 2 X/Y Hook" in the WCO.

Smart Football just did an entire write up on the history, how its coached, and how it works. A great read.

The basics of the play are straightforward:

• the outside receiver runs a post route, breaking towards the near goalpost (hence the name "post") somewhere between 12 and 15 yards;
• the inside receiver runs to a depth of 10 to 12 yards and either breaks inside (known as a "dig" or "square-in") or runs a hook or curl back to the quarterback;
• the backside receiver runs some sort of route to draw away the coverage, such a corner route, some kind of vertical route or a hook;
• and the remaining eligible receivers (running backs, tight-ends or slot receivers) run underneath routes as late options if the defense covers everyone deep.

I love Chris Brown. I thought it might be Mills, but the Dig route is replaced with a Deep Curl. The idea is exactly the same though. The #2 holds the safety while the #1 attacks behind with the Post.

Originally posted by thl408:

I love Chris Brown. I thought it might be Mills, but the Dig route is replaced with a Deep Curl. The idea is exactly the same though. The #2 holds the safety while the #1 attacks behind with the Post.

Even on the elder Shanny play it calls it a dig even though they are curls.


It's kinda like how on the old school Z-In play the flankers route could be several different things depending on conversge. I always like this play art because it illustrated the different routes the Z could run

Originally posted by thl408:

I love Chris Brown. I thought it might be Mills, but the Dig route is replaced with a Deep Curl. The idea is exactly the same though. The #2 holds the safety while the #1 attacks behind with the Post.

Also here's a nice little breakdown of the protection calls. So when you hear stuff like "2 Jet" or "Fox 2" here is what they are talking about.


I know in the broadcast they had a sample Kyle play worth the verbiage. I haven't rewatched it to find it. It would be nice if we could see if we could dissect that play.

Originally posted by Niners816:
Also here's a nice little breakdown of the protection calls. So when you hear stuff like "2 Jet" or "Fox 2" here is what they are talking about.
(snip

I know in the broadcast they had a sample Kyle play worth the verbiage. I haven't rewatched it to find it. It would be nice if we could see if we could dissect that play.

Good stuff. Also, Matt Maiocco was on local radio and said something like the Patriots playcall describes the progression from left to right, while Kyle's playbook describes the progression from right to left. His point was that it's the opposite. JG is going to have to unlearn things in order to learn the 49er playbook.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Also here's a nice little breakdown of the protection calls. So when you hear stuff like "2 Jet" or "Fox 2" here is what they are talking about.
(snip

I know in the broadcast they had a sample Kyle play worth the verbiage. I haven't rewatched it to find it. It would be nice if we could see if we could dissect that play.

Good stuff. Also, Matt Maiocco was on local radio and said something like the Patriots playcall describes the progression from left to right, while Kyle's playbook describes the progression from right to left. His point was that it's the opposite. JG is going to have to unlearn things in order to learn the 49er playbook.

JG has a lot to learn. Even as a veteran, his head has got to be spinning. Thank you both...it really helps illustrate the complexity of this system. But it's well worth it in the end.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:
Also here's a nice little breakdown of the protection calls. So when you hear stuff like "2 Jet" or "Fox 2" here is what they are talking about.
(snip

I know in the broadcast they had a sample Kyle play worth the verbiage. I haven't rewatched it to find it. It would be nice if we could see if we could dissect that play.

Good stuff. Also, Matt Maiocco was on local radio and said something like the Patriots playcall describes the progression from left to right, while Kyle's playbook describes the progression from right to left. His point was that it's the opposite. JG is going to have to unlearn things in order to learn the 49er playbook.

JG has a lot to learn. Even as a veteran, his head has got to be spinning. Thank you both...it really helps illustrate the complexity of this system. But it's well worth it in the end.

I think Shanahan is feeling out when the sweet spot will arrive where JG has enough grasp of the playbook that Shanahan has a reasonable range of calls he can make where JG can execute the plays without his head being slowed down too much. And he hopes that sweet spot pops up soon because he would like to get as much of a look at how JG handles his offense as possible before the end of the year. It's probably all about what Shanahan sees of JG in practice - does he see JG hitting that sweet spot in practice yet? It wouldn't surprise me if JG starts against Seattle and it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't start until the third to the last game of the season (if would surprise me if he started starting later than that). I think it mostly depends on what Shanahan sees in practice and where Shanahan feels the sweet spot is. He, himself, may not have a solid idea yet of when it will happen.

Originally posted by 49erphan:

I think Shanahan is feeling out when the sweet spot will arrive where JG has enough grasp of the playbook that Shanahan has a reasonable range of calls he can make where JG can execute the plays without his head being slowed down too much. And he hopes that sweet spot pops up soon because he would like to get as much of a look at how JG handles his offense as possible before the end of the year. It's probably all about what Shanahan sees of JG in practice - does he see JG hitting that sweet spot in practice yet? It wouldn't surprise me if JG starts against Seattle and it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't start until the third to the last game of the season (if would surprise me if he started starting later than that). I think it mostly depends on what Shanahan sees in practice and where Shanahan feels the sweet spot is. He, himself, may not have a solid idea yet of when it will happen.

Agreed...he's not going to have a wide open playbook naturally but like you noted, he's got to have to have enough knowledge to be able to check out of trouble, account for blitzes, build timing and chemistry with his receivers, etc.

You're right...when is that sweet spot?