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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
What did the television broadcast say? It seemed like an obvious landed on the ball and knocked the wind out of himself type play to us watching the replay on the jumbotron. I dont think anyone in the stadium was concerned he actually hurt himself.
Originally posted by Since07:
Deebo went all out and proved he can be a #1 not just a gadget. He broke 4-5 tackles dead to rights on a single play
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Since07:
Deebo went all out and proved he can be a #1 not just a gadget. He broke 4-5 tackles dead to rights on a single play
hes proven that since 2021. He just exels at YAC and breaking tackles so we always try to scheme him open in space to utilize that. Doesnt mean he cant run routes and beat people deep
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Since07:
Deebo went all out and proved he can be a #1 not just a gadget. He broke 4-5 tackles dead to rights on a single play
hes proven that since 2021. He just exels at YAC and breaking tackles so we always try to scheme him open in space to utilize that. Doesnt mean he cant run routes and beat people deep
MAKING a very good catch does not make ONE a true ONE..
NOT even our own JOHN TAYLOR was a ONE..
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Look I dont want to take anything away from Deebo's performance because he played a very good game. Best in a while. We needed him to step up big for us and he came through in a big way. That being said there is a difference between Deebo running with the ball in his hand Vs. Deebo without the ball in his hands. There is a difference when the play is designed to get him the ball vs. a play that he is a secondary option, just another cog, or a decoy. It might have just been he was tired, as we asked a lot more of him this game. I just don't ever remember watching a game and ever questioning plays like that with Ayiuk. To many times last night I remember thinking we looked slow during pass plays without Aiyuk. And Deebo is clearly not slow. It does feel like on certain pass plays he is playing at different levels of speed. IMO it happened to many times last night for my liking. I dont think it will be as a big of problem though once Aiyuk is back and Deebo can get more rest during the game.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Since07:
Deebo went all out and proved he can be a #1 not just a gadget. He broke 4-5 tackles dead to rights on a single play
hes proven that since 2021. He just exels at YAC and breaking tackles so we always try to scheme him open in space to utilize that. Doesnt mean he cant run routes and beat people deep
MAKING a very good catch does not make ONE a true ONE..
NOT even our own JOHN TAYLOR was a ONE..
We get it, you don't like Deebo, and want to trade him, but spoiler alert, they're not trading him anytime soon.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Look I dont want to take anything away from Deebo's performance because he played a very good game. Best in a while. We needed him to step up big for us and he came through in a big way. That being said there is a difference between Deebo running with the ball in his hand Vs. Deebo without the ball in his hands. There is a difference when the play is designed to get him the ball vs. a play that he is a secondary option, just another cog, or a decoy. It might have just been he was tired, as we asked a lot more of him this game. I just don't ever remember watching a game and ever questioning plays like that with Ayiuk. To many times last night I remember thinking we looked slow during pass plays without Aiyuk. And Deebo is clearly not slow. It does feel like on certain pass plays he is playing at different levels of speed. IMO it happened to many times last night for my liking. I dont think it will be as a big of problem though once Aiyuk is back and Deebo can get more rest during the game.
yupp
Great player, but he is an add on type player...
Such a massive difference in watching CMC in the flats and Deebo in the flats.
It is hard to build a timing based passing offense around Deebo, you will get different levels of engagement from down to down.
The 49ers, and Purdy...really need the FO to find another outstanding rout runner. They need a guy that is where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there.
Everyone loves Deebo, glad we have Deebo....but your observations are legitimate....
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Look I dont want to take anything away from Deebo's performance because he played a very good game. Best in a while. We needed him to step up big for us and he came through in a big way. That being said there is a difference between Deebo running with the ball in his hand Vs. Deebo without the ball in his hands. There is a difference when the play is designed to get him the ball vs. a play that he is a secondary option, just another cog, or a decoy. It might have just been he was tired, as we asked a lot more of him this game. I just don't ever remember watching a game and ever questioning plays like that with Ayiuk. To many times last night I remember thinking we looked slow during pass plays without Aiyuk. And Deebo is clearly not slow. It does feel like on certain pass plays he is playing at different levels of speed. IMO it happened to many times last night for my liking. I dont think it will be as a big of problem though once Aiyuk is back and Deebo can get more rest during the game.
yupp
Great player, but he is an add on type player...
Such a massive difference in watching CMC in the flats and Deebo in the flats.
It is hard to build a timing based passing offense around Deebo, you will get different levels of engagement from down to down.
The 49ers, and Purdy...really need the FO to find another outstanding rout runner. They need a guy that is where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there.
Everyone loves Deebo, glad we have Deebo....but your observations are legitimate....
I agree on finding that outstanding route runner. I essentially want an Aiyuk clone with some speed lol. Im not sure I like the add on title unless you mean the offense can more consistently go through guys like CMC and Aiyuk, then Deebo,Kittle, and Juice supplement what CMC and Aiyuk do (though I do believe Juice can be a consistent and regular target in the passing game).
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Look I dont want to take anything away from Deebo's performance because he played a very good game. Best in a while. We needed him to step up big for us and he came through in a big way. That being said there is a difference between Deebo running with the ball in his hand Vs. Deebo without the ball in his hands. There is a difference when the play is designed to get him the ball vs. a play that he is a secondary option, just another cog, or a decoy. It might have just been he was tired, as we asked a lot more of him this game. I just don't ever remember watching a game and ever questioning plays like that with Ayiuk. To many times last night I remember thinking we looked slow during pass plays without Aiyuk. And Deebo is clearly not slow. It does feel like on certain pass plays he is playing at different levels of speed. IMO it happened to many times last night for my liking. I dont think it will be as a big of problem though once Aiyuk is back and Deebo can get more rest during the game.
yupp
Great player, but he is an add on type player...
Such a massive difference in watching CMC in the flats and Deebo in the flats.
It is hard to build a timing based passing offense around Deebo, you will get different levels of engagement from down to down.
The 49ers, and Purdy...really need the FO to find another outstanding rout runner. They need a guy that is where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there.
Everyone loves Deebo, glad we have Deebo....but your observations are legitimate....
I agree on finding that outstanding route runner. I essentially want an Aiyuk clone with some speed lol. Im not sure I like the add on title unless you mean the offense can more consistently go through guys like CMC and Aiyuk, then Deebo,Kittle, and Juice supplement what CMC and Aiyuk do (though I do believe Juice can be a consistent and regular target in the passing game).
pretty much exactly what I mean.......
Guys need to be where they are suppose to be, when they are suppose to be there. Young QBs need that more than anyone, guys like Montana, Brock, Brady also need it. They don't have the overwhelming arm to throw a pass late and still get it there on time, and if you have to hold the ball because your WR is late or sloppy on the rout...you just wasted their ability to read and react quickly.
Maybe Bell is already the guy we want, but if not I hope they go out and draft a balls to the wall, max effort, CLEAN rout runner. Brock needs that.
Deebo is great, love the guy.... I think it is fun as heck when the team gadgets the ball to him...it is not nearly as clean when the ball goes his way during a conventional passing attack.
Deebo catches 60% of the balls thrown his way (and we know how many of those are screens boosting his catch total)
for reference
CMC catches 80%
BA catches 78.6%
Kittle catches 72%
We really don't want an offense focused on feeding Deebo in a conventional manner.... we need to lock up BA and then secure a second high quality rout runner.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Should Deebo Improve his route running and hands, he'd surely be a top 5 wide receiver In the league.
He's still a beast, though, especially once he has the ball In his hands.
It is interesting listening to JTO. Was that sack on Deebo not hustling, or was it timing as a late leak out?
I counted 2 catchable balls from memory he needed to catch, he tried 1 handing them. One would have been an impressive catch, but uncontested.
Look I dont want to take anything away from Deebo's performance because he played a very good game. Best in a while. We needed him to step up big for us and he came through in a big way. That being said there is a difference between Deebo running with the ball in his hand Vs. Deebo without the ball in his hands. There is a difference when the play is designed to get him the ball vs. a play that he is a secondary option, just another cog, or a decoy. It might have just been he was tired, as we asked a lot more of him this game. I just don't ever remember watching a game and ever questioning plays like that with Ayiuk. To many times last night I remember thinking we looked slow during pass plays without Aiyuk. And Deebo is clearly not slow. It does feel like on certain pass plays he is playing at different levels of speed. IMO it happened to many times last night for my liking. I dont think it will be as a big of problem though once Aiyuk is back and Deebo can get more rest during the game.
yupp
Great player, but he is an add on type player...
Such a massive difference in watching CMC in the flats and Deebo in the flats.
It is hard to build a timing based passing offense around Deebo, you will get different levels of engagement from down to down.
The 49ers, and Purdy...really need the FO to find another outstanding rout runner. They need a guy that is where he is suppose to be...when he is suppose to be there.
Everyone loves Deebo, glad we have Deebo....but your observations are legitimate....
I agree on finding that outstanding route runner. I essentially want an Aiyuk clone with some speed lol. Im not sure I like the add on title unless you mean the offense can more consistently go through guys like CMC and Aiyuk, then Deebo,Kittle, and Juice supplement what CMC and Aiyuk do (though I do believe Juice can be a consistent and regular target in the passing game).
Originally posted by Since07:
Deebo went all out and proved he can be a #1 not just a gadget. He broke 4-5 tackles dead to rights on a single play