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Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

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Originally posted by defenderDX:
he may not have his feet set, but his front foot is still pointing at the target where he's throwing to. which is important.

Excellent point. CK was very inconsistent with his front foot pointing at the target.

It's an A. Rodgers type throw.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
This was one of my favorite plays all game. Love how Jimmy works this.

7:46 1st QTR.



Here HOU is trying to prevent the pass on 1st down. They actuallky take their best pass rusher out of pass rush and drop him into coverage for an 8 man coverage.

They show a a quarters coverage pre-snap. This look can be a number of defenses. Cover 2 zone hard flat, soft squat, tampa 2, cover 2 zone carry - where the corners will turn into a quarters coverage if they see a vertical release from the outside receivers, cover 4, cover 6 or man coverage. It's up to Jimmy to make the right read.

We're running an Ohio concept up top. The Ohio is a protection release fade on the outside with a short or quick out from the inside defender. We split Celek out wide up top and reveal zone coverage. The Ohio is a 2 safety beater that aims to put the corner in conflict. We saw CJ run this concept a number of times against NY as they like to run a lot of cover 2.

On the backside we're going to motion Hyde out and run a "drive" concept. It's important to note as I often say it backwards, but the drive is a lo-hi read.



The Ohio is one of Shanny's favorite concepts. He did this against the Seahawks where he split a RB wide and put Julio in the slot. This isolates a WR on a LB in zone. We do something similar here with T. Taylor. If the corner bails with the vertical route you have a LB as the cover man against Taylor who has leverage. That's a win all day long. The corner though it playing a soft squat - one way to defeat this coverage as it allows them to drive on an out route but they also can squeeze the vertical window.



The safety reads the vertical and widens out on it, squeezing the window. The corner reads the Ohio and looks to jump the route. This is a trap defense. They're trying to bait Jimmy into the out route throw. We did this very thing to Matt Schaub years ago and Brock ended up with a pick 6.



You see him red-light the Ohio concept and then he moves on to the drive concept. So, he's now on his 3rd and 4th reads. He first looks low to the drag route from Hyde but you have 2 LB's covering. So, he moves to Goodwin open over the middle because of the vertical stretch. That's his 4th guy in the progression.



That's +13 on first down against 8 man coverage. He was poised, didn't panic, didn't get baited into a bad throw. SOOOOOO nice.



Here you see his eyes working the Ohio.



Working the drive



Me likey Jimmy

It's impressive that he hit his 4th read, but I don't understand why he didn't make the hole throw against the safety as soon as the CB squatted. Easy 20 yards, break 1 tackle and it's a TD. I'm not sweating it; he's brought more hope in two games than most of us have had in years. Just wondering if that was one of the couple reads Kyle said he could stand to clean up.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
This was one of my favorite plays all game. Love how Jimmy works this.

7:46 1st QTR.



Here HOU is trying to prevent the pass on 1st down. They actuallky take their best pass rusher out of pass rush and drop him into coverage for an 8 man coverage.

They show a a quarters coverage pre-snap. This look can be a number of defenses. Cover 2 zone hard flat, soft squat, tampa 2, cover 2 zone carry - where the corners will turn into a quarters coverage if they see a vertical release from the outside receivers, cover 4, cover 6 or man coverage. It's up to Jimmy to make the right read.

We're running an Ohio concept up top. The Ohio is a protection release fade on the outside with a short or quick out from the inside defender. We split Celek out wide up top and reveal zone coverage. The Ohio is a 2 safety beater that aims to put the corner in conflict. We saw CJ run this concept a number of times against NY as they like to run a lot of cover 2.

On the backside we're going to motion Hyde out and run a "drive" concept. It's important to note as I often say it backwards, but the drive is a lo-hi read.



The Ohio is one of Shanny's favorite concepts. He did this against the Seahawks where he split a RB wide and put Julio in the slot. This isolates a WR on a LB in zone. We do something similar here with T. Taylor. If the corner bails with the vertical route you have a LB as the cover man against Taylor who has leverage. That's a win all day long. The corner though it playing a soft squat - one way to defeat this coverage as it allows them to drive on an out route but they also can squeeze the vertical window.



The safety reads the vertical and widens out on it, squeezing the window. The corner reads the Ohio and looks to jump the route. This is a trap defense. They're trying to bait Jimmy into the out route throw. We did this very thing to Matt Schaub years ago and Brock ended up with a pick 6.



You see him red-light the Ohio concept and then he moves on to the drive concept. So, he's now on his 3rd and 4th reads. He first looks low to the drag route from Hyde but you have 2 LB's covering. So, he moves to Goodwin open over the middle because of the vertical stretch. That's his 4th guy in the progression.



That's +13 on first down against 8 man coverage. He was poised, didn't panic, didn't get baited into a bad throw. SOOOOOO nice.



Here you see his eyes working the Ohio.



Working the drive



Me likey Jimmy

It's impressive that he hit his 4th read, but I don't understand why he didn't make the hole throw against the safety as soon as the CB squatted. Easy 20 yards, break 1 tackle and it's a TD. I'm not sweating it; he's brought more hope in two games than most of us have had in years. Just wondering if that was one of the couple reads Kyle said he could stand to clean up.

Yeah looks like he has that one down the sideline for a big gain if he throw it within the window.
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
It's impressive that he hit his 4th read, but I don't understand why he didn't make the hole throw against the safety as soon as the CB squatted. Easy 20 yards, break 1 tackle and it's a TD. I'm not sweating it; he's brought more hope in two games than most of us have had in years. Just wondering if that was one of the couple reads Kyle said he could stand to clean up.
If that safety was playing Cover2 then he'd closer to the hash (far from sideline) and the hole throw might be available. But on that play, the safety's assignment is to cover for the squatting CB so that both the routes from the #1 and the #2 are set up to be INT'ed. It's a trap coverage.

The throw to Juice up the sideline was a hole throw against a Cover2 safety. Check out how different the position of the safety is from that play you quoted and the big catch from Juice. I guess I should post that.
[ Edited by thl408 on Dec 13, 2017 at 11:08 AM ]
Jimmy got the message from Admiral Ackbar—'It's a TRAP!!!'
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Here's the best catch of the game and it came from a FB.
Goodwin and Juice run a form of Switch Verticals. I don't think the 49ers dialed this play up to go against Tampa2, but that's what they will get here as HOU was disguising things all game long. Here HOU shows a single high safety look presnap. My guess is JG thought he had Juice being covered by a LB, which would make Juice's vertical route a possible win.


After playaction, JG turns around and sees this. Goodwin's route will hold the Cover2 safety away from the sideline. But Goodwin's route was also supposed to clear the sideline of any CB patrolling the sideline. Versus Tampa2, it won't.


The CB defending the flat will match Juice. In this pic, there is nothing that suggests Juice will win vertically against a CB. JG will make the hole throw against the Cover2 safety. JG got clocked by Clowney on this play. That's what happens trying to block him with a TE.


+29. I don't think this play was designed to go against this coverage. JG places this throw near the sideline, on Juice's outside shoulder, away from the safety. Great job high pointing the throw between two DBs. Not your normal FB.
Originally posted by jgarf08:
Originally posted by jonnydel:



I love how he works slides slightly to his left then delivers a strike in the soft spot of the coverage. Puts us in FG range for a Gould kick.

The progression you just shown gives me what I have coined a football boner (Sorry, is that inappropriate?)

Great work by you highlighting it, impressive QB play

This pocket mobility and throwing ability is what we have been missing. Actually, it's about what 99% of NFL teams are missing. LOL.

DL pushes up the middle to keep the QB from stepping up so the edge blitzer can get there. LOL, Jimmy G slides and still zips a perfect off balance throw.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Jimmy got the message from Admiral Ackbar—'It's a TRAP!!!'
lol for some reason when I read your post I thought of this play from 2013 which was coincidentally against HOU. It's very similar to what HOU wanted to do to JG on the play jonnydel cut up in post #4.

"It's a TRAP!" coverage.


Brock let's #1 go by and jumps the route from #2. The safety on that side of the field rotates over to cover anything vertical from #1.


[ Edited by thl408 on Dec 13, 2017 at 2:10 PM ]
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Nice! Thank you. Thl408, JonnyDell, and so many of the others. I'm learning a ton from you X's and O's guys. Best thread in the WZ as far as I'm concerned.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Jimmy got the message from Admiral Ackbar—'It's a TRAP!!!'
lol for some reason when I read your post I thought of this play from 2013 which was coincidentally against HOU. It's very similar to what HOU wanted to do to JG on the play jonnydel cut up in post #4.

"It's a TRAP!" coverage.


Brock let's #1 go by and jumps the route from #2. The safety on that side of the field rotates over to cover anything vertical from #1.



Glad you found that. I mentioned in the post that we had done that trap defense to Schaub for a pick 6 but I couldn't remember what year it was.
What are you seeing from Hyde? Is he doing anything to warrant a new contract?
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Glad you found that. I mentioned in the post that we had done that trap defense to Schaub for a pick 6 but I couldn't remember what year it was.
No wonder it was kinda fresh in my mind, I read it yesterday in your post. Very good QB'ing by JG on that play.
Originally posted by jreff22:
What are you seeing from Hyde? Is he doing anything to warrant a new contract?
Kyle wants to run outside zone but Tomlinson/Fusco can't execute it well and the team has had more success with inside zone runs. Just so happens inside zone is what Hyde is most familiar with too. I can't say how well he's been picking holes on the OZ runs. I've seen Hyde have success when an outside zone run is blocked well, but what separates a good outside zone RB from an average one is what they can do when blocking is just okay. Can they get 4-5 yards when the OL only blocks good enough for 2.

49ers ran a lot of outside zone with Tomsula and the run blocking was terrible. From what I remember, Hyde did fine making something out of nothing that season, but it was mainly from dancing and juking, not picking a gap and hitting it hard. I think Hyde's elusiveness sometimes gets him in trouble. He can evade DL that penetrate, I've seen it numerous times, but sometimes he thinks he's more elusive than he actually is. As a receiving threat he's okay.

So depends on price and terms imo. He's 26 so I give it 3 more good years. I think his skillset can be used in this offense, but the team shouldn't commit a lot of money/years into a RB with issues staying healthy. Let some other team overpay, even if cap space is aplenty.
3Q about 11mins remaining. There was a okay where JG completed across the middle, but missed a streaking receiver underneath that would have gone for a td. Can you show that?


#19 look like he's wide open. Both LB and CB bit on the play action.

Juice bailed Jimmy out with a great catch doe
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Originally posted by eastcoastfortyniner:
3Q about 11mins remaining. There was a okay where JG completed across the middle, but missed a streaking receiver underneath that would have gone for a td. Can you show that?

This is probably the play you are referring to. Don't see any other catch over the middle around the 11 minute mark.
I think this is 4 Verticals but Murphy ends up making a route conversion. That's why he turns his route into a Dig. 49ers are in 21 personnel with Brieda and Juice in the game, but spread it out to get a presnap read. With a CB lined up over Brieda, it signals zone. With the safeties aligned with shallow depth, it suggests Quarters.
vs Quarters


At the snap, all three LBs in the middle of the field roll over towards Celek and Juice. The WLB sees Brieda dragging across the field and will react to it.


My guess is that because Murphy saw his defender playing with such a cushion, he has the freedom, built into the play, to break his route off. This is common for 4 verticals. No point in trying to beat a defender vertically when the defender has such a large cushion. JG targets Murphy.


+20.


Brieda definitely has room to run had he been targeted.
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