Coaching Staff Changes

Here's a good example. Ignore the end result because that's simply a byproduct of what happened at the line of scrimmage. Ahkello uses a "kick step" technique with a bunch of false steps(already FAIL), no hands(another FAIL) and almost immediately off the snap opens the gate(doesn't stay square and patient, another FAIL) to run with Diggs, giving Diggs an easy, uninhibited release. He shot himself in the foot and eliminates his chance to use the boundary as help. It's already over. The problem here isn't looking back at the end of the play, the problem is everything that transpired at the line of scrimmage. That's three f**king fails that even I can see(and I never played CB).

This is what it's supposed to look like. Notice how patient and square Sherman is at the LOS. He doesn't open his hips up early or try to run with WRs. He uses his hands, stays hip-to-hip and squeezes WRs towards his help(the boundary). Sherman wins at the LOS, and as a result, he's IN PHASE and on top of the WR, which allows him to control the WR's body while looking back for the ball.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Here's a good example. Ignore the end result because that's simply a byproduct of what happened at the line of scrimmage. Ahkello uses a "kick step" technique with a bunch of false steps(already FAIL), no hands(another FAIL) and almost immediately off the snap opens the gate(doesn't stay square and patient, another FAIL) to run with Diggs, giving Diggs an easy, uninhibited release. He shot himself in the foot and eliminates his chance to use the boundary as help. It's already over. The problem here isn't looking back at the end of the play, the problem is everything that transpired at the line of scrimmage. That's three f**king fails that even I can see(and I never played CB).

Originally posted by Heroism:

This is what it's supposed to look like. Notice how patient and square Sherman is at the LOS. He doesn't open his hips up early or try to run with WRs. He uses his hands, stays hip-to-hip and squeezes WRs towards his help(the boundary). Sherman wins at the LOS, and as a result, he's IN PHASE and on top of the WR, which allows him to control the WR's body while looking back for the ball.

Great analysis, Hero. It would interesting to see some clips of Witherspoon in the couple of games before he got hurt. He "seemed" to be playing better.

Originally posted by Heroism:
See, that's where you guys are wrong. That's the not the problem; that's the result of the problem. The problem begins at or near the line of scrimmage. If the cornerbacks were playing with proper technique and playing within the scheme, they would never be in the disadvantageous position they end up in.

In football lingo, it's called out-of-phase and our DBs spend a lot of time there. When a DB is out-of-phase, it's ubiquitously taught(Bill Belichick, Vic Fangio, Nick Saban, etc all teach this) to play the eyes and hands. The problem isn't that in and of itself, it's what the cornerbacks are doing at the beginning of the play to end up there.

so the moral of this story is the coaches we have are not good teachers. but they are being retained. ok. maybe one day i will understand but its not today... now if you are on the side of the fence where you say.. no the coaches are fine. we need better players. then boo on lynch and kyle and the dc for getting those players. injuries can not be blamed here in my opinion. most were playing terrible before they got shelved. and foster was a non factor even when he played

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Great analysis, Hero. It would interesting to see some clips of Witherspoon in the couple of games before he got hurt. He "seemed" to be playing better.

Hero is the man.

And the bigger issue I see is that it doesn't matter if it's a CB (outside/inside), S, LB, hell, even a DL dropping in coverage, they are all constantly out of phase and in trail which is probably why Hero suggested a Hafley parting.

If they don't get timely help over the top, it's over. And it's usually over.

Originally posted by cciowa:
so the moral of this story is the coaches we have are not good teachers. but they are being retained. ok. maybe one day i will understand but its not today... now if you are on the side of the fence where you say.. no the coaches are fine. we need better players. then boo on lynch and kyle and the dc for getting those players. injuries can not be blamed here in my opinion. most were playing terrible before they got shelved. and foster was a non factor even when he played

I think, in this particular case, Ahkello just flat out stinks. Dude has a ton of potential because of his athleticism and traits, but he has poor technique and bad instincts/awareness, IMO. Not to mention that he has no contact courage. The guy literally pretends to be blocked at times to avoid having to stick his nose in on a tackle.

I think Hafley stinks, too lol.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Kyle lied.

Expect SF QB coach Rich Scangarello to get some offensive coordinator interviews this offseason. And depending on where he ends up, a Nick Mullens trade could make a lot of sense. 49ers could be in the market for a new QBs coach in January

— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) December 31, 2018

What if John Elway calls and will do anything to get Nick? Yes, he even would consider von miller if it took that. Any thots on that scenario?

If we don't get the OL talent taken care of, and FINALLY, get two good starting OGs, and now, unfortunately either get RIchburg healthy or get another Center, then sure, i would listen. But if kyle stays on the same track as he has all season, with getting the best FR QB out there and then not protecting him, we not only need to keep Mullie, but we need yet another equally talented QB.

Sure would be one helluva lot easier to protect our Franchise guy than to have to FA and draft OG, C, and OG, plus come up with a Replacement for Joe in a yr. Thing is kyle:

a) doesn't see this. Or

b) doesn't care.

I have a hard time believing he doesnt care. So why on earth doesn't he see it?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
What if John Elway calls and will do anything to get Nick? Yes, he even would consider von miller if it took that. Any thots on that scenario?

If we don't get the OL talent taken care of, and FINALLY, get two good starting OGs, and now, unfortunately either get RIchburg healthy or get another Center, then sure, i would listen. But if kyle stays on the same track as he has all season, with getting the best FR QB out there and then not protecting him, we not only need to keep Mullie, but we need yet another equally talented QB.

Sure would be one helluva lot easier to protect our Franchise guy than to have to FA and draft OG, C, and OG, plus come up with a Replacement for Joe in a yr. Thing is kyle:

a) doesn't see this. Or

b) doesn't care.

I have a hard time believing he doesnt care. So why on earth doesn't he see it?

Despite the draft capital we could receive, I'd hate to trade BDN. No clue what Jimmy G is going to be after injury, and currently don't ever want to see Beathard on the field in a niners Uniform again.

Originally posted by Debryune:
Despite the draft capital we could receive, I'd hate to trade BDN. No clue what Jimmy G is going to be after injury, and currently don't ever want to see Beathard on the field in a niners Uniform again.

got to agree with this

May be a good thing keeping the guys we have if KS believes that they all can get better over time.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Kyle should promote him to OC and start concentrating more on the defense. Lol

THIS!

Given the uncertainty we've had with QBs on this team, revolving door, you're willing to let a top assistant go after two losing seasons?

We keep Saleh and might let Rich go? Am I the only one who thinks this is a huge mistake?

No, but it is not much different than some of the other odd decisions kyle has made,, or discussed in interviews. Thinking our OGs that we had on board were good enough at the start of this past season were good enough, and that we only needed really good talent at C and OTs, proved to be costly. OGs initially allowed our QBs to be mauled, and indirectly led to JG's ACL tear during a game we had already lost but he tried for a few more meaningless yards and took out his own ACL. At that time, both OGs were just swinging doors. And Gilliam? Total waste of money for a guy they never should have signed. Our OGs flat out failed us and continued to do so until Laken got going mid to 3/4 thru season, and Person started at RG and later started to produce. But all 3 QBs got shellacked with our weak attempts at OG, and kyle was dead wrong implying we dont' need to pay much for Guards. I wonder if he has since changed his mind.

Looking at salaries of OGs and OTs, it appears they are headed or have ended up pretty darn close to one another. In other words, OGs are damn important. As bad as we need two ERs, 3 DBs, 2 LBs, we also need 2 OGs and a new OT. Sure we need a #1 WR, but not until our OL is fixed. And so far, it isn't.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
the fact that shanahahan already committed to no changes in the staff, just shows how hard headed he is. It'll be his undoing.

The team went from one of the worst teams defensively to middle of the pack. There's no logical reason to fire Saleh. We need continuity and to see what he can do with a decent pass rusher and a healthy D.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle lied.

Expect SF QB coach Rich Scangarello to get some offensive coordinator interviews this offseason. And depending on where he ends up, a Nick Mullens trade could make a lot of sense. 49ers could be in the market for a new QBs coach in January

— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) December 31, 2018

If I were Lynch I'd place a very, VERY high price for Mullens. I trade C. J. But hands off Mullens.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle lied.

Expect SF QB coach Rich Scangarello to get some offensive coordinator interviews this offseason. And depending on where he ends up, a Nick Mullens trade could make a lot of sense. 49ers could be in the market for a new QBs coach in January

— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) December 31, 2018

If I were Lynch I'd place a very, VERY high price for Mullens. I trade C. J. But hands off Mullens.

nothing lower than a 5th rounder.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle lied.

Expect SF QB coach Rich Scangarello to get some offensive coordinator interviews this offseason. And depending on where he ends up, a Nick Mullens trade could make a lot of sense. 49ers could be in the market for a new QBs coach in January

— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) December 31, 2018

If I were Lynch I'd place a very, VERY high price for Mullens. I trade C. J. But hands off Mullens.

nothing lower than a 5th rounder.

Hell no I said a high price. Nothing less than a 2nd, or a very high 3rd.