Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by elguapo:
This. People forget he was only behind Kupp in YPG WITH WAY LESS RECEPTIONS AND TARGETS before we needed him at rb. That's also NOT considering he missed almost 2-3 games of time due to injury and limited snaps WITH a worse QB in Jimmy G throwing to him. All of the top wrs have WAY better qbs throwing them the ball. If Deebo switched teams with say Kupp, he would of shattered some records and been the offensive MVP imo.

Deebo wants the ball either way he can get it (maybe less up the middle) but he wants the contract to reflect it like you said.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

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I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

If you're choosing to ignore my context that's on you 🤷🤷🤷.

I clearly said he's the best offensive weapon in the league…. Twice in the last 3-4 posts. I also said to pay the man

it seems you're choosing to argue first, reason second. Typical zone.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This. People forget he was only behind Kupp in YPG WITH WAY LESS RECEPTIONS AND TARGETS before we needed him at rb. That's also NOT considering he missed almost 2-3 games of time due to injury and limited snaps WITH a worse QB in Jimmy G throwing to him. All of the top wrs have WAY better qbs throwing them the ball. If Deebo switched teams with say Kupp, he would of shattered some records and been the offensive MVP imo.

Deebo wants the ball either way he can get it (maybe less up the middle) but he wants the contract to reflect it like you said.

Not for nothing, it also doesn't consider Kyle scheming wide open.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

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I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

To be fair, Ramsey attributed the high rank to Deebo's running ability and not necessarily from a pure receiving standpoint.

"And then Deebo, the way he's doing it all over the field with running back, he's definitely got to be in there."

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This. People forget he was only behind Kupp in YPG WITH WAY LESS RECEPTIONS AND TARGETS before we needed him at rb. That's also NOT considering he missed almost 2-3 games of time due to injury and limited snaps WITH a worse QB in Jimmy G throwing to him. All of the top wrs have WAY better qbs throwing them the ball. If Deebo switched teams with say Kupp, he would of shattered some records and been the offensive MVP imo.

Deebo wants the ball either way he can get it (maybe less up the middle) but he wants the contract to reflect it like you said.

Not for nothing, it also doesn't consider Kyle scheming wide open.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Why does it f**king matter how the yards are accrued. This is twice you've insulted the zone and been wrong. McGlinchey didn't trip and Deebo is elite. Maybe try soccer as your sport of fandom

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
What is a pure receiver?

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Why does it f**king matter how the yards are accrued. This is twice you've insulted the zone and been wrong. McGlinchey didn't trip and Deebo is elite. Maybe try soccer as your sport of fandom

Why does it matter that I have an opinion that differs from yours? In your world you can tell someone "don't care don't care don't care" anout their opinion (that wasn't even responding to you?and they don't get to respond?

seems reasonable. I wish you well

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
What is a pure receiver?

Oh man we are really dragging the bottom today, huh? 🤣🤣🤣. Enjoy your evening

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

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Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

To be fair, Ramsey attributed the high rank to Deebo's running ability and not necessarily from a pure receiving standpoint.

"And then Deebo, the way he's doing it all over the field with running back, he's definitely got to be in there."

What is a pure receiver?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
If you remove Bill Walshes west coast scheme Jerry Rice was just a good receiver.