**THE OFFICIAL ''REFEREES SCREWED US '' THREAD 2017/18 EDITION

Originally posted by theduke85:
Late in 2013, we beat the Seahawks 19-17 at home. Gore broke up off a huge 51-yard touchdown to put us ahead late in the game. On the play, there was (imo) a pretty clear holding on Richard Sherman that wasn't called:



I saw lots of Seahawks fans complain about this. Amazingly, when confronted with this evidence, most 49ers fans downplay the alleged infraction and insist that it was a clean play (who would've thought?).

I personally think non-calls are a little different than bad calls. Referees are afforded a certain amount of discretion as to when to flag something, which is one reason why not all illegal actions on the field are penalized. However, when referees do flag something, the action better truly be illegal.

I was at the game, and I've been looking for replays of this since I got home. There haven't been a lot of great angles, but I'm pretty sure that OPI call was beyond heinous. That said, I feel a little better about it now that I've seen the critical Aaron Donald roughing-the-passer call was also pretty darn bad (as I also expected at the time, but it's so much easier to forget about bad calls that go your way). Still looking for a good replay of the Jimmie Ward stick in the 1st half. Looked like a beautiful hit from the stands, clean or not,.

Either way, this was probably one of the weirdest, funnest games played between two irrelevant teams ever.

Did you guys see the "roughing" the passer call on Aaron Donald in the 3rd quarter? You can't hit a QB high, you can't hit a QB low, and I guess you can't hit him in the midsection either.
https://imgur.com/a/W7jES

The 49ers were down 27-13 at that point. Could the refs make it any more obvious that they were trying to will the 49ers back in the game? I mean, it was so blatant that they were trying to manufacture a competitive game... they weren't even trying to hide it.

I guess it was a primetime game though, Goodell had to en$ure that the game $tayed competitive $o that people would hang around to watch more adverti$ement$.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I personally think non-calls are a little different than bad calls. Referees are afforded a certain amount of discretion as to when to flag something, which is one reason why not all illegal actions on the field are penalized. However, when referees do flag something, the action better truly be illegal.

I agree. Also, I am from the "be a little more lenient at the end of games so that a flag doesn't decide a game" school of thought...

However, these calls are made in real-time and they only get one look at it. Errors are going to happen, and that's probably what happened with Taylor. It's not like they look at a replay 30 times and then use "well, is it late in the game? We better not call it" as a tiebreaker.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Did you guys see the "roughing" the passer call on Aaron Donald in the 3rd quarter? You can't hit a QB high, you can't hit a QB low, and I guess you can't hit him in the midsection either.
https://imgur.com/a/W7jES

The 49ers were down 27-13 at that point. Could the refs make it any more obvious that they were trying to will the 49ers back in the game? I mean, it was so blatant that they were trying to manufacture a competitive game... they weren't even trying to hide it.

I guess it was a primetime game though, Goodell had to en$ure that the game $tayed competitive $o that people would hang around to watch more adverti$ement$.

It was a bad call but hard to claim that it affected anything beyond adding yards to Garcon's incredible catch. In real time it looked like he pile drive, but in the replay it looks text book.

The OPI did have a drastic influence on the outcome though.

Originally posted by SoCold:

The call was horrible.

That said the 1st and 2nd down plays before the horrible call sucked and the 3rd and 4th down plays were garbage.

Double whammy. Negate a 1st down conversion and backed us further, I think 18yds total for the 1st. Not a lot of play call option when your opponent knows what's up.

Originally posted by birdie2bogey:

Originally posted by theduke85:
Did you guys see the "roughing" the passer call on Aaron Donald in the 3rd quarter? You can't hit a QB high, you can't hit a QB low, and I guess you can't hit him in the midsection either.
https://imgur.com/a/W7jES

The 49ers were down 27-13 at that point. Could the refs make it any more obvious that they were trying to will the 49ers back in the game? I mean, it was so blatant that they were trying to manufacture a competitive game... they weren't even trying to hide it.

I guess it was a primetime game though, Goodell had to en$ure that the game $tayed competitive $o that people would hang around to watch more adverti$ement$.

It was a bad call but hard to claim that it affected anything beyond adding yards to Garcon's incredible catch. In real time it looked like he pile drive, but in the replay it looks text book.

The OPI did have a drastic influence on the outcome though.

Of course. I'm joking. It was just meant to mock the typical confirmation bias that we see. Ignore the calls that benefit us and magnify the ones that hurt us.

Like, people having been complaining a lot about the Seattle game too. For sure, there were some bad non-calls where our defensive lineman were getting held. However, off the top of my head, there was a play where Jimmy Graham was absolutely mauled in the end zone and there was no pass interference call. That probably directly cost the Seahawks 4 points. How many times over the course of people complaining about officiating has anyone bothered to mention that play? Seriously, could you imagine what would've happened if that happened to Kittle? We'd hear the same hackneyed "OMG, SEATTLE DB'S GET AWAY WITH MURDER" and "WELL, IT IS SEATTLE -- YOU'RE ALSO PLAYING AGAINST THE REFS THERE!" nonsense.

Ignore the stuff that benefits us, double-down on the stuff that fits the narrative. It's just petty.

Originally posted by theduke85:
Did you guys see the "roughing" the passer call on Aaron Donald in the 3rd quarter? You can't hit a QB high, you can't hit a QB low, and I guess you can't hit him in the midsection either.
https://imgur.com/a/W7jES

The 49ers were down 27-13 at that point. Could the refs make it any more obvious that they were trying to will the 49ers back in the game? I mean, it was so blatant that they were trying to manufacture a competitive game... they weren't even trying to hide it.

I guess it was a primetime game though, Goodell had to en$ure that the game $tayed competitive $o that people would hang around to watch more adverti$ement$.

It wasn't about where he hit him, it was the fact that he drove him into the ground after he had gotten rid of the ball. That call didn't change much in the outcome of the game since we got a first down anyway. The horse collar tackle call was also bad as Ray-Ray clearly let go quickly and didn't pull the player down by the collar, but that call also didn't change much since it just moved the ball like a half yard.

f**k THE REFS

f**k the f**king refs

f**k the f**king sons of b***hes refs they suck f**king dick

Originally posted by theduke85:

I agree. Also, I am from the "be a little more lenient at the end of games so that a flag doesn't decide a game" school of thought...

However, these calls are made in real-time and they only get one look at it. Errors are going to happen, and that's probably what happened with Taylor. It's not like they look at a replay 30 times and then use "well, is it late in the game? We better not call it" as a tiebreaker.

That's actually exactly what the refs did the entire Superbowl and why Jim was so pissed because he coached his players within the rules and if the rules were going to be changed for the Superbowl, he needed to be notified of that and wasn't. That was his biggest complaint.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by SoCold:
The call was horrible.

That said the 1st and 2nd down plays before the horrible call sucked and the 3rd and 4th down plays were garbage.

Double whammy. Negate a 1st down conversion and backed us further, I think 18yds total for the 1st. Not a lot of play call option when your opponent knows what's up.

Not the play calls the execution. Hoyer had no business throwing to Hyde for zero yards when you have 2 plays to get a first down or the game is over. Then he takes a sack. Throw the ball up for grabs. Who cares at that point? Games over chuck it son, YOLO!

Belichick is right, make everything reviewable, even penalties.

That doesn't mean unlimited challenges, maybe just keep same rules (booth-initiated in last 2:00 or whatever it is, scoring plays, etc), just maybe give each team one or two more challenges per game.

It seems like the 49ers are now paying for allowing itself to be the birthplace of the Kap movement.

When was the last time you saw a coach win two challenges in a game where the calls were so obviously blown calls?

Then to pretty much end the game on a call that cannot be challenged?

It was like the refs didn't want us to win