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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by TheNef77:
No pressure all night. Where was this "rattling" that was spoken of? Washington shook him up and got him to crumble at the end.
Washington actually knows how to build the trenches
Originally posted by TheNef77:
3 games, no pass rush for 2 of them. Buckner is the only consistent guy up front. Was Seattle fools gold?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ajsjohnson:
Really impressed with McVay--I think he showed a lot more innovation with his play calling than Shanahan showed, unfortunately for us. Our defense is reminding me of the Rams from before--loaded at D Line but never quite showing it. The secondary was really bad. Loved the fight from the team, though--I hate watching a tent fold up, and they kept working in spite of all the mistakes...very encouraging
McVay walked into a far better situation. Mostly what he is showing is what a s**t coach Fisher was.
I like what Shanahan is doing. This team never quit, never backed down and that will pay dividends as the young players develop and more talent is added to fill in the weak spots. They were never going to be a good team this season but I was hoping they'd at least be entertaining and last night was pretty entertaining.
Originally posted by TheNef77:3 games, no pass rush for 2 of them. Buckner is the only consistent guy up front. Was Seattle fools gold?
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by TheNef77:
3 games, no pass rush for 2 of them. Buckner is the only consistent guy up front. Was Seattle fools gold?
Think its pretty obvious at this point.
Originally posted by amosmac28:Excellent thoughts, thanks for sharing.
So many thoughts running through my head this morning, but I have like 12 observations I just have to share.
1. The refs sucked, on both sides. - Dontae Johnson's DPI to negate Elvis Dumervil's sack, Kyle Jucsyck's holding call, Rashard Robinson's DPI call, Garrett Celek's lack of DPI call, to Trent Taylor's OPI call. All absolute garbage. Trent's was icing on the cake for the night. Triplett's crew is garbage and always has been! Even Aaron Donald's penalty was sh*t! 2 weeks in a row we have been treated unfairly. Great teams I guess overcome that - we are not a great team yet.
2. Said at the beginning of the year this team would lose a lot of close games. We've lost 2 close games so far. Very close games. Sadly, hate to bring it back to the refs but they have been a large part of it. Should have been a DPI on Richard Sherman last week on Garcon, 4th qtr. More on refs.
3. A young team makes mistakes. Loses close games. Makes penalties at key moments. Don't always execute to the highest level. I even would go as far as saying they don't get the benefit of the calls sometimes. This team is showing something though. They are showing some fight. Finally, this team is competing and it's so nice to see.
4. Secondaries will get exposed w/o a lack of pass rush. We were able to generate some pressure in Seattle, and some vs. Carolina. The Rams controlled the LOS on the offensive side of the ball all night. Little to no pass rush. Did we even get a sack? Still think this defense needs a true LEO (it's not Armstead) and I also believe Solomon is playing out of position. Really think he's better suited on the inside. Time will tell. Aaron Lynch disappeared again!
5. Linebacker play for us was not good. Bowman really struggled w/ Gurley. Missed at least 4 tackles. Armstrong was Armstrong. Blown assignments, key penalties, he's at best a backup. Can't wait for the return of Foster. But no sense rushing him.
6. Really like our safety play. Between Ward, Tartt and Reid. Glad Tartt's injury was only a concussion. (Easy for me to say) We have some solid to great safeties in this scheme. Some nice backups in Colbert & Jerome. I think our corners can be ok with a pass rush. Like any defense.
7. Can we make it a point in 2018 offseason to find somebody to block Aaron Donald? Seriously. That guy is so good and so disruptive. He owned Fusco, Tomlinson and Kilgore. When all the chips are on the table, and in the 4th qtr... he laid it on the line and ended the game with a sack. I hope Garnett is that guy but I'm not sure about it. I hope I'm wrong. Gotta find a way to block him to have more success.
8. Pierre Garcon is the real deal. He's never been a big redzone target but my god his hands are something of beauty. He plays so hard, wants to win and puts it all out there on the field. Love his fire. Really glad we have him to teach the youngsters. Best WR since Boldin (maybe better).
9. Trent Taylor - love the guy, but he's still young. Learning the nuances of the NFL. On the 2 pt conversion, if he continues his route to the sticks, we have a tie ball game. Instead, he cuts it short and circles back in to the defender. Rookie mistake. I think we have a very solid slot WR in the future though. Really does remind me of a Wes Welker/Amendola/Edelman. Hope he can stay healthy. Great move on the TD catch also.
10. Love Hyde but still worried he can't make it through the whole season. He battled though.
11. Defense really just didn't play disciplined. 1 or more players vacating zone coverages and chasing guys across the field. Throws the whole flow of the defense off. Got to be more disciplined. Got to be able to play the run better. Gurley would get 2 or 3 yards before he was even touched. I thought Bowman looked like an old man in this contest BTW. He's not built to play 2 games in 5 days.
12. A few questionable defensive play calls, and a few questionable offensive play calls. On the flip side, some really nice play calling by Shanahan. Very creative plays. We were in the game. A fascinating game to say the least. I keep telling myself if we lose, that's good for our draft position. I'm tired of that approach though. Our players need to learn how to win now though... and I think we are getting closer and closer. Like what I see for the future. D-line has to play better next week. 10 days of rest should help.
Originally posted by thl408:There were times Goff held the ball for awhile too to let the rush get to him and it didn't. I remember seeing some pressure on him early in the game then it just stopped somewhere around the middle of the 2nd quarter.Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by thl408:DeFo and AA were drafted for their strength and length to play as 2 gappers. Solly is a tweener and either has to lose some weight or gain some weight. Both teams sprinkled in some no huddle to get these already tired players (Thursday game) more tired.Originally posted by jonnydel:NO...PASS...RUSH
How do we have 3 first round picks on the d-line and no rush? I'm confused....
Even with foster and Reid out, we still had 4 1st round picks out there in defense and give up 41.....
Over half of our starting defense are 1st rounders, if we allow more than 29 when we're all healthy.... I dunno, time to call Fangio?
But they were also touted for their ability to rush the passer from the interior. Defo had 6 1/2 last year and AA switched to an edge player and Solly is supposed to be able to rush from anywhere. I mean, I'm not expecting them to get 4 sacks a game, but we can't get one?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:There were times Goff held the ball for awhile too to let the rush get to him and it didn't. I remember seeing some pressure on him early in the game then it just stopped somewhere around the middle of the 2nd quarter.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:DeFo and AA were drafted for their strength and length to play as 2 gappers. Solly is a tweener and either has to lose some weight or gain some weight. Both teams sprinkled in some no huddle to get these already tired players (Thursday game) more tired.
NO...PASS...RUSH
How do we have 3 first round picks on the d-line and no rush? I'm confused....
Even with foster and Reid out, we still had 4 1st round picks out there in defense and give up 41.....
Over half of our starting defense are 1st rounders, if we allow more than 29 when we're all healthy.... I dunno, time to call Fangio?
But they were also touted for their ability to rush the passer from the interior. Defo had 6 1/2 last year and AA switched to an edge player and Solly is supposed to be able to rush from anywhere. I mean, I'm not expecting them to get 4 sacks a game, but we can't get one?
Very disheartening this team still cannot generate a pass rush. Last week was def an aberration against a horrendous OL. Add another item to the ever growing to do list this offseason
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:Goff has looked good all season, and looked good in preseason too.
Not this good obviously, but totally different player compared to last year.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
McVay walked into a far better situation. Mostly what he is showing is what a s**t coach Fisher was.
I like what Shanahan is doing. This team never quit, never backed down and that will pay dividends as the young players develop and more talent is added to fill in the weak spots. They were never going to be a good team this season but I was hoping they'd at least be entertaining and last night was pretty entertaining.
Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by thl408:There were times Goff held the ball for awhile too to let the rush get to him and it didn't. I remember seeing some pressure on him early in the game then it just stopped somewhere around the middle of the 2nd quarter.Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by thl408:DeFo and AA were drafted for their strength and length to play as 2 gappers. Solly is a tweener and either has to lose some weight or gain some weight. Both teams sprinkled in some no huddle to get these already tired players (Thursday game) more tired.Originally posted by jonnydel:NO...PASS...RUSH
How do we have 3 first round picks on the d-line and no rush? I'm confused....
Even with foster and Reid out, we still had 4 1st round picks out there in defense and give up 41.....
Over half of our starting defense are 1st rounders, if we allow more than 29 when we're all healthy.... I dunno, time to call Fangio?
But they were also touted for their ability to rush the passer from the interior. Defo had 6 1/2 last year and AA switched to an edge player and Solly is supposed to be able to rush from anywhere. I mean, I'm not expecting them to get 4 sacks a game, but we can't get one?
Very disheartening this team still cannot generate a pass rush. Last week was def an aberration against a horrendous OL. Add another item to the ever growing to do list this offseason
That was on the list last year...and the year before
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Yeah, doesn't have a potato of a coach now. McVay knows offense and QBs
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Very disheartening this team still cannot generate a pass rush. Last week was def an aberration against a horrendous OL. Add another item to the ever growing to do list this offseason
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Very disheartening this team still cannot generate a pass rush. Last week was def an aberration against a horrendous OL. Add another item to the ever growing to do list this offseason
Not surprised. Our DL is a bunch of guys drafted to play a 3-4. Need that leo, knew it before free agency/the draft. Still is the case. Switching schemes takes a few years more often than not.