Coaches Film Analysis: 2018 Season

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:
This is the biggest gain for MIN on the day. Theilen was the go to guy for Cousins all game long and here he converts a 3rd down to continue the drive that ended in KRudolph's TD.
Quarters vs three level flood
Rarely see Quarters coverage from Saleh so this is a changeup.


This is a key moment in the play for Colbert. If the #2WR (Thielen 19) goes vertical, then Colbert will match him. If Thielen does not go vertical, then Colbert is to double team the #1WR (red arrow).


As Thielen (19) bends his bench route, Colbert makes the determination that Thielen is not going vertical, moves off Thielen, and double teams the #1. KWilliams is distracted by the drag route from Diggs so he does not gain depth. This allows Thielen to be unaccounted for. Thielen is kind of in no man's land so I can see why Colbert let him go. If Colbert doesn't double the Go route up the sideline, then Spoon is on his own with no inside help in case that WR runs a Post.


+34

When I watched this I felt like Williams got caught watching the crosser expecting him to continue his route and was getting ready to jump on the crosser. Instead, the receiver cut it off over the middle. That's a play where the opposing team out-schemed us on this one. It happens to all defenses. Those OC's are getting paid too.

Yeah, Cousins had two wide open there with Williams caught in no-man's land. I remember the commentator getting on him for what he was even looking at but it was that wide open crosser in the middle of the field. Pick your poison. I'm not even sure how this should have been defended.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Jimmy was late on a few throws in this game. This goes to show, against this defense, the holes are small and you have to throw the ball exactly on time.

I won't show the whole play and art but this is the first 3rd down of the second half and the play immediately after Garnett went down. We run a drive concept to the right side with Garcon and Taylor. Jimmy executes most of this play really well. He does the things you want a QB to do. He looks off the LBer away from the play to keep the hole open and throws the exact right spot, but he's just a hair second too late.

This play was a good example of how shallow their deep safety was playing. This view to show the safety depth. You mentioned the smaller holes against this defense, they compress the area behind the LB, in front of the safety. When Goodwin went out, MIN did this with confidence.
Safety flat footed, squatting on intermediate routes.

So Kyle has to make the safety pay for playing shallow. Attack outside the numbers. 4Q 3rd & 3
This is the Pettis catch and run. This is a man coverage buster. Each route clears the area for the other to attack. Keep that route combo in mind because it relates to the pick 6.


From snap to throw, the safety plays flat footed and doesn't gain depth, choosing to squat the middle of the field.


Burn.


+39

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

This is the biggest gain for MIN on the day. Theilen was the go to guy for Cousins all game long and here he converts a 3rd down to continue the drive that ended in KRudolph's TD.
Quarters vs three level flood
Rarely see Quarters coverage from Saleh so this is a changeup.


This is a key moment in the play for Colbert. If the #2WR (Thielen 19) goes vertical, then Colbert will match him. If Thielen does not go vertical, then Colbert is to double team the #1WR (red arrow).


As Thielen (19) bends his bench route, Colbert makes the determination that Thielen is not going vertical, moves off Thielen, and double teams the #1. KWilliams is distracted by the drag route from Diggs so he does not gain depth. This allows Thielen to be unaccounted for. Thielen is kind of in no man's land so I can see why Colbert let him go. If Colbert doesn't double the Go route up the sideline, then Spoon is on his own with no inside help in case that WR runs a Post.


+34

When I watched this I felt like Williams got caught watching the crosser expecting him to continue his route and was getting ready to jump on the crosser. Instead, the receiver cut it off over the middle. That's a play where the opposing team out-schemed us on this one. It happens to all defenses. Those OC's are getting paid too.

Yeah, Cousins had two wide open there with Williams caught in no-man's land. I remember the commentator getting on him for what he was even looking at but it was that wide open crosser in the middle of the field. Pick your poison. I'm not even sure how this should have been defended.

Huge play in this game.
Warner should have stayed with Diggs. You can see that Sherman had the guy running into the flat. Warner stays with Diggs now Williams can follow Thielan. I think Williams was also caught in a spot where he didnt know who to stay with since Warner followed the guy into the flat

This is two plays after the Pettis catch and run. If the safety continues to play shallow, then no way he can help with either of the slot verticals.


The safety is too shallow to help. Kittle has two steps on Harrison Smith.


QB hit as he threw. I have a feeling Jimmy and George will get it right at some point this season.

Originally posted by kaynj:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:
This is the biggest gain for MIN on the day. Theilen was the go to guy for Cousins all game long and here he converts a 3rd down to continue the drive that ended in KRudolph's TD.
Quarters vs three level flood
Rarely see Quarters coverage from Saleh so this is a changeup.


This is a key moment in the play for Colbert. If the #2WR (Thielen 19) goes vertical, then Colbert will match him. If Thielen does not go vertical, then Colbert is to double team the #1WR (red arrow).


As Thielen (19) bends his bench route, Colbert makes the determination that Thielen is not going vertical, moves off Thielen, and double teams the #1. KWilliams is distracted by the drag route from Diggs so he does not gain depth. This allows Thielen to be unaccounted for. Thielen is kind of in no man's land so I can see why Colbert let him go. If Colbert doesn't double the Go route up the sideline, then Spoon is on his own with no inside help in case that WR runs a Post.

+34

When I watched this I felt like Williams got caught watching the crosser expecting him to continue his route and was getting ready to jump on the crosser. Instead, the receiver cut it off over the middle. That's a play where the opposing team out-schemed us on this one. It happens to all defenses. Those OC's are getting paid too.

Yeah, Cousins had two wide open there with Williams caught in no-man's land. I remember the commentator getting on him for what he was even looking at but it was that wide open crosser in the middle of the field. Pick your poison. I'm not even sure how this should have been defended.

Huge play in this game.
Warner should have stayed with Diggs. You can see that Sherman had the guy running into the flat. Warner stays with Diggs now Williams can follow Thielan. I think Williams was also caught in a spot where he didnt know who to stay with since Warner followed the guy into the flat

KWilliams put in a tough spot for sure. I think the perfect way to play this is Colbert matches Thielen and Spoon is able to handle any kind of Post route from #1. This puts big pressure on Spoon though. It's a good play by the offense. The depth Thielen ran his route makes it iffy on whether Colbert considers Thielen "vertical".
Diggs put his arms out to draw more attention to himself. It's 3rd & 5 so KWilliams has to be threatened by Diggs. I don't blame KW for thinking he needs to stay with Diggs. I also don't blame Colbert for helping Spoon although I don't know who that WR is. Probably Treadwell.

Bourne said he ran the wrong route on the pick 6. So which route was he supposed to run? This is the Pettis 39 yard catch and run:


This is the pick 6. Same 12-15 yard Out from Pettis. This time, instead of Garcon, it's Bourne at #1.


Unblocked rusher so Jimmy has to throw.


Ball location suggests he expected Bourne to break inside, not curl his route. Maybe this route combo should have been ran similar to the Pettis catch and run.

I think the missed Garcon TD is on Jimmy. It did looked like he waited a tad too long to throw the ball. It should be right when Garcon turned his head around, which would be between the hash and numbers, but he didn't get it until he was outside the numbers. The defender trailing Garcon had his back turned. He wouldn't have seen the ball to make a play on it had it been thrown.

A bit disappointed in Bourne. I would think a sure way to go into Kyle's doghouse is to run the wrong route. Especially for a second year guy.

Blooper or highlight?

Originally posted by thl408:
Blooper or highlight?

Ugh, Reuben shoots that window for TFL.

Good stuff as always, jd and thl. Just caught up on the entire thread.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think the missed Garcon TD is on Jimmy. It did looked like he waited a tad too long to throw the ball. It should be right when Garcon turned his head around, which would be between the hash and numbers, but he didn't get it until he was outside the numbers. The defender trailing Garcon had his back turned. He wouldn't have seen the ball to make a play on it had it been thrown.

He took 3 steps and a hitch. So no hitch? The defender threatening Garcon isthe CB lined up over Breida, watching the play as he bails. Maybe I'm overestimating that CB's range.
Yeah I think if he doesn't hitch the pass has a better chance. Don't know what the play requires. The announcer was only speculating that the convo between Kyle and Jimmy was about that.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

I think the missed Garcon TD is on Jimmy. It did looked like he waited a tad too long to throw the ball. It should be right when Garcon turned his head around, which would be between the hash and numbers, but he didn't get it until he was outside the numbers. The defender trailing Garcon had his back turned. He wouldn't have seen the ball to make a play on it had it been thrown.

He took 3 steps and a hitch. So no hitch? The defender threatening Garcon isthe CB lined up over Breida, watching the play as he bails. Maybe I'm overestimating that CB's range.
Yeah I think if he doesn't hitch the pass has a better chance. Don't know what the play requires. The announcer was only speculating that the convo between Kyle and Jimmy was about that.

Garcon should've gotten the ball at the first 'i' of the 'Vikings' in the endzone and just as he got to the 'V'. I don't think the Breida CB could've made the play on the ball if thrown in that area.

That really doesn't look like a hitch to me. Looks like a lazy step up to throw from Jimmy. Any who, it looks like the timing between the 2 guys was off. Like Kaep had thrown the ball

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

I think the missed Garcon TD is on Jimmy. It did looked like he waited a tad too long to throw the ball. It should be right when Garcon turned his head around, which would be between the hash and numbers, but he didn't get it until he was outside the numbers. The defender trailing Garcon had his back turned. He wouldn't have seen the ball to make a play on it had it been thrown.

He took 3 steps and a hitch. So no hitch? The defender threatening Garcon isthe CB lined up over Breida, watching the play as he bails. Maybe I'm overestimating that CB's range.
Yeah I think if he doesn't hitch the pass has a better chance. Don't know what the play requires. The announcer was only speculating that the convo between Kyle and Jimmy was about that.

Garcon should've gotten the ball at the first 'i' of the 'Vikings' in the endzone and just as he got to the 'V'. I don't think the Breida CB could've made the play on the ball if thrown in that area.

That really doesn't look like a hitch to me. Looks like a lazy step up to throw from Jimmy. Any who, it looks like the timing between the 2 guys was off. Like Kaep had thrown the ball

Don't you put that on us!

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think the missed Garcon TD is on Jimmy. It did looked like he waited a tad too long to throw the ball. It should be right when Garcon turned his head around, which would be between the hash and numbers, but he didn't get it until he was outside the numbers. The defender trailing Garcon had his back turned. He wouldn't have seen the ball to make a play on it had it been thrown.

He took 3 steps and a hitch. So no hitch? The defender threatening Garcon isthe CB lined up over Breida, watching the play as he bails. Maybe I'm overestimating that CB's range.
Yeah I think if he doesn't hitch the pass has a better chance. Don't know what the play requires. The announcer was only speculating that the convo between Kyle and Jimmy was about that.

Garcon should've gotten the ball at the first 'i' of the 'Vikings' in the endzone and just as he got to the 'V'. I don't think the Breida CB could've made the play on the ball if thrown in that area.

That really doesn't look like a hitch to me. Looks like a lazy step up to throw from Jimmy. Any who, it looks like the timing between the 2 guys was off. Like Kaep had thrown the ball

Am I the only one who thinks that is a bust by Breida? Seems a little tight to run a flood concept, you allow the CB to play both. I would imagine they would have Breida on a hitch/stop which we have seen with that Scissor concept last year, or it could be a Snag concept with Breida on the slant/hook, or maybe it was a flood and Breida needed to continue across the back of the end zone. Thought it was weird watching it live, puzzling me still.