Will we compete for a Superbowl next year?

We will win.

Here's the good news and bad news:

good:

The NFC is WIDE OPEN. NO ONE thought that this year's NFC championship game would be between the Eagles and Vikings, NO ONE. If the 49ers played in the AFC, then they would have to go through Pittsburgh and New England, which in itself, is an insurmountable task. But since they play in the wide open NFC, it's wide open.

They have the boy genius as their hc and they will have some continuity. Continuity is key in today's NFL

They have $120 worth of cap room to work with.

They have some decent draft capital in this coming draft. They can go a number of ways during the draft. Their strategy is wide open. And if Adam Peters has his way with the draft board, then that's only going to benefit the 49ers more.

They had a s**t load of injuries--majority of them from the defensive side of the ball. They're going to get those players healthy and ready to roll in 2018.

Bad:

They play in the what is ARGUABLY the toughest division in the NFC. Getting to the playoffs will not be easy.

They don't have any playoff experience. Even if they do manage to get a first round bye, those playoff experiences are very valuable.

The 49ers, as of right now, has a s**t ton of needs to address. Can they address them in one offseason? Probably not.

Weak links lose big games for you. Right now, we have too many of them.

Originally posted by socalniner:
Weak links lose big games for you. Right now, we have too many of them.

get outta here with that negativity!

SUPWERBOLWS!!!!! BOWLS1@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by socalniner:

Weak links lose big games for you. Right now, we have too many of them.

get outta here with that negativity!

SUPWERBOLWS!!!!! BOWLS1@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
I think there's a misconception that it takes years and years to rebuild. That's simply not true in the NFL. Both Jacksonville and Carolina were expansion teams in 1995, they both made the conference championship for the 1996 season.

If you have a great QB and a competent coach you can compete (although, not all teams making deep runs in the playoff do). While I do think it can sometimes take two years if you have a good QB, if you don't go to the playoffs after that first or second season with that QB, then you're doing something wrong. The reality is, when you're starting out like this team did at the beginning of the 2017 season you'll have both draft picks and cap space. But once you enter into the third year after that, the cap space starts getting eaten up. A team going into that third year should have already shown some success.

There's too many examples of this happening -- Luck with the Colts, Ryan with the Falcons, Roethlisberger with the Steelers, Wentz and the Eagles (I know he's hurt, but with him they'd be prohibitive favorites in the NFC), even Flacco with the Ravens (combined with competent coaching). With the exception of Flacco, all of these QBs looked good enough immediately that the teams knew they could compete in the playoffs with them, certainly within the first half of their rookie seasons.

Then you've got Jameis Winston and the Bucs, Ryan Tannehill and the Dolphins, etc. Either the team has screwed up the rebuild and/or the QBs aren't really all that good.

Jimmy G has seven starts under his belt. He has looked excellent in every game. The third down %, points per drive, yards per attempt and yardage are all stellar. Ints, which over the course of seven games can skew passer rating tremendously, are sometimes due to tipped passes and receiver drops -- but they can also indicate a QB willing to take risks for good and bad -- in Jimmy's case, good. You can either have check down artist and never truly be able to compete, or you can have a guy that you know can make huge plays but with a few more ints. I'll just note that Derek Carr's combined yards per attempt the past couple years was 6.9. Jimmy G's was 8.76. Of course, Derek Carr also threw for 22 TDs and 13 ints this year.

I'd say that it is true. In the very example you gave, Carolina was not able to sustain that success. Carolina and Jacksonville also started off uncapped so they had an advantage other teams did not. If you want to be built for the long haul, yes it does take years. The great tends tend to have a franchise QB, players at other positions, and depth. If you plan on making a run of any kind, you need depth. Injuries happen. The team cannot be derailed because of injuries unless the plan is to be lucky with injuries every year.

I will say that thankfully, it won't take 5 or 6 years to do this rebuild, but I still wouldn't call the 49ers a Super Bowl contending team. Now they could get on a run, but we still have some glaring weaknesses. Until at least some of them are addressed through FA signings, trades, drafting, as well as releasing some people (addition by subtraction), I see us as a team that has an outside chance to compete for a playoff spot. No one will take us lightly next year.

Now to your point about QBs, we do have a guy where, yes I think once we add some more players, we will be in the mix year in and out, but we aren't there yet. If we take care of the O-line and somehow get a pass rush, then all bets are off, and we've got a legit shot.

I think it is going to take at least 10 wins for the 9ers to get into the playoffs this year. My hunch is that the 9ers win 9 or 10 games this year - which means, by my logic, that the 9ers are on the cusp of making it to the playoffs. They may not quite make it, but if they do, then having a great coach and a great QB in Shanahan and JG and a solid defense, means that they will have a decent shot at getting another Superbowl trophy. That's my best guess right now.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Here's the good news and bad news:

good:

The NFC is WIDE OPEN. NO ONE thought that this year's NFC championship game would be between the Eagles and Vikings, NO ONE. If the 49ers played in the AFC, then they would have to go through Pittsburgh and New England, which in itself, is an insurmountable task. But since they play in the wide open NFC, it's wide open.

They have the boy genius as their hc and they will have some continuity. Continuity is key in today's NFL

They have $120 worth of cap room to work with.

They have some decent draft capital in this coming draft. They can go a number of ways during the draft. Their strategy is wide open. And if Adam Peters has his way with the draft board, then that's only going to benefit the 49ers more.

They had a s**t load of injuries--majority of them from the defensive side of the ball. They're going to get those players healthy and ready to roll in 2018.

Bad:

They play in the what is ARGUABLY the toughest division in the NFC. Getting to the playoffs will not be easy.

They don't have any playoff experience. Even if they do manage to get a first round bye, those playoff experiences are very valuable.

The 49ers, as of right now, has a s**t ton of needs to address. Can they address them in one offseason? Probably not.

This is a fair assessment. I'd just like a winning record, compete for a division title, and a playoff win in 2018. All of those things are goals that don't seem too far out of reach if we have a good offseason.

I think next years playoffs will have packers, dallas, us, rams, eagles, saints. Niners can beatdown any of these teams or any other nfc team that wanna step to us. We'll see how it goes though, im pretty dam confident with jimmy G leading us.

Ask me after FA and the draft. We need a veteran corner opposite Spoon, a guard and a center and a pass rusher. I'm comfortable with the current roster making us a one and done in the playoffs kind of team, but once we get the pieces just mentioned, we'll beat any team.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
OH HELLLL YEAHHHH

such a

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
OH HELLLL YEAHHHH

a perfect reaction... but what the 49ers do this off season will determine this

Offensively we're great but Seattle, St Louis and Arz all have better D's by a wide margin too. I'd focus on getting past the division 1st. Arz is one Alex trade away from being a threat, St Louis is great, Seattle is on the decline but still a threat.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Seattle, St Louis and Arz all have better D's by a wide margin too. I'd focus on getting past the division 1st.

Pshhhhhht, 6 easy wins right there

Originally posted by 4912:

Pshhhhhht, 6 easy wins right there

1-5 last year with the 1 being handed to us. No Jimmy though so who knows.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by 4912:

Pshhhhhht, 6 easy wins right there

1-5 last year with the 1 being handed to us. No Jimmy though so who knows.

Man, those were mercy wins from Lynch/Shanny to improve draft position and Iul them into a false sense of security heading into next season.