Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
If you remove Bill Walshes west coast scheme Jerry Rice was just a good receiver.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

To be fair, Ramsey attributed the high rank to Deebo's running ability and not necessarily from a pure receiving standpoint.

"And then Deebo, the way he's doing it all over the field with running back, he's definitely got to be in there."

What is a pure receiver?

When ranking a WR, you generally look at hands, route running, ability to separate from the DB. For example, Deebo was tied for second most drops in the league, which goes to his hands. As for separation, lots of his catches were short designed plays to him.

While Deebo is no slouch in these areas, his bread and butter is breaking tackles to get YAC and his RB skills.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
If you remove Bill Walshes west coast scheme Jerry Rice was just a good receiver.

What is this blasphemy?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Right, screw elite speed, no one can take Deebo down 1 on 1, when he gets the ball, he's a wrecking ball. You don't need to be 6'0+ to be an elite WR either.

I appreciate your opinion. I just disagree that he's a top ten receiver. I don't think he's a guy that demands a double team like an elite receiver would.

I don't think we all have to agree on this. I think we should pay him whatever is reasonable. I think his value would be lessened if he doesn't want to run the ball as much, and I think he'll be more prone to injury if he does run the ball as much 🤷🤷.

I think $22-25 mill is about right, but would hate to over-guarantee due to injury concerns

Here's what Ramsey specifically said:

My three No. 1s are probably Davante, Tyreek, and Deebo. Them three for sure. They changed the game and the offenses are structured around them. Tyreek is put in multiple positions where he gets the ball, and the same with Davante. And not only that, when they do get the top dog, they can win those battles.

What do you know that Jalen Ramsey doesn't?

To be fair, Ramsey attributed the high rank to Deebo's running ability and not necessarily from a pure receiving standpoint.

"And then Deebo, the way he's doing it all over the field with running back, he's definitely got to be in there."

What is a pure receiver?

When ranking a WR, you generally look at hands, route running, ability to separate from the DB. For example, Deebo was tied for second most drops in the league, which goes to his hands. As for separation, lots of his catches were short designed plays to him.

While Deebo is no slouch in these areas, his bread and butter is breaking tackles to get YAC and his RB skills.

Isn't making plays with the ball in his hands an elite trait. If he was catching a bunch of short passes then his 18.2 ypc is crazy. His hands need work. I distinctly remember a swag drop where he had his gloves Un strapped and the strap interfered. I do put more the blame or reasoning on a QB that has a limited skill set which in turn limited what Deebo could do.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Receivers on average get the ball in their hands like 8 times a game. Give me the guy who's gonna run like a Chalino Sanchez performed his last concert.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Receivers on average get the ball in their hands like 8 times a game. Give me the guy who's gonna run like a Chalino Sanchez performed his last concert.

Had no Idea who that was until now, thanks to Google.

Anyways, back to Deebo. You think he'll be extended before the season begins or nah?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Receivers on average get the ball in their hands like 8 times a game. Give me the guy who's gonna run like a Chalino Sanchez performed his last concert.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Receivers on average get the ball in their hands like 8 times a game. Give me the guy who's gonna run like a Chalino Sanchez performed his last concert.

i don't think he ran as he's not with us anymore

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
watch him sign an extension and the first play of the season kyle calls a run play for him

Originally posted by TownNiner:
Kyle said on the Tim K podcast that he is very confident a deal will be done soon, Lynch and Paraag been in discussion with Deebo for the last few weeks.Kyle not worried at all and knows he'll be signed and he"ll get paid.