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Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
He's gonna make both these soft cotton candy ass b***hes cry


Yikes. Solly lost his sister by suicide this year my dude. Still played the whole season, soft is definitely a word that doesn't apply to him. Arik on the other hand had a pretty decent year playing every game.
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Originally posted by okdkid:
I will be very surprised if they don't bring back Armstead now.

I have to believe that firing one DL coach and bringing in a (supposed) improvement has a lot to do with getting the most out of this guy before he's a true UFA.

He's already a top (elite?) run defender. That's absolutely worth what is effectively a one year deal. Now they'll see what the new coach can bring out of him as a pass rusher.

I believe this to be true...he'll try to get everything he can out of AA and Solly (might be more potential than we think).

Therefore to drafting QW...
Originally posted by Jcool:

basically kyle be like, have you seen our s**tty dline?
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.



Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Exactly. I can't wait for people to get latched on to two to three players this off-season and then lose it when we don't sign them.
Earl Thomas

No doubt. Soooo many fans are on that train along with K.J. Wright. Brandon Graham. Let's see how the market it.

Fingers crossed!
Free agents are soooo overrated.

LOL...sometimes it is true. Sometimes, not so much.

We gonna "draft our way" outa this mess
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Exactly. I can't wait for people to get latched on to two to three players this off-season and then lose it when we don't sign them.
Earl Thomas

No doubt. Soooo many fans are on that train along with K.J. Wright. Brandon Graham. Let's see how the market it.

Fingers crossed!
Free agents are soooo overrated.

LOL...sometimes it is true. Sometimes, not so much.

We gonna "draft our way" outa this mess
That's usually the best way, here's hoping

I'm not sure how effective free agency is?
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Why couldn't Saleh just tell Zgonina to play Solly more? Zgonina is the decider on all things related to snapcount? No way.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Why couldn't Saleh just tell Zgonina to play Solly more? Zgonina is the decider on all things related to snapcount? No way.
I would think you leave certain decisions to your position coaches. If not then why have them and how would they ever elevate in responsibility.
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Why couldn't Saleh just tell Zgonina to play Solly more? Zgonina is the decider on all things related to snapcount? No way.
I would think you leave certain decisions to your position coaches. If not then why have them and how would they ever elevate in responsibility.

Position coaches teach their position. I would hope that the DC has the final say in who plays, and how much they play. And if the DC sees something that needs to change, for example more snaps for Solly, that the DC has the authority to make it happen. Why have position coaches? To teach technique and teach how to execute.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Why couldn't Saleh just tell Zgonina to play Solly more? Zgonina is the decider on all things related to snapcount? No way.

I think they needed to blame someone who isn't with the organization anymore.
It only makes sense.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
[Barrows] Zgonina was not a big fan of Thomas, which may explain Thomas' sporadic snap numbers at the beginning of the season and start to explain why Zgonina is no longer on the payroll.
Pretty dumb to be given a #3 pick by your boss and not try to play him.

Maybe Thomas' practices were no good. But, maybe Zgonina expected all the guys to play like he did. But yeah, in the end it's his job to realize that #3 pick's potential.
Yeah, whatever it is it's pretty dumb to not play the guy. If your boss gives you a #3 pick to work with you play that puppy to the ground and if the player doesn't improve or keeps showing bad production then you have showed your boss they made a mistake but the worst thing to do is not play him.
Why couldn't Saleh just tell Zgonina to play Solly more? Zgonina is the decider on all things related to snapcount? No way.
I would think you leave certain decisions to your position coaches. If not then why have them and how would they ever elevate in responsibility.

Position coaches teach their position. I would hope that the DC has the final say in who plays, and how much they play. And if the DC sees something that needs to change, for example more snaps for Solly, that the DC has the authority to make it happen. Why have position coaches? To teach technique and teach how to execute.
Well to me you have guys that teach their positions and are good at it. Since they are good and earn the defensive coordinator's or head man's confidence then when it's their time they promote to DC or OC etc.
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