Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by krizay:

RUMOR CIRCULATING: The Baltimore #Ravens reached out to the San Francisco #49ers to inquire about the availability of WR Deebo Samuel AND THE #NINERS SAID "NO." pic.twitter.com/ymwWlUGjU5

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) March 13, 2024

We got to stop linking this fugazi account. Everything they've "reported" is b******t the dude running the account is making up. He's definitely laughing at people running with it.

It's an easy rumor. We need cap space, deebo underperformed, and aiyuk is our actual best receiver.

I wonder if he will restructure.

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Using Kittle to try and make a point is not the best idea, he can't feature or throw it to himself. Deebo had nearly 4x the targets with 11. Kittle was targeted 3 times and caught 2 of them.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Using Kittle to try and make a point is not the best idea, he can't feature or throw it to himself. Deebo had nearly 4x the targets with 11. Kittle was targeted 3 times and caught 2 of them.

Did he not get targeted bc he wasn't open? Who knows. Maybe that's not the best argument either.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Using Kittle to try and make a point is not the best idea, he can't feature or throw it to himself. Deebo had nearly 4x the targets with 11. Kittle was targeted 3 times and caught 2 of them.

Did he not get targeted bc he wasn't open? Who knows. Maybe that's not the best argument either.

Was Deebo open on his targets? Like I said, not the best idea

Deebo the man he isn't going anywhere. This crazy talk of him sucking needs to stop. Dude plays hard.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Using Kittle to try and make a point is not the best idea, he can't feature or throw it to himself. Deebo had nearly 4x the targets with 11. Kittle was targeted 3 times and caught 2 of them.

Did he not get targeted bc he wasn't open? Who knows. Maybe that's not the best argument either.

Was Deebo open on his targets? Like I said, not the best idea

I do have to chime in. There is never any doubt to Kittle's hustle. Sometimes with Deebo it looks like a Saturday morning walkthrough.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I am not talking about cap hits. You can't go off of that. Cap hits can vary from year to year. Structure of the contract, actual restructures, void years, etc play a role. Looking at his APY, it's on par with receivers that have 1k yards on their second/third contract.

Armstead had s cap hit of 25 million +, but early in his deal, the number was around 10 million.

The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

He got 1k yards from scrimmage last year. The contract is on par for receivers that get thar kind of yardage. And this is with Deebo being priority number 2 for teams to stop. No he isn't Justin Jefferson, but Jefferson ever been in a position to make a play in a big time moment when it had to be made? Deebo has and it wasnt just in 2021.

How much time do you think defensive coordinators spend game planning for Conley? If a defensive coordinator actually did game plan for him, what did you think his production would be like?

He actually needs to be run less., but I do agree with using him for screens. He works well in space, but Shanahan needs to do more to get the eyeballs off of him.

I've seen Darrelle Revis work Andre Johnson. A top tier corner can do that. It doesn't suddenly mean a guy can't play. Most secondaries cannot do what KCs secondary did and Kyle did Deebo no favors with how he was used (overused). It was an awful gameplan to go right against the strength of KCs defense. That isn't Deebo's fault.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The problem is he played 10x better in the walk year. That's an issue. Look at the SB he got worked all game. You expect a guy taking up 10% of your cap to carry some weight, Conley could have had the SB Deebo did. So we ain't getting our monies worth. He's a RB at WR. He doesn't get open. Or run routes. We got played. Shanny fell in love with the positionless aspect and how hard he can finish plays when he feels like it. I ain't saying he's a bad player, he's just not a #1 WR, that's been exposed. Yet he's paid like one. I say we run the heck out of him, that's when he's at his best, runs and screens.

The Deebo slander is getting annoying.

Yes he didn't play well in the Super Bowl but neither did Kittle. Does he suck too and did we get played? If Deebo was healthy he'd been a 1k receiver last year but yet he can't run routes... Deebo is a different kind of player and doesnt fit the mold of a typical WR so he must suck.

Using Kittle to try and make a point is not the best idea, he can't feature or throw it to himself. Deebo had nearly 4x the targets with 11. Kittle was targeted 3 times and caught 2 of them.

Trash game plan by Kyle. He needs another offensive mind that he respects in the room. I love Deebo, but thought it was horrible usage to go to him 11 times. Juice would've been a better choice. Seriously. Use Jordan Mason as a battering ram for about 10 plays. Throw more to Kittle, CMC, Juice, and Mitchell. Then take smart shots to Aiyuk. It isn't the fault of the player when the coach doesn't put him in a spot to succeed.

Originally posted by GLT49ers:
Deebo the man he isn't going anywhere. This crazy talk of him sucking needs to stop. Dude plays hard.

When the play is for him and the ball is in his hand, yes.

You should see some of the all-22 plays when he's not directly involved though. It was pretty eye opening for me since I thought he seemed like a player that goes all out all the time. Even in the Super Bowl it was like that with lazy plays and blocks.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by krizay:

RUMOR CIRCULATING: The Baltimore #Ravens reached out to the San Francisco #49ers to inquire about the availability of WR Deebo Samuel AND THE #NINERS SAID "NO." pic.twitter.com/ymwWlUGjU5

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) March 13, 2024

We got to stop linking this fugazi account. Everything they've "reported" is b******t the dude running the account is making up. He's definitely laughing at people running with it.

#Ravens GM Eric DeCosta on the Deebo Samuel trade rumor:

"That specific report -- I read The Lorax last week at a local elementary school. I would probably put that report similar to that…

There was never any 'no' (from the 49ers), because there was never any request."

via:… pic.twitter.com/8dNnXbLPYP

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) March 14, 2024

It's because that account just takes s**t from the 1,000 of other accounts and posts a lot of it as his own.

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by GLT49ers:
Deebo the man he isn't going anywhere. This crazy talk of him sucking needs to stop. Dude plays hard.

When the play is for him and the ball is in his hand, yes.

You should see some of the all-22 plays when he's not directly involved though. It was pretty eye opening for me since I thought he seemed like a player that goes all out all the time. Even in the Super Bowl it was like that with lazy plays and blocks.

I'll have to go watch johnnydel thread to see the all-22. He has good stuff

Originally posted by GLT49ers:
I'll have to go watch johnnydel thread to see the all-22. He has good stuff

Yup him and JT O'Sullivan are my go to videos after games. JT specifically calls out Deebo often.

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by GLT49ers:
I'll have to go watch johnnydel thread to see the all-22. He has good stuff

Yup him and JT O'Sullivan are my go to videos after games. JT specifically calls out Deebo often.

Off topic but I noticed chase young giving up on plays and just being lazy