Game 3 2017: vs Los Angeles Rams (Post Game Observations)

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. Unlike Harbaugh when he took over a veteran group that ultimately burned out, the Rams are still young while many of their picks have several years of experience and are high talents. Turning over the defense to Dick is smart...it should take them a while to get fully acclimated but when they do, they could be one of the better defensive units. On offense, they attacked the OL and WR units in FA (more 1st round talent) and drafted 1st round talent at QB and RB.

In short, do they have any units that don't have at least one premier talent?

With experience within their new systems, they could become a dangerous team and be good for a long time.

We're a few years behind them in that talent acquisition curve.

give us rosen in the offseason and there will be a nice SF/LA rivalry brewing

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:
But yes, Rams have a legit shot at winning the division. They have first round talent everywhere that's been developing for a while and made a ton of smart FA signings and with the offensive scheme and talented QB, Seattle is probably freaking out.

This is NOT the same old sorry ass Rams.

Eh they couldn't beat an average Washington team and barely beat a bad 49ers team. Lets not get carried away.

You can see it coming together. Offense was always the question. That's starting to be answered now.

The additions they Rams made on offense are substantial. Whitworth and Sullivan on the OL were huge. Getting Watkins to go along with Woods and Austin with the draft of Everett was also a big improvement. The biggest improvement, however, was getting McVay instead of Fisher. The pieces are beginning to fit.

Of course having Donald ain't bad either...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Exactly. Unlike Harbaugh when he took over a veteran group that ultimately burned out, the Rams are still young while many of their picks have several years of experience and are high talents. Turning over the defense to Dick is smart...it should take them a while to get fully acclimated but when they do, they could be one of the better defensive units. On offense, they attacked the OL and WR units in FA (more 1st round talent) and drafted 1st round talent at QB and RB.

In short, do they have any units that don't have at least one premier talent?

With experience within their new systems, they could become a dangerous team and be good for a long time.

We're a few years behind them in that talent acquisition curve.

give us rosen in the offseason and there will be a nice SF/LA rivalry brewing

Hopefully but it's still going to take him a couple years to develop within the WCO so we have to keep building up talent around him and win with running, defense and special teams.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not buying into these past 2 losses as big signs of "progress."

• Vs Seattle: Seattle looked TERRIBLE. Their o-line is TERRIBLE. They allowed pressure and dropped key passes; their running backs and wide receivers aren't any good. That's why the 49ers defense looked pretty decent up there. Case in point is allowing 41 points to the freakin' Rams at home the following game.
• Vs L.A.: This game looked to be over as soon as it stated. Sure, the Niners kept hanging around but it never really felt close. The Rams were moving the ball all over this newly crowned improved defense from the get-go. Then, they got complacent and let their foot off the gas--that's when the 49ers mounted the comeback. Sure, a comeback is somewhat admirable but, in my eyes, it was far more a combination of L.A. letting up on them and a few lucky bounces that went SF's way (early fumbled punt, the late fumbled kickoff, the onside recovery). And when it counted, the 49ers STILL couldn't get the 2pt conversion to tie it or the last drive to win it.

The penalties, crucial mistakes, and general ineptitude of the offense are worse than I expected; and I only pegged this team to win 5 games. That seems out of reach. I think I'm most disappointed in Shanahan. He doesn't have this team prepared or inspired to play. They lack leadership and discipline on and off the field. I expected a young team that would make mistakes but be well prepared and fired up. The fire isn't there. I expected an offense, albeit VERY minimal in the talent department, to show some signs of life and some innovation in the playcalling department. Last night, Shanahan's first call was the same short slant that Hoyer has had no success with. He's continually calling the same passes short of the sticks and, I get it, they don't have the protection...but can we get a little more creative in the running game and in the routes he's calling instead of this quick rub slants and comebacks? It looks like the same offense we've seen for years.

I'm not buying the fool's gold. This team has a long way to go before I see true progress. Last night's late-game onslaught when the Rams took their foot off the gas, and a decent defensive showing against a bad Seattle team aren't going to cut it.

0-3 is 0-3 any way you slice it.

39 points is progress. The first play was junk but the offense showed fire after that and played until the refs took the ball away.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. Unlike Harbaugh when he took over a veteran group that ultimately burned out, the Rams are still young while many of their picks have several years of experience and are high talents. Turning over the defense to Dick is smart...it should take them a while to get fully acclimated but when they do, they could be one of the better defensive units. On offense, they attacked the OL and WR units in FA (more 1st round talent) and drafted 1st round talent at QB and RB.

In short, do they have any units that don't have at least one premier talent?

With experience within their new systems, they could become a dangerous team and be good for a long time.

We're a few years behind them in that talent acquisition curve.

give us rosen in the offseason and there will be a nice SF/LA rivalry brewing

If Goff and Gurley are truly a formidable tandem capable of performing like last night, and Watkins finds his game in LA, that's going to make things much harder in the division. LAR have a bunch of good pieces in place and McVay just might be the guy to unlock their potential. I'm scared of how good that offense might become. At least SEA and ARI look to be on the downtick.

Geez, we scored 39 against a Wade Phillips defense. Hyde and Taylor both looked great. Garcon is not likely to be around for Playoffville, but who knows? At the least, his great performance last night shows what vet leadership on the field looks like, and our whole offense seemed to catch the bug, at least for one game.

As far as the D, they were down 3 (count 'em 3) starters for most of the game at positions where we have zero depth. Yes, they sucked, but the Rams laid a 48 burger on the Colts already. Goff, Gurley, Watkins, ..., that bunch looks capable of doing that again and again.

It was Game 3 of the rebuild and guys are acting like their dog died.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Geez, we scored 39 against a Wade Phillips defense. Hyde and Taylor both looked great. Garcon is not likely to be around for Playoffville, but who knows? At the least, his great performance last night shows what vet leadership on the field looks like, and our whole offense seemed to catch the bug, at least for one game.

As far as the D, they were down 3 (count 'em 3) starters for most of the game at positions where we have zero depth. Yes, they sucked, but the Rams laid a 48 burger on the Colts already. Goff, Gurley, Watkins, ..., that bunch looks capable of doing that again and again.

It was Game 3 of the rebuild and guys are acting like their dog died.

Thank you!

I wonder what happens if a phantom OPI doesn't get called. People here probably say we're the best team ever today instead (and they'd be very wrong about that too, lol).

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

My expectation is that the young players that we are looking at right now take the next step and start producing on the field. Forget about the wins. Our rebuild might be set back 4-5 years because of how bad some of these young guys are.

And to be honest, I don't even really care how Hoyer performed even though he had a nice game. Hoyer is not the future at all, so why bother? Everyone in the fanbase knows this. Even if we won this game, I'll admit. I'd be less upset, but share the same concerns. We don't look good on defense at all, and will probably get carved up by Palmer next week if he can just sit back in the pocket and not care about the putrid pass rush.

Well if you were around for the previous rebiuld youll see those young players didnt turn the corner for AWHILE

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

My expectation is that the young players that we are looking at right now take the next step and start producing on the field. Forget about the wins. Our rebuild might be set back 4-5 years because of how bad some of these young guys are.

And to be honest, I don't even really care how Hoyer performed even though he had a nice game. Hoyer is not the future at all, so why bother? Everyone in the fanbase knows this. Even if we won this game, I'll admit. I'd be less upset, but share the same concerns. We don't look good on defense at all, and will probably get carved up by Palmer next week if he can just sit back in the pocket and not care about the putrid pass rush.

Okay drama queen. Most of the young players are rookies or second year players still figuring out their way in the league, learning to play with each other.


You can stay patient and accept that there will be a lot of growing pains or completely freak out and believe that every player is a lost cause after a handful of games.

On the final 49er drive after the onside recovery, there was a screen to Hyde dialed up. The telecast mentioned how Barron saved a huge gain had Hyde gotten past him. The 49ers caught the Rams in a blitz, exactly when you want to call a screen pass. Trent Brown blocks his man into Fusco, preventing Fusco from getting out to the edge to lead block for Hyde. And that's what allowed Barron to make the tackle for no gain.



The two collide. I don't know what Brown is taught to do, but he should know that Fusco is trying to get to the edge.

Originally posted by thl408:

If Goff and Gurley are truly a formidable tandem capable of performing like last night, and Watkins finds his game in LA, that's going to make things much harder in the division. LAR have a bunch of good pieces in place and McVay just might be the guy to unlock their potential. I'm scared of how good that offense might become. At least SEA and ARI look to be on the downtick.

Arizona has the oldest roster in football and after this season they could see Palmer, Fitzgerald and Arians all walk. Dark clouds are looming for them indeed.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
My expectation is that the young players that we are looking at right now take the next step and start producing on the field. Forget about the wins. Our rebuild might be set back 4-5 years because of how bad some of these young guys are.

And to be honest, I don't even really care how Hoyer performed even though he had a nice game. Hoyer is not the future at all, so why bother? Everyone in the fanbase knows this. Even if we won this game, I'll admit. I'd be less upset, but share the same concerns. We don't look good on defense at all, and will probably get carved up by Palmer next week if he can just sit back in the pocket and not care about the putrid pass rush.

Okay drama queen. Most of the young players are rookies or second year players still figuring out their way in the league, learning to play with each other.

You can stay patient and accept that there will be a lot of growing pains or completely freak out and believe that every player is a lost cause after a handful of games.

Missed you, Phoenix.

So, here's the measuring stick...for those coaches, scheme and individual players expected to be here during a playoff run in two years+, how did the individual parts look, going down the list?

Imagine brown should let fusco stunt himself out of the play.

Originally posted by NCommand:

So, here's the measuring stick...for those coaches, scheme and individual players expected to be here during a playoff run in two years+, how did the individual parts look, going down the list?

Corners did not look good. Especially out considered #1