Coaches Film Analysis: 2018 Season

Originally posted by thl408:

Who is chasing down Cousins? It can't be AA due to his lack of effort!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

I think he's over thinking stuff. I watched him extensively at UNC and one of the things I liked is how decisive he was, how well he read the field. From watching him in the NFL, he seems to be rushing himself unnecessarily.

I don't want to derail, but I don't ever recall seeing an alley set up like that.

Originally posted by Niners816:

*not related to the niners, but too good not to put here for us X's and O's guys*(I saw this on twitter and then again poster genus49 posted a gif) X's and O's litmus test....can you find the open player



I guess this was third down and they lost 5 yards on it.

fake news?

This is the biggest gain for MIN on the day. Theilen was the go to guy for Cousins all game long and here he converts a 3rd down to continue the drive that ended in KRudolph's TD.
Quarters vs three level flood
Rarely see Quarters coverage from Saleh so this is a changeup.


This is a key moment in the play for Colbert. If the #2WR (Thielen 19) goes vertical, then Colbert will match him. If Thielen does not go vertical, then Colbert is to double team the #1WR (red arrow).


As Thielen (19) bends his bench route, Colbert makes the determination that Thielen is not going vertical, moves off Thielen, and double teams the #1. KWilliams is distracted by the drag route from Diggs so he does not gain depth. This allows Thielen to be unaccounted for. Thielen is kind of in no man's land so I can see why Colbert let him go. If Colbert doesn't double the Go route up the sideline, then Spoon is on his own with no inside help in case that WR runs a Post.


+34

Originally posted by communist:

fake news?

It's real....I took the gif out of this thread so I wouldn't slow down the Niner related gifs. Check out the Garoppolo thread. There's a gif of the play there.

Originally posted by thl408:
I read a couple posts about DeFo in coverage and how it shouldn't happen. I believe it was centered around this play.
Buckner at 3t in an Over front.


DeFo sees the QB rollout and starts to track the play.


He goes for the pass breakup instead of the tackle. So selfish trying to stuff the stat sheet for contract negotiations. jk


So Buckner wasn't really in coverage, he just happened to read the play, find the closest receiving threat, and went for the pass breakup.

Buckner was smart to get in coverage there, but all he had to do was give that TE a nice shove initially back towards Cousins... Then there would have been no where for Cousins to go.

This is the Garcon near TD that hit him in the hands.
Sail vs Cover3
Sail works against Cover3, but this close to the end zone, there is no way to remove the sideline deep 1/3 defender. There simply is no room to run the deep 1/3 off. If this was at the 50 yard line, then Breida's route removes the sideline deep 1/3, then Garcon attacks the area vacated.


With the CB on Breida bailing and watching the play, a throw to Garcon would be seen and reacted to.


Because they are so close to the end zone, all Breida's route does is take the CB to the area Garcon wants to attack.


The telecast showed Kyle talking to Jimmy after this drive ended in a field goal and suggested that Kyle wanted Jimmy to throw it sooner. Had Garcon ran a route with less bend, then maybe the CB can't factor into the play. But because Garcon flattens his route, all it does is take him towards the CB. I don't know if throwing it sooner would have helped.

I initially thought Garcon ran it wrong. Not sure what went on there. I think they need to talk that over between Garcon and Jimmy. I don't think Kyle would drawn it up like that.

Originally posted by thl408:
This is the biggest gain for MIN on the day. Theilen was the go to guy for Cousins all game long and here he converts a 3rd down to continue the drive that ended in KRudolph's TD.
Quarters vs three level flood
Rarely see Quarters coverage from Saleh so this is a changeup.


This is a key moment in the play for Colbert. If the #2WR (Thielen 19) goes vertical, then Colbert will match him. If Thielen does not go vertical, then Colbert is to double team the #1WR (red arrow).


As Thielen (19) bends his bench route, Colbert makes the determination that Thielen is not going vertical, moves off Thielen, and double teams the #1. KWilliams is distracted by the drag route from Diggs so he does not gain depth. This allows Thielen to be unaccounted for. Thielen is kind of in no man's land so I can see why Colbert let him go. If Colbert doesn't double the Go route up the sideline, then Spoon is on his own with no inside help in case that WR runs a Post.


+34

When I watched this I felt like Williams got caught watching the crosser expecting him to continue his route and was getting ready to jump on the crosser. Instead, the receiver cut it off over the middle. That's a play where the opposing team out-schemed us on this one. It happens to all defenses. Those OC's are getting paid too.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by Niners816:

*not related to the niners, but too good not to put here for us X's and O's guys*(I saw this on twitter and then again poster genus49 posted a gif) X's and O's litmus test....can you find the open player



I guess this was third down and they lost 5 yards on it.

fake news?

Phoenix's draft crush. We tried to tell him Watson was the better QB but wouldn't listen

Originally posted by thl408:
This is the Garcon near TD that hit him in the hands.
Sail vs Cover3
Sail works against Cover3, but this close to the end zone, there is no way to remove the sideline deep 1/3 defender. There simply is no room to run the deep 1/3 off. If this was at the 50 yard line, then Breida's route removes the sideline deep 1/3, then Garcon attacks the area vacated.


With the CB on Breida bailing and watching the play, a throw to Garcon would be seen and reacted to.


Because they are so close to the end zone, all Breida's route does is take the CB to the area Garcon wants to attack.


The telecast showed Kyle talking to Jimmy after this drive ended in a field goal and suggested that Kyle wanted Jimmy to throw it sooner. Had Garcon ran a route with less bend, then maybe the CB can't factor into the play. But because Garcon flattens his route, all it does is take him towards the CB. I don't know if throwing it sooner would have helped.

This was a tough one too. I looked at it a bunch of times and I could see how if he threw it sooner to a spot, like he doesn't throw the ball until Garcon gets in the endzone but if he throws it just before he gets to the endzone I think that pass ends up just inside the "V" on the logo and is in that spot between all those defenders.

That, or Jimmy was supposed to make an adjustment on a route to have Breida run a mid out or something. Really hard to tell without knowing the details of the play.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

This is the Garcon near TD that hit him in the hands.
Sail vs Cover3
Sail works against Cover3, but this close to the end zone, there is no way to remove the sideline deep 1/3 defender. There simply is no room to run the deep 1/3 off. If this was at the 50 yard line, then Breida's route removes the sideline deep 1/3, then Garcon attacks the area vacated.


With the CB on Breida bailing and watching the play, a throw to Garcon would be seen and reacted to.


Because they are so close to the end zone, all Breida's route does is take the CB to the area Garcon wants to attack.


The telecast showed Kyle talking to Jimmy after this drive ended in a field goal and suggested that Kyle wanted Jimmy to throw it sooner. Had Garcon ran a route with less bend, then maybe the CB can't factor into the play. But because Garcon flattens his route, all it does is take him towards the CB. I don't know if throwing it sooner would have helped.

This was a tough one too. I looked at it a bunch of times and I could see how if he threw it sooner to a spot, like he doesn't throw the ball until Garcon gets in the endzone but if he throws it just before he gets to the endzone I think that pass ends up just inside the "V" on the logo and is in that spot between all those defenders.

That, or Jimmy was supposed to make an adjustment on a route to have Breida run a mid out or something. Really hard to tell without knowing the details of the play.

I would have liked something like this in this position and against this defense. This was that play from the playoff game vs Seattle in 16. In this case you had the HB running the corner and the WR running a skinny. The TE ran a flat.


Think of McKinnon being the Back running that corner .....oh what could have been.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Wanted to spotlight what Sherm does for this defense. This was a 3rd and 12 and we ran another call of "Mable" when Minn came out in an unbalanced set. Sherm was the "man" guy on his side. We couldn't run this at all with D. Johnson last year as if we did, the opposing offense just put Johnson in man-coverage the whole game and picked on him or he got flagged. Again, I hated Sherm but man this is nice to have. This allows the defense on the other side to play a smothering zone and ends up in a Blair/Buckner sack that's a coverage sack. How many times did we get a coverage sack last year? *crickets*

I said it last year, one thing that hurt our rush was Johnson. In a pinch, teams would throw at him or scheme at him. Can't do that this year.

He is such a technician...so glad you highlighted him and his value to this defense.

Originally posted by Niners816:
I don't want to derail, but I don't ever recall seeing an alley set up like that.

He saw the receiver and waited too long to get set. By the time he did, the defensive back was closing in. In the NFL you've just got to let that rip.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by thl408:
I didn't see much dropoff from Person to Garnett although I did not focus on any of the OL in particular. When Garnett went down and it was plan C at RG and plan B at RT, the right side of the OL took turns giving up QB pressure. This game was very much like last season's PHI game when the OL was wrecked with injury against a top DL. The only difference was Jimmy can avoid some hits by getting rid of the ball whereas Beathard took every single hit possible as if he was collecting them.
If Person/Garnett can't go, I would rather pick up a street FA to play RG than put McG at RG and Gilliam at RT.

Agreed. Looks like that might be Tobin. Well he'll have a week to practice against Detroit. It'll be a good rebound test for this team.

Or worse: Najee Toran