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Game 3 2017: vs Los Angeles Rams (Post Game Observations)

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Originally posted by 4thandlong:
LBs disappearing from zone coverage was crucial.

We really need Smith and Goster back, assuming Smith is any good and draft another LB or FA
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I'm gonna say it again. There's an upgrade at guard on the Arizona Practice Squad just sitting there. Dorian Johnson>Fusco
Lots of trolling with negative opinions


sure we will win a game!!
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ajsjohnson:
Really impressed with McVay--I think he showed a lot more innovation with his play calling than Shanahan showed, unfortunately for us. Our defense is reminding me of the Rams from before--loaded at D Line but never quite showing it. The secondary was really bad. Loved the fight from the team, though--I hate watching a tent fold up, and they kept working in spite of all the mistakes...very encouraging


McVay walked into a far better situation. Mostly what he is showing is what a s**t coach Fisher was.

I like what Shanahan is doing. This team never quit, never backed down and that will pay dividends as the young players develop and more talent is added to fill in the weak spots. They were never going to be a good team this season but I was hoping they'd at least be entertaining and last night was pretty entertaining.

100% agree with you. Love the grit man. its a good sign.
I will take another athlete like foster whatever position they play.
Garcon is better than Boldin. Dude has speed, underrated speed.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
McVay walked into a far better situation. Mostly what he is showing is what a s**t coach Fisher was.

I like what Shanahan is doing. This team never quit, never backed down and that will pay dividends as the young players develop and more talent is added to fill in the weak spots. They were never going to be a good team this season but I was hoping they'd at least be entertaining and last night was pretty entertaining.

Good post! To over-evaluate at this point and be disappointed is unwise. Let's enjoy the fact that they actually scored points! Several mistakes cost them the game and this is a young team with a very mediocre QB...

I feel like that guy was just an offense coordinator lol.. dude was not even paying attention to the defense because he has help from wade imo
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by ajsjohnson:
Really impressed with McVay--I think he showed a lot more innovation with his play calling than Shanahan showed, unfortunately for us. Our defense is reminding me of the Rams from before--loaded at D Line but never quite showing it. The secondary was really bad. Loved the fight from the team, though--I hate watching a tent fold up, and they kept working in spite of all the mistakes...very encouraging

Makes it easier when he ignores the game when his defense is on the field.

+1. Our defense is under performing and that's on our rookie DC. To much talent not playing together on that side of the ball.
[ Edited by jcs on Sep 22, 2017 at 8:23 AM ]
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Originally posted by longterm9erfan:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
That is the most frustrating part, Robinson talks a lot of game but he gives up catch after catch!!! Seriously wish they put a veteran on that secondary, maybe he will tell Robinson to STFU and step up!!! Dontae Johnson made a bone headed penalty but through three games Robinson has been getting picked on!!!
According to the 49er color guy on the radio (and Ted Robinson), that was yet another phantom call...

Thanks I feel a whole lot better now about the officials!!
Hyde's slip and fight to recover and gain one yard showed a lot to me with this team. They will fight. I hope they don't get beat down if the losses keep piling up. I am very optimistic that the defense and offense will keep showing improvement as the season goes on.
Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
I wish we had hired McVay. He looks like a real good coach.

Reverse the situations and you would be wishing the 49ers hired Shanahan.


One guy walked into a job with good talent throughout the roster which had been poorly coached and managed.


Another guy essentially walked into a job with expansion level talent and is rebuilding on the fly. It will take time.
Btw when the f**k did Gurley get good again?
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Btw when the f**k did Gurley get good again?

FWIW half his carries went for 2 yards or less.
49ers have twice as many rookies on offense and defense as the Rams. Not surprising the Rams look a bit more mature and ready to produce. On top of that the Rams added some key weapons and drafted their FQB. The niners are hoping to draft or sign a FQB next off season. Wouldn't mind if the lose the rest of their games as that would set them up to make moves next year to solidify the roster.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by amosmac28:
So many thoughts running through my head this morning, but I have like 12 observations I just have to share.

1. The refs sucked, on both sides. - Dontae Johnson's DPI to negate Elvis Dumervil's sack, Kyle Jucsyck's holding call, Rashard Robinson's DPI call, Garrett Celek's lack of DPI call, to Trent Taylor's OPI call. All absolute garbage. Trent's was icing on the cake for the night. Triplett's crew is garbage and always has been! Even Aaron Donald's penalty was sh*t! 2 weeks in a row we have been treated unfairly. Great teams I guess overcome that - we are not a great team yet.

2. Said at the beginning of the year this team would lose a lot of close games. We've lost 2 close games so far. Very close games. Sadly, hate to bring it back to the refs but they have been a large part of it. Should have been a DPI on Richard Sherman last week on Garcon, 4th qtr. More on refs.

3. A young team makes mistakes. Loses close games. Makes penalties at key moments. Don't always execute to the highest level. I even would go as far as saying they don't get the benefit of the calls sometimes. This team is showing something though. They are showing some fight. Finally, this team is competing and it's so nice to see.

4. Secondaries will get exposed w/o a lack of pass rush. We were able to generate some pressure in Seattle, and some vs. Carolina. The Rams controlled the LOS on the offensive side of the ball all night. Little to no pass rush. Did we even get a sack? Still think this defense needs a true LEO (it's not Armstead) and I also believe Solomon is playing out of position. Really think he's better suited on the inside. Time will tell. Aaron Lynch disappeared again!

5. Linebacker play for us was not good. Bowman really struggled w/ Gurley. Missed at least 4 tackles. Armstrong was Armstrong. Blown assignments, key penalties, he's at best a backup. Can't wait for the return of Foster. But no sense rushing him.

6. Really like our safety play. Between Ward, Tartt and Reid. Glad Tartt's injury was only a concussion. (Easy for me to say) We have some solid to great safeties in this scheme. Some nice backups in Colbert & Jerome. I think our corners can be ok with a pass rush. Like any defense.

7. Can we make it a point in 2018 offseason to find somebody to block Aaron Donald? Seriously. That guy is so good and so disruptive. He owned Fusco, Tomlinson and Kilgore. When all the chips are on the table, and in the 4th qtr... he laid it on the line and ended the game with a sack. I hope Garnett is that guy but I'm not sure about it. I hope I'm wrong. Gotta find a way to block him to have more success.

8. Pierre Garcon is the real deal. He's never been a big redzone target but my god his hands are something of beauty. He plays so hard, wants to win and puts it all out there on the field. Love his fire. Really glad we have him to teach the youngsters. Best WR since Boldin (maybe better).

9. Trent Taylor - love the guy, but he's still young. Learning the nuances of the NFL. On the 2 pt conversion, if he continues his route to the sticks, we have a tie ball game. Instead, he cuts it short and circles back in to the defender. Rookie mistake. I think we have a very solid slot WR in the future though. Really does remind me of a Wes Welker/Amendola/Edelman. Hope he can stay healthy. Great move on the TD catch also.

10. Love Hyde but still worried he can't make it through the whole season. He battled though.

11. Defense really just didn't play disciplined. 1 or more players vacating zone coverages and chasing guys across the field. Throws the whole flow of the defense off. Got to be more disciplined. Got to be able to play the run better. Gurley would get 2 or 3 yards before he was even touched. I thought Bowman looked like an old man in this contest BTW. He's not built to play 2 games in 5 days.

12. A few questionable defensive play calls, and a few questionable offensive play calls. On the flip side, some really nice play calling by Shanahan. Very creative plays. We were in the game. A fascinating game to say the least. I keep telling myself if we lose, that's good for our draft position. I'm tired of that approach though. Our players need to learn how to win now though... and I think we are getting closer and closer. Like what I see for the future. D-line has to play better next week. 10 days of rest should help.
Excellent thoughts, thanks for sharing.

Agreed.
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