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Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
I think Shanahan is feeling out when the sweet spot will arrive where JG has enough grasp of the playbook that Shanahan has a reasonable range of calls he can make where JG can execute the plays without his head being slowed down too much. And he hopes that sweet spot pops up soon because he would like to get as much of a look at how JG handles his offense as possible before the end of the year. It's probably all about what Shanahan sees of JG in practice - does he see JG hitting that sweet spot in practice yet? It wouldn't surprise me if JG starts against Seattle and it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't start until the third to the last game of the season (if would surprise me if he started starting later than that). I think it mostly depends on what Shanahan sees in practice and where Shanahan feels the sweet spot is. He, himself, may not have a solid idea yet of when it will happen.

Agreed...he's not going to have a wide open playbook naturally but like you noted, he's got to have to have enough knowledge to be able to check out of trouble, account for blitzes, build timing and chemistry with his receivers, etc.

You're right...when is that sweet spot?

I'll bet Kyle's wife already knows
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Kyle looking for the Jimmy G spot.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I'll bet Kyle's wife already knows

Originally posted by thl408:
Kyle looking for the Jimmy G spot.

Originally posted by 49erphan:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Colbert almost tripping was a designed wrinkle in this play. if Niner816 can confirm, I believe the terminology for it was 'Stumble bee tuna'. dating back to the 1986 Bears defense.
was it a stumble or just got on his horse ?

It looks like he realized he needed to change his angle, planted his right foot to do that and then had to make a little adjustment with his left foot to fine tuna the angle. I can understand why some people could see it as a stumble, but to me it looks like he had pretty good footwork on that play for the most part.

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Instead of dropping a nose tackle into coverage, in this game Saleh was dropping his DE into coverage. He's done this before. I've seen AA drop back, I've seen Lynch drop back into coverage. Never seemed to work right with the down lineman not being a factor in the play, until this game. Here are the two plays I mentioned in the OP.
KWilliams will rush from the slot with Blair dropping back. So it's still a 4 man rush.


Blair reads the screen pass and hones in on the RB.


Blair crushes the RB and the screen play is blown up.

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Same situation with Blair dropping back. This time the 49ers will bring 5 man pressure.
Cover 1 blitz




Eli first looks to his left, then when he looks to his right to locate the drag route, he sees Blair in the passing lane. This forces Eli to hold the ball a bit longer so that the Drag route clears the lane Blair is blocking. This allows Mitchell to push forward, the pass is now more 'over the middle', as opposed to being to Eli's right.


Mitchell bats the pass down.


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Watching this play again, I think Blair has man coverage on the RB. It just so happens the RB slides to Eli's right so that took Blair into the passing lane. It's man coverage, someone had to be assigned to the RB.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I'll bet Kyle's wife already knows

Originally posted by thl408:
Kyle looking for the Jimmy G spot.


Sorry about steering the thread away from the great analysis of plays (But those were funny.)
Originally posted by thl408:
Instead of dropping a nose tackle into coverage, in this game Saleh was dropping his DE into coverage. He's done this before. I've seen AA drop back, I've seen Lynch drop back into coverage. Never seemed to work right with the down lineman not being a factor in the play, until this game. Here are the two plays I mentioned in the OP.
KWilliams will rush from the slot with Blair dropping back. So it's still a 4 man rush.


Blair reads the screen pass and hones in on the RB.


Blair crushes the RB and the screen play is blown up.

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Same situation with Blair dropping back. This time the 49ers will bring 5 man pressure.
Cover 1 blitz




Eli first looks to his left, then when he looks to his right to locate the drag route, he sees Blair in the passing lane. This forces Eli to hold the ball a bit longer so that the Drag route clears the lane Blair is blocking. This allows Mitchell to push forward, the pass is now more 'over the middle', as opposed to being to Eli's right.


Mitchell bats the pass down.


Either Blair is tailor-made for this scheme or he just had fresh legs in his first game back but he was impressive on Sunday.
[ Edited by Sourball on Nov 16, 2017 at 3:49 PM ]
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This was NYG's second longest pass play of the game and it could have gone for a lot more if not for Buckner.

The TE motions across the formation and Reid follows, which hints at man coverage.
Y Cross (left) + Smash (right) vs Cover1 Robber
Notice KWilliams has aligned with outside shade. He wants to funnel the slot WR to the middle of the field (using outside leverage) where he has help from his Cover1 safety.


Eli takes the snap and looks to his left, the zone buster. Colbert immediately runs to that side of the field. KWilliams has lost outside leverage and gives up the outside release.


Eli then looks to his right and sees that the Corner route has won the leverage battle. Because Buckner has gotten through, Eli is unable to step into this throw. He underthrows the pass.


A lot of "almost got there"s this season for Buckner.


Eli is unable to lead the WR and Shepard is forced to adjust and come back for the ball, eliminating any chance of YAC. +24
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Colbert has been laying the wood the past two games. This is the big hit on King.
NYG will run mirrored Inverted Smash. It's a good route combination against Cover2.
49ers are in a combo coverage out of a Cover2 shell. To Eli's right, the 49ers are playing man coverage. To Eli's left (Colbert's side), it's zone. This makes DJ the flat defender and the key defender on this vertical stretch concept.


The red flat route attracts DJ's eyes for the yellow Corner route to work the area behind DJ and in front of Colbert - the "honey hole". Eli is mid windup and Colbert is breaking towards the route.


Understanding where the weakness is in a Cover2 helps Colbert defend the play.


Originally posted by thl408:
Colbert has been laying the wood the past two games. This is the big hit on King.
NYG will run mirrored Inverted Smash. It's a good route combination against Cover2.
49ers are in a combo coverage out of a Cover2 shell. To Eli's right, the 49ers are playing man coverage. To Eli's left (Colbert's side), it's zone. This makes DJ the flat defender and the key defender on this vertical stretch concept.


The red flat route attracts DJ's eyes for the yellow Corner route to work the area behind DJ and in front of Colbert - the "honey hole". Eli is mid windup and Colbert is breaking towards the route.


Understanding where the weakness is in a Cover2 helps Colbert defend the play.



Absolutely loved this play


Immobilized the whole Giants sideline with that hit. They were ready to celebrate that catch lol

Good s**t from Colbert. I think we've found our starting FS. Jump the gun a bit, but yeah
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Nov 18, 2017 at 6:19 AM ]
Hey thl,

this play made me think of you.

so who should be our starting SS?
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Nice play by Butler. I guess that's how it's supposed to be done. But what happens when the WR puts his hands up too early? Then the CB is reacting to the WR's hands before the pass gets there, not looking back, and invites the PI. I feel like DJ and RRob have been victims this season of underthrown passes where the WR slows down for the pass, but since the CB doesn't look back and runs into the WR, they get the DPI.
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