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Niners hire Kris Kocurek as DL coach
Jan 16, 2019 at 8:40 PM
- John_Candy
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Bobby Turner decides on running backs snaps. I imagine Turner is constantly talking to his backs, seeing if they are hurting or fatigued. Saleh may have had that kind of arrangement with Z, which would have allowed Saleh to focus on play calling and adjustments. I agree that Saleh would have the power to overrule Z at any time.
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:14 AM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by John_Candy:
Bobby Turner decides on running backs snaps. I imagine Turner is constantly talking to his backs, seeing if they are hurting or fatigued. Saleh may have had that kind of arrangement with Z, which would have allowed Saleh to focus on play calling and adjustments. I agree that Saleh would have the power to overrule Z at any time.
if that's true, than thank God for Z putting Blair in much more!
Jan 17, 2019 at 12:55 PM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:May be that is why he is gone because he wasn't good enough to be trusted with such responsibility.
Apparently Shanahan views Kocurek as an elite DL coach, and fired Zgonina just because he had the chance to hire a top tier guy. Not necessarily anything Zgonina did wrong.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:06 PM
- okdkid
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I really don't see any way the Niners don't end up with Ziggy unless somebody does something stupid with a contract.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:08 PM
- 9erguy
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Originally posted by okdkid:
I really don't see any way the Niners don't end up with Ziggy unless somebody does something stupid with a contract.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:11 PM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by okdkid:
I really don't see any way the Niners don't end up with Ziggy unless somebody does something stupid with a contract.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
Yes he is. That's why he'll be a FA.
And after franchise tags -- he'll be like a top 2 option.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:17 PM
- Niner4ever
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Originally posted by Niners99:Maybe incompetence is wrong
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
May be that is why he is gone because he wasn't good enough to be trusted with such responsibility.
Apparently Shanahan views Kocurek as an elite DL coach, and fired Zgonina just because he had the chance to hire a top tier guy. Not necessarily anything Zgonina did wrong.
[ Edited by Niner4ever on Jan 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM ]
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM
- 9erguy
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by okdkid:
I really don't see any way the Niners don't end up with Ziggy unless somebody does something stupid with a contract.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
Yes he is. That's why he'll be a FA.
And after franchise tags -- he'll be like a top 2 option.
True, him or Graham would be solid.
Jan 17, 2019 at 3:10 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by okdkid:
I really don't see any way the Niners don't end up with Ziggy unless somebody does something stupid with a contract.
Even for lesser money -- have to imagine Ziggy would have the best chance to resurrect his value on the Niners.
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
Yes he is. That's why he'll be a FA.
And after franchise tags -- he'll be like a top 2 option.
True, him or Graham would be solid.
With the Eagles cap problem, Graham is looking like a more available, less expensive and better choice.
Jan 17, 2019 at 3:21 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by 9erguy:
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
He's more like 40 going on 48. He got that Greg Oden syndrome going on.
Jan 17, 2019 at 3:38 PM
- zonkers
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
He's more like 40 going on 48. He got that Greg Oden syndrome going on.
The LDS church must've brought him to America via the Dominican.
Jan 17, 2019 at 4:41 PM
- FL9er
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I wouldn't offer that dude anything more than a 1 yr deal, and that might be pushing it.
Jan 17, 2019 at 4:43 PM
- philosoraptor
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Originally posted by FL9er:
I wouldn't offer that dude anything more than a 1 yr deal, and that might be pushing it.
Someone will get desperate and offer him more.
Jan 17, 2019 at 7:21 PM
- LVJay
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Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Isn't Ziggy 29 going on 40 though? Dude looks old and body breaks down constantly.
Won't hate if we get him, will take all the pass rushers we can get.
He's more like 40 going on 48. He got that Greg Oden syndrome going on.
The LDS church must've brought him to America via the Dominican.
Patricia going with young stud, Eli Harold and pushing out the old softee...49ers will feel sorry and retrieve....
Jan 18, 2019 at 6:03 AM
- NYniner85
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So listening to a podcast with Barrows and he said the old DL coach ( I can't remember his name or spelling) wasn't a huge fan of Thomas, hence him not getting snaps inside until Kyle put his foot down. Earl Mitchell was his boy lol gross.
He also stated they might change defensive philosophies a little more geared to stopping the pass (duh) compared to priority #1, which was defending the run.
He also stated they might change defensive philosophies a little more geared to stopping the pass (duh) compared to priority #1, which was defending the run.