Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Deebo only has to worry about Cali taxes for 8 or 9 of his pay checks.

Yeah but this year we getting home field advantage throughout the playoffs so that'll be 13 (including preseason and at Rams) this season.

That SB bonus check will make up for it

That $24.035M signing bonus, and $9.215M option bonus say he's happy, and as for playoffs, the contracts signed don't count in playoffs, they get paid differently, just doesn't count against the cap, so he plays a max of what 10 games in CA every 4yrs, 9 every other year(with the new 17 game schedule).

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Deebo only has to worry about Cali taxes for 8 or 9 of his pay checks.

Yeah but this year we getting home field advantage throughout the playoffs so that'll be 13 (including preseason and at Rams) this season.

That SB bonus check will make up for it

That $24.035M signing bonus, and $9.215M option bonus say he's happy, and as for playoffs, the contracts signed don't count in playoffs, they get paid differently, just doesn't count against the cap, so he plays a max of what 10 games in CA every 4yrs, 9 every other year(with the new 17 game schedule).

Tax Brackets: (I believe the tax brackets are for both single and married)

Tax brackets for income earned in 2022

• 37% for incomes over $539,900 ($647,850 for married couples filing jointly)
• 35% for incomes over $215,950 ($431,900 for married couples filing jointly)
• 32% for incomes over $170,050 ($340,100 for married couples filing jointly)
• 24% for incomes over $89,075 ($178,150 for married couples filing jointly)
• 22% for incomes over $41,775 ($83,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 12% for incomes over $10,275 ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 10% for incomes of $10,275 or less ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly

24.035 x .37 = 8.89 million in taxes. OUCH! Hope he can hire a tax planner to avoid some of those taxes paid.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope Deebo spends next off-season working with Aiyuk and Lance.

Aiyuk is another WR the 49ers have that can also run the ball as well as catch it. He's not Deebo, but he'll be just as important this season.

I BELIEVE that he's a better WR than Deevah.... Deevah just a pure awesome gadget...

1400 yards BEFORE he lined up at RB. Then his targets fell off a cliff. If they would've left him at WR and kept the game plan in place he would've had one of the best seasons at wideout in nfl history. I little bit of hyperbole but the point stands. He is a damn good receiver period

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope Deebo spends next off-season working with Aiyuk and Lance.

Aiyuk is another WR the 49ers have that can also run the ball as well as catch it. He's not Deebo, but he'll be just as important this season.

I BELIEVE that he's a better WR than Deevah.... Deevah just a pure awesome gadget...

1400 yards BEFORE he lined up at RB. Then his targets fell off a cliff. If they would've left him at WR and kept the game plan in place he would've had one of the best seasons at wideout in nfl history. I little bit of hyperbole but the point stands. He is a damn good receiver period

Yep, don't get this he's not a good WR, he is, he was leading the NFL before we needed him to play RB, and I agree Aiyuk is good, gonna be another special WR, but Deebo is WR1 IMO, but this offense doesn't need a prototypical #1 WR.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Deebo only has to worry about Cali taxes for 8 or 9 of his pay checks.

Yeah but this year we getting home field advantage throughout the playoffs so that'll be 13 (including preseason and at Rams) this season.

That SB bonus check will make up for it

That $24.035M signing bonus, and $9.215M option bonus say he's happy, and as for playoffs, the contracts signed don't count in playoffs, they get paid differently, just doesn't count against the cap, so he plays a max of what 10 games in CA every 4yrs, 9 every other year(with the new 17 game schedule).

Tax Brackets: (I believe the tax brackets are for both single and married)

Tax brackets for income earned in 2022

• 37% for incomes over $539,900 ($647,850 for married couples filing jointly)
• 35% for incomes over $215,950 ($431,900 for married couples filing jointly)
• 32% for incomes over $170,050 ($340,100 for married couples filing jointly)
• 24% for incomes over $89,075 ($178,150 for married couples filing jointly)
• 22% for incomes over $41,775 ($83,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 12% for incomes over $10,275 ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 10% for incomes of $10,275 or less ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly

24.035 x .37 = 8.89 million in taxes. OUCH! Hope he can hire a tax planner to avoid some of those taxes paid.

Is that for people who live in CA, or for anyone who works in CA even if they live elsewhere, cause Deebo doesn't have to live in CA, he can stay in FL if he wants to during the offseason, live in CA during the season.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Deebo only has to worry about Cali taxes for 8 or 9 of his pay checks.

Yeah but this year we getting home field advantage throughout the playoffs so that'll be 13 (including preseason and at Rams) this season.

That SB bonus check will make up for it

That $24.035M signing bonus, and $9.215M option bonus say he's happy, and as for playoffs, the contracts signed don't count in playoffs, they get paid differently, just doesn't count against the cap, so he plays a max of what 10 games in CA every 4yrs, 9 every other year(with the new 17 game schedule).

Tax Brackets: (I believe the tax brackets are for both single and married)

Tax brackets for income earned in 2022

• 37% for incomes over $539,900 ($647,850 for married couples filing jointly)
• 35% for incomes over $215,950 ($431,900 for married couples filing jointly)
• 32% for incomes over $170,050 ($340,100 for married couples filing jointly)
• 24% for incomes over $89,075 ($178,150 for married couples filing jointly)
• 22% for incomes over $41,775 ($83,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 12% for incomes over $10,275 ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly)
• 10% for incomes of $10,275 or less ($20,550 for married couples filing jointly

24.035 x .37 = 8.89 million in taxes. OUCH! Hope he can hire a tax planner to avoid some of those taxes paid.

Is that for people who live in CA, or for anyone who works in CA even if they live elsewhere, cause Deebo doesn't have to live in CA, he can stay in FL if he wants to during the offseason, live in CA during the season.

I remember years ago the state of NY sued Derek Jeter over him not filing NY state taxes. He argued that NY is just where he played but his actual place of residency was Florida. I think he lost though and they settled on a figure

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The point isn't that you can afford them. That's meaningless. That would be like JL going to Deebo and saying we are gonna pay you $14m annual cuz you can afford all you need on that. That would be a joke.

Point is for the Raiders or Phins he would be clearing so much more (millions more) on an equivalent contract. So we have to pay more to our players to have them receive the same amount of dollars after tax as some other clubs. Hard to pay more than other clubs in a league where salaries are hard capped. I guess every locale has it's pros and cons. Bay Area taxes are a con. Weather is nice maybe that makes up for it

No, he wouldn't be making "millions" more. First off, you still pay federal taxes. That doesn't change. Secondly, in the NFL you are paid weekly and it is based on the state you play in. The the regular season, the maximum amount of games the niners play in CA is 10 but that is once every 4 years. Usually it's 9. So 9/17 games are in CA.

Anyways, beyond the $$ players have to consider where they want their family, things they like to do, if a team is a winner, do they like the staff, etc.

This is from maybe 15 seconds of googling..

The residency rules are straightforward for most states that levy income taxes. If you own or rent a residence and spend more than half the year in a state, you're liable for taxes on all income earned inside and outside the state.

California, for example, has a top marginal income tax rate of 13.3%, which applies to income over $1 million for single taxpayers.

LeBron James, who just signed a two-year extension with the Los Angeles Lakers worth $85 million, will be on the hook for millions in annual state taxes on his salary alone, not to mention his lucrative endorsement deals.

Notice the millions in state taxes..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The point isn't that you can afford them. That's meaningless. That would be like JL going to Deebo and saying we are gonna pay you $14m annual cuz you can afford all you need on that. That would be a joke.

Point is for the Raiders or Phins he would be clearing so much more (millions more) on an equivalent contract. So we have to pay more to our players to have them receive the same amount of dollars after tax as some other clubs. Hard to pay more than other clubs in a league where salaries are hard capped. I guess every locale has it's pros and cons. Bay Area taxes are a con. Weather is nice maybe that makes up for it

No, he wouldn't be making "millions" more. First off, you still pay federal taxes. That doesn't change. Secondly, in the NFL you are paid weekly and it is based on the state you play in. The the regular season, the maximum amount of games the niners play in CA is 10 but that is once every 4 years. Usually it's 9. So 9/17 games are in CA.

Anyways, beyond the $$ players have to consider where they want their family, things they like to do, if a team is a winner, do they like the staff, etc.

This is from maybe 15 seconds of googling..

The residency rules are straightforward for most states that levy income taxes. If you own or rent a residence and spend more than half the year in a state, you're liable for taxes on all income earned inside and outside the state.

California, for example, has a top marginal income tax rate of 13.3%, which applies to income over $1 million for single taxpayers.

LeBron James, who just signed a two-year extension with the Los Angeles Lakers worth $85 million, will be on the hook for millions in annual state taxes on his salary alone, not to mention his lucrative endorsement deals.

Notice the millions in state taxes..

A lot of these guys don't live in the state for 6+ months.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The point isn't that you can afford them. That's meaningless. That would be like JL going to Deebo and saying we are gonna pay you $14m annual cuz you can afford all you need on that. That would be a joke.

Point is for the Raiders or Phins he would be clearing so much more (millions more) on an equivalent contract. So we have to pay more to our players to have them receive the same amount of dollars after tax as some other clubs. Hard to pay more than other clubs in a league where salaries are hard capped. I guess every locale has it's pros and cons. Bay Area taxes are a con. Weather is nice maybe that makes up for it

No, he wouldn't be making "millions" more. First off, you still pay federal taxes. That doesn't change. Secondly, in the NFL you are paid weekly and it is based on the state you play in. The the regular season, the maximum amount of games the niners play in CA is 10 but that is once every 4 years. Usually it's 9. So 9/17 games are in CA.

Anyways, beyond the $$ players have to consider where they want their family, things they like to do, if a team is a winner, do they like the staff, etc.

This is from maybe 15 seconds of googling..

The residency rules are straightforward for most states that levy income taxes. If you own or rent a residence and spend more than half the year in a state, you're liable for taxes on all income earned inside and outside the state.

California, for example, has a top marginal income tax rate of 13.3%, which applies to income over $1 million for single taxpayers.

LeBron James, who just signed a two-year extension with the Los Angeles Lakers worth $85 million, will be on the hook for millions in annual state taxes on his salary alone, not to mention his lucrative endorsement deals.

Notice the millions in state taxes..

A lot of these guys don't live in the state for 6 months.

He is domiciled in CA. His workplace is in CA. Joan from payroll processes payroll in CA. Good luck dodging this tax. How exactly would that work when he submits his tax to the state of CA with a big zero on it and hopes the state doesn't realize who Deebo Samuel is and has no interest in the millions they are entitled to. Good luck on that one.

Interesting comments from AJ Brown on his contract negotiations. He noted that he got a lot of flack for his holdout, and so did Deebo, but in the end, he, Deebo, McLaurin, and Metcalf all got essentially the same contract. His major complaint was that the Titans traded him which made him look like the bad guy while the other three wound up with the same deal but no trade.

IMO, the Titans cut off their nose to spite their face. Brown is an All-Pro level receiver. Will Treylon Burks be as good?

John Lynch showed good judgment in playing it the way he did. Trading Deebo would have been a big mistake.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The point isn't that you can afford them. That's meaningless. That would be like JL going to Deebo and saying we are gonna pay you $14m annual cuz you can afford all you need on that. That would be a joke.

Point is for the Raiders or Phins he would be clearing so much more (millions more) on an equivalent contract. So we have to pay more to our players to have them receive the same amount of dollars after tax as some other clubs. Hard to pay more than other clubs in a league where salaries are hard capped. I guess every locale has it's pros and cons. Bay Area taxes are a con. Weather is nice maybe that makes up for it

No, he wouldn't be making "millions" more. First off, you still pay federal taxes. That doesn't change. Secondly, in the NFL you are paid weekly and it is based on the state you play in. The the regular season, the maximum amount of games the niners play in CA is 10 but that is once every 4 years. Usually it's 9. So 9/17 games are in CA.

Anyways, beyond the $$ players have to consider where they want their family, things they like to do, if a team is a winner, do they like the staff, etc.

This is from maybe 15 seconds of googling..

The residency rules are straightforward for most states that levy income taxes. If you own or rent a residence and spend more than half the year in a state, you're liable for taxes on all income earned inside and outside the state.

California, for example, has a top marginal income tax rate of 13.3%, which applies to income over $1 million for single taxpayers.

LeBron James, who just signed a two-year extension with the Los Angeles Lakers worth $85 million, will be on the hook for millions in annual state taxes on his salary alone, not to mention his lucrative endorsement deals.

Notice the millions in state taxes..

Calif state taxes are brutal.

Not sure if this has been posted yet but a breakdown of Mr. Deebo's new contract

https://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl/breaking-down-deebo-samuels-715m-extension-1567/

Correct details are in.

https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022/08/05/contract-details-for-deebo-samuels-extension-are-officially-in/

Samuel received a $24.035 million signing bonus, plus a $9.215 million option bonus in 2023, while his 2022 base salary, 2023 base salary, & $4.555 million of his 2024 base salary are fully guaranteed, meaning $41 million is guaranteed at signing, plus he has yearly $750,000 per game roster bonuses, & $200,000 workout bonuses starting in 2023.

Also, his 2023 per game roster bonus, 2023 workout bonus, & 2024 workout bonus become fully guaranteed 3 days after Deebo Samuel officially signed his deal, which was this Monday, so they should become fully guaranteed on Thursday, meaning his fully guaranteed money will go up to $42.15 million.

He will also get the remainder of his 2024 base salary fully guaranteed on April 1, 2023, for a total of $58.917 million guaranteed, along with his 2024 per game roster bonus becoming fully guaranteed on April 1, 2023, pushing his guarantees up to $59.667 million.

He also received yearly $650,000 incentives for 380 or more rush yards, plus he can earn $150,000 each season that he scores 3 or more rushing touchdowns, but the incentives max out at $650,000 each season, and these start in 2023.

Below is a breakdown of Samuel's contract, year by year.

2022- $6,876,519 ($965,000 base salary, $4.807 million new prorated, $904,519 old prorated, $50,000 workout bonus, & $150,000 LTBE incentive)

2023- $8.68 million ($1.08 million base salary, $4.807 million signing bonus proration, $1.843 million option bonus proration, $750,000 per game roster bonus, & $200,000 workout bonus)

2024- $28.572 million ($20.972 million base salary, $4.807 million signing bonus proration, $1.843 million option bonus proration, $750,000 per game roster bonus, & $200,000 workout bonus)

2025- $24,200,529 ($16,600,529 base salary, $4.807 million signing bonus proration, $1.843 million option bonus proration, $750,000 per game roster bonus, & $200,000 workout bonus)

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The point isn't that you can afford them. That's meaningless. That would be like JL going to Deebo and saying we are gonna pay you $14m annual cuz you can afford all you need on that. That would be a joke.

Point is for the Raiders or Phins he would be clearing so much more (millions more) on an equivalent contract. So we have to pay more to our players to have them receive the same amount of dollars after tax as some other clubs. Hard to pay more than other clubs in a league where salaries are hard capped. I guess every locale has it's pros and cons. Bay Area taxes are a con. Weather is nice maybe that makes up for it

No, he wouldn't be making "millions" more. First off, you still pay federal taxes. That doesn't change. Secondly, in the NFL you are paid weekly and it is based on the state you play in. The the regular season, the maximum amount of games the niners play in CA is 10 but that is once every 4 years. Usually it's 9. So 9/17 games are in CA.

Anyways, beyond the $$ players have to consider where they want their family, things they like to do, if a team is a winner, do they like the staff, etc.

This is from maybe 15 seconds of googling..

The residency rules are straightforward for most states that levy income taxes. If you own or rent a residence and spend more than half the year in a state, you're liable for taxes on all income earned inside and outside the state.

California, for example, has a top marginal income tax rate of 13.3%, which applies to income over $1 million for single taxpayers.

LeBron James, who just signed a two-year extension with the Los Angeles Lakers worth $85 million, will be on the hook for millions in annual state taxes on his salary alone, not to mention his lucrative endorsement deals.

Notice the millions in state taxes..

Calif state taxes are brutal.

Oh no I only made 20 million this year. Whatever will I do. I'm sorry but, taxes are a part of life. In sports yes you would lose out on money. In regular people life you get paid less in states with lower taxes. I accept and agree with people who want the money to be used more efficiciently. However people who complain about taxes for the sake of it drive me crazy. They build our roads, put fires out, patrol our streets, put their life on the line for our freedom, educate our children and more. Paying taxes IS patriotism. Now to wrap it back around to sports. I do not want players who's only concern is the dollar amount on their contract. Players should fight for their money. They put their bodies on the line every single game. They deserve to be paid but, if that is the only thing you care about then you need to get your priorities straightened out.